Syrian civil war (30 Viewers)

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ReBeL

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    One of his relatives also was shot.
    The most interesting assassination was that guy in Germany that they went to kill him. When they did not find him, they killed his wife. You know they can't return empty-handed.
     

    Azzurri7

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    The most interesting assassination was that guy in Germany that they went to kill him. When they did not find him, they killed his wife. You know they can't return empty-handed.
    Yeah, it's in this family blood.

    Just like what they used to do with these young Lebanese men during the Syrian occupaiton in the 80's and 90's mostly, they catch you speaking anything bad about their President, Secret Service, Army, you will never ever see the light again. Just like now, we have over 200 Lebanese prisoners/missing in Syria that were kidnapped back in the days, they don't even admit they have a single person of them(My mother's cousin was kidnapped and shot there in Syria alongside some of his friends in the late 80's btw). It's like they're accusing all these parents of having Deja vu/dreaming when they're crying day and night on the streets. Just few days ago they were protesting against our foreign Minister asking him to discuss with the Syrian President about the missing Lebanese there.

    I remember when I was a kid, fucking little kid like 6 or 7 years old before going to school, my mum would prepare for me my lunch break and ask me every single day do not look the Syrian Army in the eyes Rabih you and you sister:sergio:. Imagine!!
     

    RAMI-N

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    And that's why you can't win an argument.

    It's not that I SEE him it's what he's practicing that makes him a dictator.

    If someone sits inside Mr. X house without the owners permission, he's renting or occupying a space from his house? In this case your answer would be that he's renting when there was not a single invoice. Same thing with Assad he became a President after Hafez's death not because he was elected.

    Is it thaaaat hard?
    Your argument is invalid. and you either can win with it.
    He was elected according to the constitution. Period.
    If you want to argue about the constitution, then it's another thing...
     

    Azzurri7

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    Do you realize that you don't bring anything to this topic? How many times have you repeated yourself saying I hate Bashar. It's like your only way of running from the subject.

    YES, I DO HATE HIM. You don't have to be intelligent to figure that out. I have my reasons to hate him and it's obvious too.

    Elected according to the constitution???:lol:

    You know what? I would like to see if you were kidnapped one day for having a different opinion, what type of constitution you would still be talking about. But I guess you don't have the balls to criticize your so called President.

    Feel free not to reply to any of my posts, it's not like you made any difference by adding something to your posts.
     

    RAMI-N

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    All the videos I posted here and you chose to ignore and I added nothing to this topic? :lol2:
    hating someone is something and basing all your arguments on this hate is something else.
    If I repeated myself, it's because your continuous talk of dictatorship and crime and this BS...

    Enjoy the western media site while they last... they share the same view with you... they can add a lot to the topic according to you :D

    I feel sorry for the millions who were out today supporting the president, because they can't see what you see :D
     
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    Fine, you want to know what the Lebanese are doing in the gulf? They're the most successful foreign employees there, from Dubai to Doha to Saudi and Kuwait. You know what the Syrians are working there? I think you already know.
    With all due respect to you Rab and to all Lebanese you are making two very faulty (at least inaccurate) generalization in your quote.

    You have rightly criticized Rami for playing on words and providing unproven statements, well, that's exactly what you have done with your post.
     

    Azzurri7

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    With all due respect to you Rab and to all Lebanese you are making two very faulty (at least inaccurate) generalization in your quote.

    You have rightly criticized Rami for playing on words and providing unproven statements, well, that's exactly what you have done with your post.
    Sorry mate if you took it as generalization, that was not my intention, he made it look like one by jumping from topic to another.

    I wanted to show him that the living standard in Lebanon isn't as bad as the one in Syria and to prove my point I had to mention a quote that was written on the article saying how the Syrian workers do go to Lebanon because they get paid more.

    I apologies if you misunderstood my post, Ghaith.
     

