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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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We could actually get Luke Shaw for free and then make him a world class player, pissing on mourinho and man Utd again.


----------------woj------------------
Cua----chie-----bena----luke shaw
------bentanc-pja-pogba----------
DC-----------Dybala---------martial

Subs:
Young keeper
Rugani
Barza
Marchisio
Matuidi
Berna
Bale
if we had an english star player it would make us more marketable. no idea how good Shaw is tho
 

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Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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I'm really get the feeling Can is the only midfield reinforcement.

With that being said, we are being linked to the likes of Martial and Morata. While I am all for them, especially Morata, they would be luxury signings. Our midfield and even our defense need improvements.

If the only departures are Buffon, Licht, ASA, and Manduzkic, I feel like the management will see the midfield as not a big priority given they will be ADDING a player in Can. Also if there are no midfield departures, our midfield will look almost exactly the same, which is extremely underwhelming.

Now realistically, if we sign Can, we need to make another midfield signing. A more dynamic player, I personally do not like Pjanic so much as a regista and would rather he moved to the lcm/rcm spot. So if we are to sign Can, he is essentially a version 2 of Khedira and therefore I would have loved a player in the mold of Tolisso here. Everyone wants SMS but that is never happening. A player like Pogba would be perfect to occupy that left side .

Now on to the defense, Caldara and Spina are coming in. Two good additions. Spina brings some nice versality to our bench, while Caldara is a starter and I wouldn't be surprised if he split game time with Benatia and Chiellini. As far as our targets and rumored signings. Darmian, is an okay player; would be fine to start against the likes of sassoulo and Genoa but no way in hell in the Cl. Therefore I am completely against this signing given we will have both De sciglio and Spina who can play on both flanks. Now this Arias guy, I have no fucking clue but judging by people's reactions he sounds like another average signing, so I am also against it. (I am assuming Sandro will stay). So if Sandro is staying we need a quality rb unless we intend on using Cuadrado has our starting rb. If that is not the case, get a young player.

Lastly the attack, given mandzukic leaves and we bring back Pjaca that means we will have

Lw : Pjaca/Costa
Cf : Dybala/Higuain
Rw: Berna/Cuad/Costa

Costa is our mainstay, while Dybala and Higuain do not seem to thrive off each other. Given that we are playing a 4-3-3 Higuain and Dybala will probably still be the other two making up our front three.

If however Higuain or Dybala is sold, then both Martial and Morata are necessary.

Lw: Martial/Morata/Pjaca
Cf: Dybala OR Higuain, Morata, Martial
Rw: Costa, Berna, Cuad

Anyway I'm moving into my basement and so I wrote this while taking a break but I have no idea where my point is going anymore.

Anyway we need a cm other than Can, a new Rb IF BOTH, Sandro stays and we Don't intend on using Cuadrado as our main rb, and we should only bring both Morata and Martial in the event that either Higuain or Dybala is sold.

Also nothing against the management, I'm hoping they will clear this up but idk
To the bolded: At least you're not living in a van...


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To the rest: I think we need one more good industrial CM. If Marchisio stays fit we have our midfield playmakers sorted betweeen him and Pjanic able to pull the strings. Pjanic is too slow to be anything more than a regista IMO plus he commits retarded fouls too often. What he needs is more technical players next to him...that means less Matuidi and Stu. Khedira is too slow and Pjanic isn't quick either so hopefully Can can add some of that technical ability and hard work. Matuidi offers one of those but not both. I'm confident if we add another top CM that can do well technically you will see Pjanic reach an entirely new level next year.

Caldara is going to do well. Next season IMO we will see the inevitable slide of Chiellini as time catches up to him similar to Barzagli this year and Licht in the 2nd half of last year when we all basically saw it happening. It's sad but its what happens. Chiellini is injured so often too so it makes his comebacks from injuries even harder. Caldara and Rugani will basically cement themselves for certain. Benatia will stay as a starter with Chiellini probably starting too but with max taking his time integrating players we will see Caldara make his way in (that is, if Max stays).

Morata is an absolute beast in the air (headers) and we REALLY need that in the box because Higuain doesn't add that consistently enough, its not his strength. If we manage to sign Martial too without selling then holy shit, that's insane. I get the feeling we will sell Pjaca and Mario is probably leaving too. I'm hoping Max pushes Cuadrado back for certain as the RB next year which would mean we don't need to spend money there. Cuads doesn't have it anymore to be a full time winger surging forward IMO. He is smart enough to make those runs occassionally as a RB which will serve us well.

GK: Woj, Perin
RB: Cuadrado, MDS
CBs: Caldara, Benatia, Chiellini, Rugani, Barzagli (if he renews)
LB: Sandro, Spinnazola
CMs: Pjanic, Marchisio, Bentancur, Matuidi, Can, Khedira*, Fabinho
LW: Martial, Morata
RM: Costa, Bernie
ST: Higuain, Dybala ( we would have to sell one of them, I suppose Morata can fill in for ST too)

*Not sure if Khedira is staying?
**Fabinho is more realistic than SMS so he would be nice because he can fill roles such as CB if an emergency arrives. Good technically and a very hard worker.
 

