For me, he doesn't seem to be worth his price. He is also way too inconsistent.
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ItaJuve Tonali Locatelli, Zaniolo, Chiesa, Pelligrini
. All the Italians recently who came to Juve are flops, but I would like so much that the next ones succeed and that we find this italian core again which made the success and the history of the club.
. All the Italians recently who came to Juve are flops, but I would like so much that the next ones succeed and that we find this italian core again which made the success and the history of the club.
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Exactly!
What's so special about Chiesa then? The fact he's right footed? It matters little to me, crossing is not a trait that Sarri values, especially with Dybala as #9.
To me comparison with Berna stands still. Both are counter attacking players who are decent when there's plenty of open space, when they can attack from deep. When the opposition's defense is tight, they are useless as they rely too much on their speed and less so on close ball control, good vision and passing.
If you put Chiesa as LW, then it's a different story as he can always cut in and shoot. How often will he play there with CR7 still being around? I have to admit, I'd prefer Chiesa as LW, more so than RW, that's for sure.
To me comparison with Berna stands still. Both are counter attacking players who are decent when there's plenty of open space, when they can attack from deep. When the opposition's defense is tight, they are useless as they rely too much on their speed and less so on close ball control, good vision and passing.
If you put Chiesa as LW, then it's a different story as he can always cut in and shoot. How often will he play there with CR7 still being around? I have to admit, I'd prefer Chiesa as LW, more so than RW, that's for sure.
I'd take Boga for 35 + bonuses over Chiesa for 45-50 all day.
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A realistic and ideal mercato for me would be as follows:
IN
Zaniolo
Boga
Locatelli or Tonali
A Backup RB
A Backup Striker
Out
Costa
Bertha
Matuidi
Khedira
De Sciglio
Rugani or Romero
Higuain (if he really wants to leave)
Ramsey (if a good offer comes in)
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A realistic and ideal mercato for me would be as follows:
IN
Zaniolo
Boga
Locatelli or Tonali
A Backup RB
A Backup Striker
Out
Costa
Bertha
Matuidi
Khedira
De Sciglio
Rugani or Romero
Higuain (if he really wants to leave)
Ramsey (if a good offer comes in)
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negatives outweight positives
positives: speed, workrate, can dribble
negatives: weak end product for a 70m player, wasteful finisher, way too expensive, terribad passing, too inconsistent overall, would be redundant after we signed kulusevski
i reckon berna was a better player when we signed him. i'd take. chiesa for 20-30, but kulu completely convinced me, him over chiesa any day.
positives: speed, workrate, can dribble
negatives: weak end product for a 70m player, wasteful finisher, way too expensive, terribad passing, too inconsistent overall, would be redundant after we signed kulusevski
i reckon berna was a better player when we signed him. i'd take. chiesa for 20-30, but kulu completely convinced me, him over chiesa any day.
He’s strong with both feet btw. Has a very good left foot, and nice vision. I don’t like that he at time loses his head and his game looks and that’s he’s trying to much, on the other side he’s expected to carry Fiorentina so maybe mentally that does something with him.
For crossing Sarri should use it way more, we still have Ronaldo. And Sarri had a great year with Insigne - Mertens - Callejon (who’s very comparable with Chiesa).
I agree tho that he’s more a player for open play, the same could be said for Ronaldo. But at times when Costa has a good day we see the impact that a winger with a lot of pace can have on the team.
Again: I don’t consider him as a superstar, but he has comparable goals/assists with Kulu while playing out of position for the most games this year, and Fiorentina has been a difficult environment, but in general I feel he’s a bit underrated here, and I feel that he has very different characteristics compared to Berna, but ok you saw it from a tactical point of view, I from a technical.
Yes 70 is way to much. Commisso made a mistake last year.
For crossing Sarri should use it way more, we still have Ronaldo. And Sarri had a great year with Insigne - Mertens - Callejon (who’s very comparable with Chiesa).
I agree tho that he’s more a player for open play, the same could be said for Ronaldo. But at times when Costa has a good day we see the impact that a winger with a lot of pace can have on the team.
Again: I don’t consider him as a superstar, but he has comparable goals/assists with Kulu while playing out of position for the most games this year, and Fiorentina has been a difficult environment, but in general I feel he’s a bit underrated here, and I feel that he has very different characteristics compared to Berna, but ok you saw it from a tactical point of view, I from a technical.
Yes 70 is way to much. Commisso made a mistake last year.
I fear even that scenario is very optimistic, pal.
That's a lot of deadweight to ship and we should add Pjanic as well.
Of course also add Kulu and Arthur as incoming. That's well over 250 million on incoming transfers...
All of that during a difficult (economic) period. Maybe if we get lucky on another trade or 2...
That's a lot of deadweight to ship and we should add Pjanic as well.
Of course also add Kulu and Arthur as incoming. That's well over 250 million on incoming transfers...
All of that during a difficult (economic) period. Maybe if we get lucky on another trade or 2...
Realistic? Yes!
Ideal? I wouldnt say so - Zaniolo will make our mid more efficient when attacking but the problem in defense will remain due to midfield not defending enough.
Zaniolo would be great but I`d argue we need a Kante more than a Zaniolo at this point even if the later is clearly more exciting.
Locatelli will be a good backup
Tonali - Im convinced he wouldnt come
Ideal? I wouldnt say so - Zaniolo will make our mid more efficient when attacking but the problem in defense will remain due to midfield not defending enough.
Zaniolo would be great but I`d argue we need a Kante more than a Zaniolo at this point even if the later is clearly more exciting.
Locatelli will be a good backup
Tonali - Im convinced he wouldnt come
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