I don't play with words and I am direct.
If you understood me in that way, then it's your problem.
When I told you that you can't understand the structure of the Syrian society, you laughed! but this is the truth.
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I don't play with words and I am direct.
If you understood me in that way, then it's your problem.
When I told you that you can't understand the structure of the Syrian society, you laughed! but this is the truth.
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RAMI¹⁰;2957749 said:
How is that different from the situation in Lebanon or other Arab countries?
Do you think it's better in Lebanon?!
Do you think it's better in Lebanon?!
Also, I don't know why you're mentioning Lebanon, because when people are not satisfied with their living standard they can complain against the government and parliament that THEY'VE chosen.
Why do you jump and run to another topics? You said you think the situation in Lebanon is better??? I told you yes I do think it's much better because of the quote that I posted from the article. And now you say how Lebanese migrate to gulf and some other countries.
Fine, you want to know what the Lebanese are doing in the gulf? They're the most successful foreign employees there, from Dubai to Doha to Saudi and Kuwait. You know what the Syrians are working there? I think you already know.
That's not my point though but you asked for it. Says a lot about the education system we have in Lebanon and the one Bashar's regime has.
It's in Bashar's benefit to have his people suffer poverty and not be educated, it's the only way he can control them for another 40 years like his father did. WAKE UP !!!
Why do you jump and run to another topics? You said you think the situation in Lebanon is better??? I told you yes I do think it's much better because of the quote that I posted from the article. And now you say how Lebanese migrate to gulf and some other countries.
Fine, you want to know what the Lebanese are doing in the gulf? They're the most successful foreign employees there, from Dubai to Doha to Saudi and Kuwait. You know what the Syrians are working there? I think you already know.
That's not my point though but you asked for it. Says a lot about the education system we have in Lebanon and the one Bashar's regime has.
It's in Bashar's benefit to have his people suffer poverty and not be educated, it's the only way he can control them for another 40 years like his father did. WAKE UP !!!
What? do you also have stats and sources for that?
Cool, it's clear you have issues with Syria (especially when people disagree with you), not only the regime.
Wake up?
I am... you want to see otherwise, I respected everything you said, but you didn't like any word I said, because it's not what you wanted to hear...that's why I told you from the beginning, let's agree to disagree because I knew where it was leading us but you didn't want to let it go!Anyways, according to you the majority of Syrians need to wake up!!!
Syria: feared militia kills up to 21 people as protests continue
The Syrian army sealed off the coastal city of Latakia yesterday after snipers from a feared pro-government militia responded to widening unrest against President Bashar al-Assad's regime with renewed bloodshed.
Up to 21 people were reportedly killed as violence, which had previously been limited primarily to southern Syria, erupted over the weekend in Latakia, the tribal heartland of the Assad family that has ruled the country since 1971.
Already facing international condemnation after scores of unarmed protesters were killed in and around the southern border city of Daraa last week, the latest violence will intensify scrutiny on Mr Assad, who has long sought to present himself as a reformer.
Giving at least circumstantial credence to rumours of a government rift in how to respond to the crisis, a militia said to be controlled by members of the Assad family was deployed in Latakia with orders to kill. The Shabiha, which gained notoriety for the brutal way it enforced a protection racket in Latakia in the 1990s, was ostensibly disbanded by the president after he came to power 11 years ago.
But yesterday, the gang's gunmen, seemingly stronger than ever, carried out their bloodiest mission yet to punish those who had dared to march in a place that has become known as the regime's riviera playground.
Residents of the city said gangsters from the Shabiha, which is drawn from the president's Alawite sect of Shia Islam, roared through the streets firing at protesters from their vehicles and later took up sniper positions on rooftops. "Assad's gangs were shooting in Latakia and they had cars armed with machine guns," one opposition activist said.
Video footage showed protesters running down streets, some of them carrying the wounded. For the first time in what has so far been a peaceful uprising, there were reports that the protesters were armed and that they had returned fire.
Some residents also claimed that the demonstrators, who chanted slogans calling for Mr Assad's resignation, were not from Latakia and may have been members of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, an outlawed Islamist group.
The violence prompted the regime to play up fears of a sectarian divide. Latakia's population is a mixture of Sunni Muslims, Christians and Alawite Shia, a privileged minority that dominates Syria politically even though it constitutes just 12 per cent of the population.
