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Sashazulu

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Osman said:
Calma, SMS is clearly the better player. He is not close to him even. Lets not get carried away. SMS is the best all around CM in the league. Dont need to sweat and oversell De Paul to show he is a good player.


De Paul is overall more naturally attacking playmaking player too, since he started off as a nr 10/hybrid winger type and became more CM later, so dont be surprised if such a player has more attacking stats completion. Another thing...Someone compared him to Khedira for Juve, which was really weird to read.
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That was me. Khedira was the only mid during his juve years that came forward and scored goals. De Paul would do the same. The other ones like Bentancur, Arthur an Rabiot are not.. A player that comes from midfield and help scoring. That is what De Paul would bring , just like Khedira did and even better. De Paul is box to box, he is not the greatest defensive mid, but he helps.On top of that we have Bentancur , Rabiot and do not underestimate Arthur. He is far from an attacking midfielder.
 
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Nedved96 said:
@rainhard just showed that RDP is very similar or slightly superior to SMS by every metric that you can measure a midfield player by. Your reaction is just to dismiss all that?

I mean, RDP plays the exact same role as SMS does. Lazio have better players than Udinese, yet RDP has more goal contributions.
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True, because people still have 17/18 season highlight when SMS is beast with his goals in their mind
That memory makes people think SMS is way better than De Paul

But I will take De Paul for 35M every day of the week than SMS for 80M (not to count his salary)
But if SMS are available for around 40-50M, SMS worth the gamble. especially if we can reduce the cash $$ with some player exch (Rugani or Berna)
 
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Nedved96 said:
@rainhard just showed that RDP is very similar or slightly superior to SMS by every metric that you can measure a midfield player by. Your reaction is just to dismiss all that?

I mean, RDP plays the exact same role as SMS does. Lazio have better players than Udinese, yet RDP has more goal contributions.
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SMS's role isn't to create goals though. He is a pure center midfielder. De Paul often plays higher up the pitch or on the wings, so of course he's going to have more goal contributions than SMS. By your logic De Paul is a better player than Pirlo or Marchisio ever were because he scores more goals.
Stats are often misleading, especially for midfielders.
SMS is taller, stronger, better at passing, breaking up play, distribution etc. Which quality of De Paul is superior to SMS?
 
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tosh_rose said:
De Paul is a massive player to have as a 4/5th option for a 3man midfield, that is for sure and if Rabiot is the other 4/5th option, then we are suddenly good/very good in our weakest department.

If we don't plan on getting a top class midfielder to add to Benta and obviously Arthur, then it's debatable who is the best low/medium cost MF between all the rumoured players.

RDP is way better than the Udinese level and is a nice pick for a title chasing team, if he is the one that we buy I am sure that if he stays healthy come season end he will be the midfielder with the most goals and assist in the team, although his competition doesn't really score and/or assists that much nowadays...

And also, it's Udinese ffs, if they rate him 35-40m then I am sure we can include some player(s) in the deal and significantly lower the price...
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checking his injury history in transfermarkt, this guy is very healthy with no entries available
https://www.transfermarkt.com/rodrigo-de-paul/verletzungen/spieler/255901
 
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campionesidd said:
SMS is taller, stronger, better at passing, breaking up play, distribution etc. Which quality of De Paul is superior to SMS?
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According to @rainhard

RDP is a better dribbler than SMS.
SMS is not a better passer. RDP plays more key passes, creates more chances, and has more assists.
SMS is marginally better at interceptions, but RDP makes more tackles.

You think that De Paul is only an attacking midfielder, but he plays as box-to-box midfielder for Argentina and he is excellent in that role.
 
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De Paul is a very solid and stable midfielder and these days we don't have even that.
As a starter he is a little bit underwhelming for the club of our size but as a guy to push Benta for a 3rd CM / first option from bench would be decent.
 
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Nedved96 said:
According to @rainhard

RDP is a better dribbler than SMS.
SMS is not a better passer. RDP plays more key passes, creates more chances, and has more assists.
SMS is marginally better at interceptions, but RDP makes more tackles.

You think that De Paul is only an attacking midfielder, but he plays as box-to-box midfielder for Argentina and he is excellent in that role.
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I don't pay attention to stats unless you're a goalkeeper or an attacker. Football is a game of intangibles, and looking at the two of them play, there is no comparison.
 
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    Bianconero81 said:
    Then we go for someone younger with potential. No need to waste money on a one dimensional limited footballer with no resale value who'd come in on insane wages. Tootsie can't be that fucking stupid, repeating the same mistakes over and over again.

    @Mark any news on that kid from Schalke?
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    who again?
     
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    Nedved96 said:
    According to @rainhard

    RDP is a better dribbler than SMS.
    SMS is not a better passer. RDP plays more key passes, creates more chances, and has more assists.
    SMS is marginally better at interceptions, but RDP makes more tackles.

    You think that De Paul is only an attacking midfielder, but he plays as box-to-box midfielder for Argentina and he is excellent in that role.
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    De Paul is excellent all over the field. I think he might even be able to play Matuidi's position and give us the benefit of someone who can still combine with Ronaldo.
     
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    on De Paul Mombly said maybe a deal is possible because of Mandragora situation. Romeo wasn't sure on that deal yet.
    Locatelli was a name mentioned again.
    Beppe's old role is done by AA and we will look to help AA and have a director back. Beppe was mentioned.
    I think it could be Carnevali of Sass. We met him a couple of weeks ago. Could be for him or a player.
    ManUtd want less than 100m for PP.
    DC git offers and will leave.
    Some club from abroad want Berna.
    a new deal with meelan? :mombly:
    Milik. no Berna in deal for Mombly. Agresti thinks otherwise. They sure Milik will come.
    ManUTD called for Ramsey.
     
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