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Kopanja

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I was also sugesting we are getting Zaniolo who will bring a lot in the attack.

I see what you are saying, and I kinda agree. My dream signing would be SMS, but since that isnt happening, Id rather go for Partey then Jorginho. Just wait till you see Artur - Jorginho - Bentancur. You will see how missed someone like Partey is in the lineup.
I'd rather save money than go for Jorginho, Jorginho is pointless.
 

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GarfielD

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May 21, 2009
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You overrate him. He was lots of times on the bench with Atletico. If he is that great, why are they getting rid of him.
Koke or Saul are not on the transfer list. Yes one of these 2 can be sold, but only for lots of money.
I dont think he was on the bench a lot. A couple of times maybe (5-6). + I think he started in all od their CL games.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Its not necessarily spending power:

Pjanic, 30, 6,5m - Arthur, 23, 5m
Rugani, 25, 3,5m - Romero, 22, 2m
Higuain, 32, 7,5m - Milik, 26, 5m
Bernardeschi, 26, 4m - Kulusevski, 20, 2,5m
Khedira, 33, 6m
Perin, 27, 2,3m
De Sciglio, 27, 3m - Some youth player
Pjaca, 25, 2m
Contract: Dybala from 7,3m increase to 12m
~42,1m net spend on those wages to ~26,5m net

So let’s say we used the money for Arthur with Pjanic and Muratore. Kulusevski got signed in january when Can, Han and Mandzukic left.

With a straight swap between Berna and Milik, we still have Pjaca, Higuaín, De Sciglio, Rugani and Perin to sell (and Costa, Matuidi, Ramsey but I doubt they’ll leave).

At this point we haven’t spent a euro and depending on our financial situation, there’s still a lot possible. But we’re (seemingly) doing good business with lowering the wages and average age. Less wages = more spending power imo.
I think this is a decent approach but it needs some update.

Berna will not go to Napoli. If the swap with Milik happens, it'll be Pellegrini or Romero. I'd prefer to give away Romero as we'll need Pellegrini.
IMO Berna will be more difficult to sell than DC. The latter is an international level player who could easily end up at PSG or EPL. On the other hand Berna has no market outside of Italy and within the country nobody will pay the transfer fee and his wages.
Sure, DC has big wages too, that's why Juve will sell him for cheap. The necessity of getting rid of him is huge IMO, he's never available and has a very big salary, significantly bigger than Berna.
Rugani should be sold, he's shit and earns too much. He'd be a nice plusvalenza but he'll be difficult to sell. Then you need a cheaper replacement. In the end I'm afraid he'll stay as he seems very comfortable here. Thx Tici.

Pjaca will leave on loan for sure. Minnows will not cover his full wages. Hopefully Perin will be sold, at least he's been playing consistently at Genoa.

If you release Khedira, then you have to buy someone to have the right number of midfielders. Whether it will be Jorginho/Locatelli/Tonali I have no idea but that will shrink the club's spending power simply becasue Khedira will leave for free (or probably not even that, Juve will have to pay him severance pay to get it done).

Pjanic, 30, 6,5m - Arthur, 23, 5m
Higuain, 32, 7,5m - Milik, 26, 5m
DC, 29, 6,5m - Kulusevski, 20, 2,5m
Khedira, 33, 6m - Jorginho 4m / Locatelli 2m
Perin, 27, 2,3m
De Sciglio, 27, 3m - Pellegrini ?m
Pjaca, 25, 2m

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I'm kind of struggling to see how Juve will be able to afford any big signings that most people around here expect. From my point of view it would be very good to get rid of Khedira and replace him with Tonali or even Locatelli and then offload Ramsey who's barely ever fit and replace him with De Paul - similar profile but much cheaper, younger and more fit. With that being said I really expect this tranfer window to be quiet in terms of big names coming in. SMS/Pogba/Partey type of players are always the dream but even pre-covid those would be difficult. Now I'd say those will be impossible.
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Why do you think that? We signed him in the winter mercato and loaned him out to Parma. If we had agree to sign him after the loan it would be another story.
That doesn't make any difference; the payment date counts. And since we usually do this in the summer and didn't have any financial room, that's most likely the case. The actual financials are even more complicated with the annual downpayments...
 

