Summer Mercato Thread 2020-21 (67 Viewers)

[U Picciriddu]

Just looked at his stats and I must admit that ur at least partially right. He wouldnt do well in any team that actually plays good football - looking at this guys stats he has below 70 % passing success rate and averages lower than 20 passes per game. He may fit Conte lumberjack football, but no way I would want such uninvolved player playing at Juve. In CL he had 56 % passing success rate lmao with average of 16 passes per game he usually had 8 succesful passes per game in CL, that really is pathetic.

Mandzukic also usually had between 60 and 70% passing succes, that 50% is really low though, but in my opinion it’s useless to watch to that kind of statistics while talking about attackers who’s main skills aren’t passing.

Statistics may say that he’s uninvolved, but if you see Inter playing in Europe you can’t blame Lukaku. Matches like the first half vs Shakhtar or vs Barcelona, Inter was dropping back a lot, hoping to that the opponent would press high in order to create space to counter them. If Martinez and Lukaku get isolated, it’s more because of the tactics instead of their skills. He actually was the one who cared the most vs Shakhtar, and with his strength he adds a lot, and creates a lot of space for Martinez.

He’s a good player, obviously I’d never swap him with Dybala, but he’s been carrying Inter this season while being surrounded by average players like Biraghi, D’Ambrosio, Candreva, Gagliardini etc.

If he’d start to finish the easy chances, he’d be worldclass in his role. He misses a bit to much at times.

 

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[LiquidPLP]

Agreed. Don't want at all.

Has to be said though, that Hateboer fits the "so average" tag as well, probably even more so than Bellerin. At least he's cheap I guess.

Hateboer is better defensively for me and a tougher guy to begin with. I'd definitely take him over Bellerin.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Hateboer is better defensively for me and a tougher guy to begin with. I'd definitely take him over Bellerin.

Has a lot more fighting spirit, it’s what makes the difference between a Lichtsteiner/Hateboer and a pussy like Bellerin.

 

[Kopanja]

Has a lot more fighting spirit, it’s what makes the difference between a Lichtsteiner/Hateboer and a pussy like Bellerin.

Fighting spirit alone won't get you far. Sturaro was so full of fighting spirit. Hateboer and Bellerin are both lateral moves at best or even straight-up downgrades.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Hateboer is better defensively for me and a tougher guy to begin with. I'd definitely take him over Bellerin.

That's really all there is. Do you consider him better than what we already have because I don't. Just another plusvalenza fuckery. If it includes Rugani it's somewhat ok, guy is utter useless, but still so underwhelming. We shouldn't look to the Hateboers of this world to try and improve a Juventus squad.

 

[U Picciriddu]

That's really all there is. Do you consider him better than what we already have because I don't. Just another plusvalenza fuckery. If it includes Rugani it's somewhat ok, guy is utter useless, but still so underwhelming. We shouldn't look to the Hateboers of this world to try and improve a Juventus squad.

I agree that he shouldn’t be our main priority, but I rather have Cuadrado/Hateboer than Cuadrado/Danilo.

 

[Nzoric]

That's really all there is. Do you consider him better than what we already have because I don't. Just another plusvalenza fuckery. If it includes Rugani it's somewhat ok, guy is utter useless, but still so underwhelming. We shouldn't look to the Hateboers of this world to try and improve a Juventus squad.

I disagree. Hateboer brings loads of grinta and hard work. If signing Hateboer is a sign of things to come, where we are looking to establish a core of players who are no bullshit all hard work then I'm all for it. Watching us prance around this season has been offensive to say the least.

 

[DAiDEViL]

I agree that he shouldn’t be our main priority, but I rather have Cuadrado/Hateboer than Cuadrado/Danilo.

Would be Ok with him as backup (if he comes really cheap and in exchange for deadwood) but we'd still have Danilo on top of it, right? Doubt we can get rid of him with the salary he's on.

 

[Kopanja]

I disagree. Hateboer brings loads of grinta and hard work. If signing Hateboer is a sign of things to come, where we are looking to establish a core of players who are no bullshit all hard work then I'm all for it. Watching us prance around this season has been offensive to say the least.

That's a problem right there, hard work without skill won't get you far

 

[U Picciriddu]

Would be Ok with him as backup (if he comes really cheap and in exchange for deadwood) but we'd still have Danilo on top of it, right? Doubt we can get rid of him with the salary he's on.

Unfortunately we’re stuck with Danilo at least for another year. One of our players I dislike the most at this moment.

Can’t cross, pass, score, no exceptional defending skills, horrible positioning while attacking, just bare average and its a miracle that he played for Real Madrid and City. I’d be surprised if Pirlo could change him in a good player. Only thing I like from him is that he runs like a maniac while we counter.

 

[DAiDEViL]

That's a problem right there, hard work without skill won't get you far

Never mind me some all hard work, no nonsense/grinta backups, let's just not pretend Hateboer should be anymore than that.

 

[Nzoric]

That's a problem right there, hard work without skill won't get you far

Hateboer has plenty of skills. Let's not pretend that Lichtsteiner was a technical player, but if Hateboer can bring 50% of his ferocity it's money well spent.

 

[Kopanja]

Hateboer has plenty of skills. Let's not pretend that Lichtsteiner was a technical player, but if Hateboer can bring 50% of his ferocity it's money well spent.

No one pretends it. Licht was a loyal servant and a warrior, but guys like Licht starting in your 11 can take you this far.
And both Cuads and even crash test danilo have more skills.

 

[Nzoric]

No one pretends it. Licht was a loyal servant and a warrior, but guys like Licht starting in your 11 can take you this far.
And both Cuads and even crash test danilo have more skills.

Then I wonder why you became a Juventus fan, because the entirety of this clubs historic succes is built on determination and heart coupled with a few spectacular players.

Hateboer over Danilo or Cuadrado at RB any day of the week.

 

[Kopanja]

Then I wonder why you became a Juventus fan, because the entirety of this clubs historic succes is built on determination and heart coupled with a few spectacular players.

Lol, hit me up with your findings, man.

 

[Nzoric]

Lol, hit me up with your findings, man.

I'll try not to lose sleep over it.

 

[Adrian]

Then I wonder why you became a Juventus fan, because the entirety of this clubs historic succes is built on determination and heart coupled with a few spectacular players.

Hateboer over Danilo or Cuadrado at RB any day of the week.

Big call there...whilst always fighting till the end is a priority at juve we have have had a more than a few spectacular players.

 

[Nzoric]

Big call there...whilst always fighting till the end is a priority at juve we have have had a more than a few spectacular players.

Over our entire history, sure. I'm talking about the individual squad compositions.

 

[Adrian]

Over our entire history, sure. I'm talking about the individual squad compositions.

Besides some of the filth we had finishing 7th a couple of times our squads have had plenty over the past 25 years

 

[Nzoric]

Besides some of the filth we had finishing 7th a couple of times our squads have had plenty over the past 25 years

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