    Fred

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    Rami i have nothing against Bashar. But come on, the guy is a dictator, no two ways about it, his father was a bloody killer that Gedaffi aspires to be like. Whats so different between Libya and Syria's dictatorship? i'd love to know. Whats different about the living standards. We have free education and free health care too, but like Syria both our educational system and our health care system suck balls.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Orient Tv is back on Arabsat. They are confirming that they are being attacked harshly by the regime as they show the opinions of Syrians who oppose the dictator.
     

    RAMI-N

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    With all due respect to you Rab and to all Lebanese you are making two very faulty (at least inaccurate) generalization in your quote.

    You have rightly criticized Rami for playing on words and providing unproven statements, well, that's exactly what you have done with your post.
    Gaith, could you please tell me how I played on words, and what were the unproven statements I gave?!

    Rami i have nothing against Bashar. But come on, the guy is a dictator, no two ways about it, his father was a bloody killer that Gedaffi aspires to be like. Whats so different between Libya and Syria's dictatorship? i'd love to know. Whats different about the living standards. We have free education and free health care too, but like Syria both our educational system and our health care system suck balls.
    Fred, you guys are mixing between him and his dad.
    I didn't say that life standard in Syria was great (as Rab made me sound), all I said that it has improved on different levels, something we haven't witnessed before he took over.
    as much as the free health care sucks (either in Syria or Libya), it's way better than dieing on hospital entrance because fees weren't paid in advance.
    As for the education system, I am quite sure how do you rate it, but speaking for Syria; it's very good...not great but also not bad...

    Anyways, people are entitled to their opinions... But I find it odd, to be expected that I accept peoples opinions but they can't accept mine!
     

    Fred

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    Its not about accepting opinions Rami, if someone came out and said that he thought Gedaffi was a very kind human being. Or if someone thought Hitler was a compassionate and understanding man, people would have a hard time accepting it. Its your opinion and your entitled to it, but with all due respect to you, i find it a very strange opinion to have.
     

    RAMI-N

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    Your examples are 100% true (Although I don't know much about Ghadaffi), but could you tell me about the crimes Bashar committed?
    I never said he's complete or an angel, I just stated how the vast majority of Syrian feel about him and the whole situation...
     
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    ReBeL

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    RAMI¹⁰;2959214 said:
    Your examples are 100% true (Although I don't know much about Ghadaffi), but could you tell me about the crimes Bashar committed?
    I never said he's complete or an angel, I just stated how the vast majority of Syrian feel about him and the whole situation...
    1- Killing more than 25 prisoners inside Saidnaya prison in 2008 without any reason.

    2- Assassinating many guys around him just because of differences in opinions. Example: Ghazi Kanaan.

    3- Daraa Massacre this month.

    4- Latkia Massacre this month.

    5- Arresting a teenager girl just because of what she was writing on the internet (Tal Al-Melouhi). Rami, please don't tell me the official story about her because it is simply laughable. Saying that a 17-year-old is CIA agent is just weird.
     

    Azzurri7

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    1- Killing more than 25 prisoners inside Saidnaya prison in 2008 without any reason.

    2- Assassinating many guys around him just because of differences in opinions. Example: Ghazi Kanaan.

    3- Daraa Massacre this month.

    4- Latkia Massacre this month.

    5- Arresting a teenager girl just because of what she was writing on the internet (Tal Al-Melouhi). Rami, please don't tell me the official story about her because it is simply laughable. Saying that a 17-year-old is CIA agent is just weird.
    Shall I continue? Okay, thanks....

    1- In July 2010 Bashar Al-Assad issued law No. 30 restructuring and restricting the lawyers’ profession. Limiting the freedom of Syrian lawyers in practicing their profession and putting them under the control of the Syrian Bar Association which in turn under the control of the government.

    2- In June 2010 the Syrian Minister of Education transferred 1200 female teachers from their positions for wearing the Islamic Hijab.