Sashazulu

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Jan 19, 2017
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I dont think he was on the bench a lot. A couple of times maybe (5-6). + I think he started in all od their CL games.
I am not saying that he is a bad player. He is a pure defensive mid. With Arthur and even to a certain extend Bentancur + Matuidi. that should be enough.
We need a Box to Box mid., to be clear a Khedira replacement, who attacks and can score goals. Thomas has nothing of that. Even Rabiot has not these qualities .
Why do you think Allegri was such a fan of Khedira? That is what we really need. We are to predictable. Nobody coming from midfield helps Dybala and Ronaldo
We need a great offensive midfielder who can help create and score goals. That is the reason I want De Paul. He is box to box, has vision.talent and scores goals.
Yes I think Kulusevski on the right wing will be a great plus too in helping being more prolific . he is way more effective than Costa or Berna. He will do very well, he is not a Giovinco. He is very strong mentally like all Swedes. To all the doubters remember these words. But the mid that can be all round is a absolute necessity.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Let's stop chasing these mid-tier players please. I'd rather put my faith in Ramsey and Rabiot(who continues to impress) than get additional bodies in midfield just for the sake of it. De Paul, Faginho etc all would be seen as 'impressive' acquisitions if we are trying to finish in the top 4 not for a serial winning team such as ours.

After Ronaldo and De Ligt, we should be having better standards, Corona or not.
 

Sashazulu

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Jan 19, 2017
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Let's stop chasing these mid-tier players please. I'd rather put my faith in Ramsey and Rabiot(who continues to impress) than get additional bodies in midfield just for the sake of it. De Paul, Faginho etc all would be seen as 'impressive' acquisitions if we are trying to finish in the top 4 not for a serial winning team such as ours.

After Ronaldo and De Ligt, we should be having better standards, Corona or not.
Let's stop chasing these mid-tier players please. I'd rather put my faith in Ramsey and Rabiot(who continues to impress) than get additional bodies in midfield just for the sake of it. De Paul, Faginho etc all would be seen as 'impressive' acquisitions if we are trying to finish in the top 4 not for a serial winning team such as ours.

After Ronaldo and De Ligt, we should be having better standards, Corona or not.
It is not about standards. It is about money!! By the way De Paul is worth 10 Ramsey's
 

GarfielD

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May 21, 2009
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- Pirlo & Storari at Juve U23
- Kulusevski to play as '10', the club have talked to him
- Locatelli unlikely this year, Zaniolo 'unsellable'
- Nedved/Paratici will stay
- No Juve contact for Aouar/Van de beek
- Juve will try to sell Costa
- Bonucci will remain

@romeoagresti
 

Karim30

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May 6, 2012
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- Pirlo & Storari at Juve U23
- Kulusevski to play as '10', the club have talked to him
- Locatelli unlikely this year, Zaniolo 'unsellable'
- Nedved/Paratici will stay
- No Juve contact for Aouar/Van de beek
- Juve will try to sell Costa
- Bonucci will remain

@romeoagresti
I gather Pogba/SMS it is :baus:
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
have you peasants lost your minds?!

jorginho? Partey? thats who you you guys want?! is there not enough ugly guys in this club already? and now you want more.

can't wait till one of you geniuses recommends Mane or Salah next.

wake up people. we need handsome bois
 

Jethro

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Mar 6, 2018
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have you peasants lost your minds?!

jorginho? Partey? thats who you you guys want?! is there not enough ugly guys in this club already? and now you want more.

can't wait till one of you geniuses recommends Mane or Salah next.

wake up people. we need handsome bois
You hardly get more handsome than this.

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