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Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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whatever. People are too sensitive here this days.

I cant stand the continuous mediocrity in our midfield, people seem to be ok with it while we continue getting dominated in that department. I dont know what kind of football we are talking about here. Its like if most here are brainwashed or something..

cannot wait for us to already sign that Emre can dude, maybe golovin, maybe the pogbad? and (please god) SMS. So maybe, we can see for once our strikers receiving an assist and playing like strikers.
I personally dont care if you get banned or not since you deserve it but I dont have anything against you..
People are not too sensitive - Wishing for someone to get killed is just going too far..
Something like: "Please someone take him away from here. This guy is ruining our midfield." is way more fit
Saying things like cancer and kill him is going too far.. Too bad you insist on people being too sensitive and not that you just made a mistake - apologize and then move on (you did apologize but then said things that contradict it)
 

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Itay

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Aug 10, 2009
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Wow you really are sensitive guys... who cares, Khedira is garbage. I appreciate his contribution but he is not good at all anymore.
I would understand if the comment was about Cheesio or god forbid, Buffon, but it's just Sami. and sometimes we get frustrated, I don't think he should be banned.

Anyway, Thiago and Boateng for 100M and fuck SMS and Lotito as far as I'm concerned.
 

Wittl

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Feb 21, 2017
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Wow you really are sensitive guys... who cares, Khedira is garbage. I appreciate his contribution but he is not good at all anymore.
I would understand if the comment was about Cheesio or god forbid, Buffon, but it's just Sami. and sometimes we get frustrated, I don't think he should be banned.

Anyway, Thiago and Boateng for 100M and fuck SMS and Lotito as far as I'm concerned.
Calling our player garbage. :disagree:

Reported. Ban!
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Wow you really are sensitive guys... who cares, Khedira is garbage. I appreciate his contribution but he is not good at all anymore.
I would understand if the comment was about Cheesio or god forbid, Buffon, but it's just Sami. and sometimes we get frustrated, I don't think he should be banned.

Anyway, Thiago and Boateng for 100M and $#@! SMS and Lotito as far as I'm concerned.
Its not about good or bad player - Take Sturaro for example - He is a poor excuse for a football player but people would react the same should we been talking about him instead of Khedira..
There are things that you just shouldnt say...
I dont think he should be banned but rather warned not to repeat things like he said...

As for your transfer suggestion:
Thiago - Please NO! Super overrated player! will add nothing but fancy
Boateng - With our training method its a time bomb... Do you think he will play more than Howedes?!

P.S - Khedira isnt that bad.. I mean he isnt WC and he is past his prime but he wouldnt be a bad rotation player (Though We should consider wages as well)
 

Itay

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Aug 10, 2009
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So 100 or 150 for SMS is ok but Thiago is overrated?? come on man, he is La Masia. I hate Barcelona but he is the Iniesta Xavi David Silva type player, very high IQ, I really don't see a reason not to go all in for this guy.
 

s4tch

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We dont need that profile of player unless we're selling Pjanic(which we arent)
if kroos and modric can coexist, the same goes for pjanic and thiago. :allegri:

i'd be all over thiago. unrealistic target, not happening, out of our reach and all the usual blabla tho.

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Thiago :tuttosport:

Pjanic passing = Thiago in winter boots
:agree:

basically any thiago - dm - pjanic midfield would be sex, even with stu in the middle.
 

Jethro

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Mar 6, 2018
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What's the point playing Thiago alongside Pjanic? Thiago is a DM, Pjanic plays more like a regista under Allegri. Juve needs someone like Milinkovic-Savic. Anyway, seems like Barcelona wants to pay 50M + Digne for Thiago. :rofl:
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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What's the point playing Thiago alongside Pjanic? Thiago is a DM, Pjanic plays more like a regista under Allegri. Juve needs someone like Milinkovic-Savic. Anyway, seems like Barcelona wants to pay 50M + Digne for Thiago. :rofl:
milinkovic-savic is slightly (...) overrated at that rumored asking price of 140-150m. also, he's mostly an attacking player, even more than pogba, so has no defensive contribution, which is important for juve's playstyle. even if he'd arrive, it would not solve our defensive midfield issues (for instance real cruising through our midfield on multiple occasions) at all. also, thiago is not a dm, he's just good at tackling and also a great passer. that's what we lack: getting away the ball from opponents (khedira, as much as i rate him, is really weak at that), then quickly pass it towards dybala/higgy/costa.

anyway, as juve can't afford either of these, it's probably a pointless discussion. :D digne is a fraud btw.
 
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Yeah @150M for SMS, I prefer Pogba back. He would be cheaper, even with big wages and I am almost certain he would take a pay cut to be back. I want to us to give Lotito the stick and sign SMS like Inter did with De Vrij.

