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Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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Marchisio is in the legend section. The closest Bentancur will get to that is if he joins the forum and browses the legend section.

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You guys act like its hard to set yourself apart in this midfield

When we had Pirlo, Pogba, Vidal, Marchisio...Bentancur wouldn't have even come close to benching any of them.

To say he is developing nicely in a star-studded midfield like Khedira, Matuidi and Rabiot certainly doesn't say much.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Marchisio is in the legend section. The closest Bentancur will get to that is if he joins the forum and browses the legend section.
My point flew over your head obviously

Marchisio was an inconsistent jabroni at age 23.

Bentancur has the potential to be even better if he keeps up his consistency of this season.

Implying he'll never reach Marchisio's level is way too premature of an opinion.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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My point flew over your head obviously

Marchisio was an inconsistent jabroni at age 23.

Bentancur has the potential to be even better if he keeps up his consistency of this season.

Implying he'll never reach Marchisio's level is way too premature of an opinion.
No, I got your point. No offense if I take your opinion on how a player develops with a grain of salt when you said Cancelo would fix our RB problem for years to come.

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I mean if you want consistency I guess Bentancur consistently gives you average to slightly above average performances with the occasional brain fart in front of defense.

He is our best midfielder right now though, I will admit that.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Marchisio is in the legend section. The closest Bentancur will get to that is if he joins the forum and browses the legend section.

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You guys act like its hard to set yourself apart in this midfield

When we had Pirlo, Pogba, Vidal, Marchisio...Bentancur wouldn't have even come close to benching any of them.

To say he is developing nicely in a star-studded midfield like Khedira, Matuidi and Rabiot certainly doesn't say much.
And 27 year old Marchisio in his prime got benched by a 20 year old Pogba.

A young Marchisio wouldn't have even come close to benching a midfield of Pirlo, Pogba or Vidal either

But Marchisio went on to become one of our more serviceable midfielders

Context matters
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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And 27 year old Marchisio in his prime got benched by a 20 year old Pogba.

A young Marchisio wouldn't have even come close to benching a midfield of Pirlo, Pogba or Vidal either

But Marchisio went on to become one of our more serviceable midfielders

Context matters
That's because Pogba was world class. But Marchisio played in a midfield and survived in a midfield of Pogba, Vidal, and Pirlo (all world class). That alone sets him above current Bentancur because he wouldn't have gotten a sniff. The only reason we even looked at him was b/c Tevez wanted to go back home and we wanted to get a couple players with potential.

Like I said, he is our best midfielder now, which doesn't say much, but he is progressing quite nicely, I agree.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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No, I got your point. No offense if I take your opinion on how a player develops with a grain of salt when you said Cancelo would fix our RB problem for years to come.

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I mean if you want consistency I guess Bentancur consistently gives you average to slightly above average performances with the occasional brain fart in front of defense.

He is our best midfielder right now though, I will admit that.
And you have been hyping mediocre trash like Giovinco and the likes back in the day

Not sure what point you are trying to make

Cancelo was a talented player who unfortunately dint have the right mentality to be an ideal fit at a top club
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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If Bentancur is going to explode, he needs MUCH better players around him and we need to get rid of the other filth plaguing those positions and put in some better players.

His progress is going to get stalled if he is trying to drag the other two constantly.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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If Bentancur is going to explode, he needs MUCH better players around him and we need to get rid of the other filth plaguing those positions and put in some better players.

His progress is going to get stalled if he is trying to drag the other two constantly.
That I can agree with.

All I'm saying he has a place in this starting eleven and that's honestly the only good thing Sarri has done this season.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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That I can agree with.

All I'm saying he has a place in this starting eleven and that's honestly the only good thing Sarri has done this season.
Agree completely.

Sarri really needs to try him in front of defense. Maybe he is waiting for Ramsey to be fit to play on the RCM.

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And yes, Bentancur should be one of the FIRST players listed in the starting 11.
 

Snobist

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Apr 16, 2017
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A 22 year old Marchisio was playing for Empoli, and Juve's midfielders were C. Zanetti, Sissoko, Nocerino, Tiago, and Ekdal.
22-yo-Bentancur > 22-yo-Marchisio
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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And look who are coaches were during those years and what we didn't win, and look what we one with the midfield Marchisio played in.

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And look who was running the club.

lol
 

Snobist

DareDevil
Apr 16, 2017
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Don't get me wrong, I love Marchisio and he is one of my favorite players, he was very versatile, and he could play pretty much any position in midfield. But 22 year old Bentancur is superior than Marchisio was at 22. Time will tell who's gonna be better.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I love Marchisio and he is one of my favorite players, he was very versatile, and he could play pretty much any position in midfield. But 22 year old Bentancur is superior than Marchisio was at 22. Time will tell who's gonna be better.
Didn’t Claudio played as a LM at 22? Probably was misused under Delneri, he exploded when Conte arrived.

I see Bentancur reaching te same level as Marchisio had if he continues to grow like this.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Didn’t Claudio played as a LM at 22? Probably was misused under Delneri, he exploded when Conte arrived.

I see Bentancur reaching te same level as Marchisio had if he continues to grow like this.
Yep - he was a LM for a while.

We brought in a winning coach that saw his talent. :touched:
 

Boksic

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May 11, 2005
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A 22 year old Marchisio was playing for Empoli, and Juve's midfielders were C. Zanetti, Sissoko, Nocerino, Tiago, and Ekdal.
22-yo-Bentancur > 22-yo-Marchisio
It's not really a fair comparison of how good a player will be by looking at x player at 22 compared to another at 22.

Players develop at different ages. There have been plenty who exploded in their early 20s and stagnated or regressed. Similarly there are guys who peaked late in their careers.

I'm a huge fan of Bentancur, always have been. But he is a very different player to Marchisio and I think people should curb their expectations that he will become a goalscoring mid like him or Vidal. He has the ability but his game is completely different.

Marchisio was tremendous for us and I think people look back and underrate him given the other mids at that time. If anything people should think he was every bit as important as Pirlo, Pogba and Vidal to us. Look back at the goals in our first season in 2011-12, he scored so many important ones.

If Bentancur gets close to the player that Marchisio was for us I'd be delighted, he certainly has the ability and attitude to do it.
 

.zero

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Marchisio is in the legend section. The closest Bentancur will get to that is if he joins the forum and browses the legend section.

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You guys act like its hard to set yourself apart in this midfield

When we had Pirlo, Pogba, Vidal, Marchisio...Bentancur wouldn't have even come close to benching any of them.

To say he is developing nicely in a star-studded midfield like Khedira, Matuidi and Rabiot certainly doesn't say much.
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