    3- On the morning of July the 6th, 2008 the Massacre of Sednaya Prison. 25 political prisoners were killed on that morning and hundreds later on.

    4- Detainees are in the thousands. Still more than 17,000 missing and disappeared in Al-Assad prisons. Prison conditions and ill treatments are amounting to torture under international covenants signed by Syria. Both Mr. Haitham Maleh 80 and Tal Al-Mallouhi 19 were detained in 2009.

    5- Assassinating Ghazi Kanaan.

    6- Kidnapping journalists/writers/thinkers
     

    RAMI-N

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    1- Killing more than 25 prisoners inside Saidnaya prison in 2008 without any reason.

    2- Assassinating many guys around him just because of differences in opinions. Example: Ghazi Kanaan.

    3- Daraa Massacre this month.

    4- Latkia Massacre this month.

    5- Arresting a teenager girl just because of what she was writing on the internet (Tal Al-Melouhi). Rami, please don't tell me the official story about her because it is simply laughable. Saying that a 17-year-old is CIA agent is just weird.
    1- There was a reason.
    2- do you have evidence?
    3- & 4- there were deaths even on the police side... if you want to buy what the western media said, it's ok. I posted many video that prove how fake their news was. so massacre?! your call...
    5- why is it weird? and I won't tell you anything. is there any evidence on this story? No, then you'll have many scenarios (Rafiq Al-hariri death is an example).
     

    Azzurri7

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    Here's something interesting to read for everyone....

    The duration of the detention could be anywhere from few days to 25 years, some will finish serving their sentence and will remain in detention, some detainees do not have a trial date set until now even though they have been detained for years, note that in some cases the prosecution usually is the Supreme State Security Court and even martial courts, and Exceptional courts, where mock trials are held, and not subject to legal actions or international standards.

    Some citizens are detained on the background of "swearing and cursing," and these people do not belong to any political party, and do not engage in any activism, but they get arrested as a result of security reports that agents write against them, for mentioning certain situations or people in Syria and usually refer them to the Military Court or remain without trial. They are usually detained for a period ranging between three months and three years, and are often detained for periods of time in various detention centers.

    For example: Kamal al-Labwani was arrested in September 2001 after attending a political seminar in the house of fellow activist and politician Riad Seif. Al-Labwani was taken to 'Adra prison and held initially incommunicado detention and then in solitary confinement. Subsequently he gained access to his lawyer and he was allowed family visits. On 28 August 2002 the Supreme State Security Court (SSSC) sentenced him to three years in prison on charges including "inciting armed revolt". After serving his sentence he was released in September 2004.

    On his return to Syria, after a trip to the US, on 8 November 2005, Dr. al-Labwani was arrested at Damascus International Airport, since that time he has been imprisoned in Adra prison in Damascus.


    On 10 May 2007, Dr. al-Labwani was sentenced by the criminal court in Damascus to 12 years in prison, with hard labor, on charges of "communicating with a foreign country and inciting it to initiate aggression against Syria.”
    :sergio:

    Since the entry of the Internet to Syria, and because of the tight control by the security forces, arrests began on the background of messaging exchange between network users, who share their articles or newspaper reports about the domestic situation in Syria, such as: What happened to Habib Saleh, who was arrested by Syrian security authorities on 29th of May 2005 from his office in Tartus, over articles published on a couple of sites (civilized dialogue) and (Transparent Middle East), and sentenced him in 2006 to three years, also 2006 saw the arrest of a member of the National Organization for Human Rights in Syria, a journalist and an independent author Mohammed Ghanem the owner of Souryoun website on the 31st of March, he was arrested from his home in Al-Raqqah to be sentenced on the 6th of June to one year in prison and then it was reduced to six months because of his writings and his positions on his website, which he called the Syrians, Ghanem won his freedom on the 1st of October 2006 after finishing his prison sentence.


    If I continue you guys wont eat the whole day....
     

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