Recently Lotito was even saying SMS is not on the market - more like ''please, beggars can't be choosers''! If Lazio made it to CL, I might have entertained the notion that SMS could stay for another year, but now they aren't exactly in a position of strength.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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So 100 or 150 for SMS is ok but Thiago is overrated?? come on man, he is La Masia. I hate Barcelona but he is the Iniesta Xavi David Silva type player, very high IQ, I really don't see a reason not to go all in for this guy.
Exactly!
SMS is a huge player
Thiago is just overrated player with lots of flair..

To put him in the same sentence as Iniesta and Xavi is an insult towards them..
Both players are the WC of WC players while Thiago is Token from South Park at best..
The only way I wouldnt object getting Thiago is a free transfer like with Can..

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Yeah @150M for SMS, I prefer Pogba back. He would be cheaper, even with big wages and I am almost certain he would take a pay cut to be back. I want to us to give Lotito the stick and sign SMS like Inter did with De Vrij.

Recently Lotito was even saying SMS is not on the market - more like ''please, beggars can't be choosers''! If Lazio made it to CL, I might have entertained the notion that SMS could stay for another year, but now they aren't exactly in a position of strength.
SMS 150M is a lot but I rather see us pay 150M on him than 60M for Thiago.. at least we get a great player in return even if we overpay for him...
Pogba is the guy I would really like to see back here as he is offensively superior to SMS although SMS is much better at defending and physically impossible to handle..
Pogba would make our attack work much better and look amazing even against top clubs - Although he isnt as good as SMS at defending he would add his physical stracture which we need...

Both SMS and Pogba?! Thats Utopia`s utopia..

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milinkovic-savic is slightly (...) overrated at that rumored asking price of 140-150m. also, he's mostly an attacking player, even more than pogba, so has no defensive contribution, which is important for juve's playstyle. even if he'd arrive, it would not solve our defensive midfield issues (for instance real cruising through our midfield on multiple occasions) at all. also, thiago is not a dm, he's just good at tackling and also a great passer. that's what we lack: getting away the ball from opponents (khedira, as much as i rate him, is really weak at that), then quickly pass it towards dybala/higgy/costa.

anyway, as juve can't afford either of these, it's probably a pointless discussion. :D digne is a fraud btw.
What did I just read?
Overrated?! Maybe its an opinion based thing but to say he isnt defending at all makes me wonder if you watch more than 2 or 3 games of his..
SMS is probably the most complete midfielder in the world...
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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What did I just read?
Overrated?! Maybe its an opinion based thing but to say he isnt defending at all makes me wonder if you watch more than 2 or 3 games of his..
SMS is probably the most complete midfielder in the world...
let me rephrase it for you. he's averaging 1,5 tackles and less than 1 interceptions per games, it's not what i'd call vidal or even pogba level of defensive contribution. if you combine these stats, that's less than pjanic - not exactly a dm either - is capable of. for an am, he defends okay-ish.

or probably he isn't. he's a very, very talented prospect. splash out 150m for him and hope that he can handle the pressure, and be consistent for the next 2 seasons before he asks to leave and fucks off to madrid. he's no prime vidal, no prime modric either. he'd be gamble worth to take at around 50-60m, but for 150m... that's almost neymar and mbappe territory, and those guys will be the best attacking players for the next 10 years. to put it into perspective, liverpool bought a very, very capable midfield duo of for less than that (and for more or less the same if you include salaries, too), and english clubs are usually overpaying for players.

before somebody twists this around: i'd be happy if we could get him, but the rumored asking price is just insane. if thiago is really available around 60, i'd pick him against a 150m rated sms.
 

Catenaccio

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Jul 15, 2002
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This year's transfer market is going to be interesting because the deadlines are now VERY different. The world cup finishes in mid July. Most transfer business happens after that. But the deadlines are very different:

England - August 9
Italy - August 18
Spain, France, & Germany - August 31

Basically EPL teams have around 3 weeks post the world cup, Italy 4 while the rest of Europe have a 6 weeks.

Marotta better get cracking as soon as its done. Also after the 18th - you say....I don't care if you want to leave, you are staying!
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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This year's transfer market is going to be interesting because the deadlines are now VERY different. The world cup finishes in mid July. Most transfer business happens after that. But the deadlines are very different:

England - August 9
Italy - August 18
Spain, France, & Germany - August 31

Basically EPL teams have around 3 weeks post the world cup, Italy 4 while the rest of Europe have a 6 weeks.

Marotta better get cracking as soon as its done. Also after the 18th - you say....I don't care if you want to leave, you are staying!
I forgot that mercato end dates changed. Definitely gives added pressure to wrap things up more quickly but it certainly gives the selling clubs the upper hand IMO knowing that the buying team has less time to negotiate or look for alternatives :tup:
 
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