Police and army units in the city were said to have been disarmed and initially stood by as the violence raged. When a group of police officers later tried to intervene, four of them were shot dead by Shabiha gunmen, activists said.
In Damascus, rumours swirled of a row between hardliners in the Assad family, many of whom have luxurious beachside villas in and around Latakia, and the president, who was said to have spoken against using force. There were also claims that the argument turned violent when Mr Assad's volatile younger brother Maher allegedly shot and wounded Farouq al–Sharaa, the vice–president.
Maher al–Assad has become the focus of protesters' anger after units of the presidential guard he commands were blamed for killing at least 63 people in Daraa.
Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, said she "deplored" the violence, but ruled out American intervention and appeared to give her tacit backing to Mr Assad. "Many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe he is a reformer," she said.
Mr Assad has pledged to lift Syria's draconian state of emergency, in place since 1963, released some political prisoners and promised other reforms. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...lls-up-to-21-people-as-protests-continue.html
The Syrian army sealed off the coastal city of Latakia yesterday after snipers from a feared pro-government militia responded to widening unrest against President Bashar al-Assad's regime with renewed bloodshed.
Up to 21 people were reportedly killed as violence, which had previously been limited primarily to southern Syria, erupted over the weekend in Latakia, the tribal heartland of the Assad family that has ruled the country since 1971.
Already facing international condemnation after scores of unarmed protesters were killed in and around the southern border city of Daraa last week, the latest violence will intensify scrutiny on Mr Assad, who has long sought to present himself as a reformer.
Giving at least circumstantial credence to rumours of a government rift in how to respond to the crisis, a militia said to be controlled by members of the Assad family was deployed in Latakia with orders to kill. The Shabiha, which gained notoriety for the brutal way it enforced a protection racket in Latakia in the 1990s, was ostensibly disbanded by the president after he came to power 11 years ago.
But yesterday, the gang's gunmen, seemingly stronger than ever, carried out their bloodiest mission yet to punish those who had dared to march in a place that has become known as the regime's riviera playground.
Residents of the city said gangsters from the Shabiha, which is drawn from the president's Alawite sect of Shia Islam, roared through the streets firing at protesters from their vehicles and later took up sniper positions on rooftops. "Assad's gangs were shooting in Latakia and they had cars armed with machine guns," one opposition activist said.
Video footage showed protesters running down streets, some of them carrying the wounded. For the first time in what has so far been a peaceful uprising, there were reports that the protesters were armed and that they had returned fire.
Some residents also claimed that the demonstrators, who chanted slogans calling for Mr Assad's resignation, were not from Latakia and may have been members of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, an outlawed Islamist group.
The violence prompted the regime to play up fears of a sectarian divide. Latakia's population is a mixture of Sunni Muslims, Christians and Alawite Shia, a privileged minority that dominates Syria politically even though it constitutes just 12 per cent of the population.
Police and army units in the city were said to have been disarmed and initially stood by as the violence raged. When a group of police officers later tried to intervene, four of them were shot dead by Shabiha gunmen, activists said.
In Damascus, rumours swirled of a row between hardliners in the Assad family, many of whom have luxurious beachside villas in and around Latakia, and the president, who was said to have spoken against using force. There were also claims that the argument turned violent when Mr Assad's volatile younger brother Maher allegedly shot and wounded Farouq al–Sharaa, the vice–president.
Maher al–Assad has become the focus of protesters' anger after units of the presidential guard he commands were blamed for killing at least 63 people in Daraa.
Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, said she "deplored" the violence, but ruled out American intervention and appeared to give her tacit backing to Mr Assad. "Many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe he is a reformer," she said.
Mr Assad has pledged to lift Syria's draconian state of emergency, in place since 1963, released some political prisoners and promised other reforms. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...lls-up-to-21-people-as-protests-continue.html
Why do you jump and run to another topics? You said you think the situation in Lebanon is better??? I told you yes I do think it's much better because of the quote that I posted from the article. And now you say how Lebanese migrate to gulf and some other countries.
Fine, you want to know what the Lebanese are doing in the gulf? They're the most successful foreign employees there, from Dubai to Doha to Saudi and Kuwait. You know what the Syrians are working there? I think you already know.
That's not my point though but you asked for it. Says a lot about the education system we have in Lebanon and the one Bashar's regime has.
It's in Bashar's benefit to have his people suffer poverty and not be educated, it's the only way he can control them for another 40 years like his father did. WAKE UP !!!
To him, Bashar is not even a dictator. Let alone the rest. How can you convince someone or argue when he sees Bashar as a random neutral President and not a Dictator.
He can support him all he wants, I don't really care, but denying facts is lame. The next thing he will tell me is probably Bashar almost lost the elections last time.
I did not want to compare the Syrian situation the Lebanese, you're right, there are different circumstances and many other reasons to migrate, but theirs is definitely because the living standard is much lower than what we have in Lebanon and most Arab countries.
He can support him all he wants, I don't really care, but denying facts is lame. The next thing he will tell me is probably Bashar almost lost the elections last time.
I did not want to compare the Syrian situation the Lebanese, you're right, there are different circumstances and many other reasons to migrate, but theirs is definitely because the living standard is much lower than what we have in Lebanon and most Arab countries.
How can I even debate with you, when all you have is hate towards Bashar?!
Watch Al-jazeera and see in your eyes...
Where are the facts you are talking about? unless you consider your opinion is a fact!
when I posted yesterday videos denying many things that were shown in the western media, you chose to ignore them
I told you many times let's not debate because I didn't this to affect our personal friendship, but you wanted that...
Don't blame me for defending what i believe in... if you can't stand my stance, then just ignore me and my posts...
Keep undermining me and my posts... it's my fault that I bothered to discuss the issue with you. what was I expecting from a person has all this hate?!!!
Watch Al-jazeera and see in your eyes...
Where are the facts you are talking about? unless you consider your opinion is a fact!
when I posted yesterday videos denying many things that were shown in the western media, you chose to ignore them
I told you many times let's not debate because I didn't this to affect our personal friendship, but you wanted that...
Don't blame me for defending what i believe in... if you can't stand my stance, then just ignore me and my posts...
Keep undermining me and my posts... it's my fault that I bothered to discuss the issue with you. what was I expecting from a person has all this hate?!!!
Look, I'm not bothered because you love Bashar. What bothers me is that you try to take us like fools by saying Bashar is not a dictator but a neutral President.
You can defend his policy, dictatorship, foreign policy etc, but do not try to change the fact and say that he's in power because people love him and because he was chosen to be the president. That's my problem with you, you try to fabricate imaginary things that can work on Texas communities, Chinese downtown but not on me, Lebanese who was raised few km away from your country and had my country occupied by Assad the father and son for 35years.
I'm free to hate the regime and the man. This is my choice. And it's your choice to defend him day and night if you think he's helping you or you're benefiting from him just like many other Syrians are benefiting from him from many ways. But do not deny facts, that's all.
Even Bashar allies, (Hezbollah, Hamas and Iran) would laugh at you if you try to convince them that Bashar is not a dictator.
You can defend his policy, dictatorship, foreign policy etc, but do not try to change the fact and say that he's in power because people love him and because he was chosen to be the president. That's my problem with you, you try to fabricate imaginary things that can work on Texas communities, Chinese downtown but not on me, Lebanese who was raised few km away from your country and had my country occupied by Assad the father and son for 35years.
I'm free to hate the regime and the man. This is my choice. And it's your choice to defend him day and night if you think he's helping you or you're benefiting from him just like many other Syrians are benefiting from him from many ways. But do not deny facts, that's all.
Even Bashar allies, (Hezbollah, Hamas and Iran) would laugh at you if you try to convince them that Bashar is not a dictator.
And that's why you can't win an argument.
It's not that I SEE him it's what he's practicing that makes him a dictator.
If someone sits inside Mr. X house without the owners permission, he's renting or occupying a space from his house? In this case your answer would be that he's renting when there was not a single invoice. Same thing with Assad he became a President after Hafez's death not because he was elected.
Is it thaaaat hard?
It's not that I SEE him it's what he's practicing that makes him a dictator.
If someone sits inside Mr. X house without the owners permission, he's renting or occupying a space from his house? In this case your answer would be that he's renting when there was not a single invoice. Same thing with Assad he became a President after Hafez's death not because he was elected.
Is it thaaaat hard?