Liviu

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Jan 10, 2015
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For the Price of bonaventura, Perin and Darmian we could have $#@!ing bought Fabinho
That's what I hate about this management. Spending low and medium amount of $$$ on squad depth / prospects with no WC potential, instead of going for someone who will be a starter and improve our squad. We're not freakin garbage town to have only 11 good players. #it'stime for quality over quantity!
 

CrimsonianKing

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Jan 16, 2013
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I wouldn't be surprised to see it. I imagine the idea would be to replace the strong, hard working, ariel presence which Mandzukic brought out there and he is certainly much better with his feet than Manbro
He is but if you recall we did try to play him on the flanks and it failed miserably. It really doesn’t fit him. It’d be just a big waste.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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Just saying with the rumors of Manbro out the door I don't think Allegri wants to be without a big man in position to bully his fullback and get on the end of Cuadrado crosses.

Allegri seems to be very fond of that and I can see why. That tactic got us two goals in Madrid almost brought us back into a tie that seemed over.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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Just saying with the rumors of Manbro out the door I don't think Allegri wants to be without a big man in position to bully his fullback and get on the end of Cuadrado crosses.

Allegri seems to be very fond of that and I can see why. That tactic got us two goals in Madrid.
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To the bolded: At least you're not living in a van...


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To the rest: I think we need one more good industrial CM. If Marchisio stays fit we have our midfield playmakers sorted betweeen him and Pjanic able to pull the strings. Pjanic is too slow to be anything more than a regista IMO plus he commits retarded fouls too often. What he needs is more technical players next to him...that means less Matuidi and Stu. Khedira is too slow and Pjanic isn't quick either so hopefully Can can add some of that technical ability and hard work. Matuidi offers one of those but not both. I'm confident if we add another top CM that can do well technically you will see Pjanic reach an entirely new level next year.

Caldara is going to do well. Next season IMO we will see the inevitable slide of Chiellini as time catches up to him similar to Barzagli this year and Licht in the 2nd half of last year when we all basically saw it happening. It's sad but its what happens. Chiellini is injured so often too so it makes his comebacks from injuries even harder. Caldara and Rugani will basically cement themselves for certain. Benatia will stay as a starter with Chiellini probably starting too but with max taking his time integrating players we will see Caldara make his way in (that is, if Max stays).

Morata is an absolute beast in the air (headers) and we REALLY need that in the box because Higuain doesn't add that consistently enough, its not his strength. If we manage to sign Martial too without selling then holy $#@!, that's insane. I get the feeling we will sell Pjaca and Mario is probably leaving too. I'm hoping Max pushes Cuadrado back for certain as the RB next year which would mean we don't need to spend money there. Cuads doesn't have it anymore to be a full time winger surging forward IMO. He is smart enough to make those runs occassionally as a RB which will serve us well.

GK: Woj, Perin
RB: Cuadrado, MDS
CBs: Caldara, Benatia, Chiellini, Rugani, Barzagli (if he renews)
LB: Sandro, Spinnazola
CMs: Pjanic, Marchisio, Bentancur, Matuidi, Can, Khedira*, Fabinho
LW: Martial, Morata
RM: Costa, Bernie
ST: Higuain, Dybala ( we would have to sell one of them, I suppose Morata can fill in for ST too)

*Not sure if Khedira is staying?
**Fabinho is more realistic than SMS so he would be nice because he can fill roles such as CB if an emergency arrives. Good technically and a very hard worker.
I agree Cam, I hope we Can.
 

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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I think Salah got lucky to play for a team that has the teammates and a tactical setup to make him succeed. If you have a Firmino/Dybala kind of false 9, the wingers will score much more goals as they receive good balls. If you have a classic CF you want your wingers to pass and cross. Liverpool is lethal bc you don't know who will strike. And if you have 3 to look out for it's inevitable they will score at some point.
You still haven't addressed my objection that they have finished way below City in the league, behind mediocre United, on level with Tottenham and barely above Chelsea. I guess some teams did know how to approach their mighty attack.

Pipa can't play back to defense, hold a ball, win an aerial duel, overrun a defense... what kind of CF he is?

Carry us? he's less impact in our game plan and less goals and assists than other players... any site would show u our stats per players, visit them
All is wrong in your post. Higuain drops back in every game and distribute the ball further. It's thanks to that move Dybala scored so many goals as he had the space upfront as Pipa lured the defenders away. The last two might be valid but only CR7 has all the skills. What kind of CF he is? The one that can score from every place in the box as he has a wonderful shot technique in both his feet. He's also extremely profilic in that.

Only Dybala is better than him in G+A, what are you talking about? Not to mention he was our best scorer last season by a margin.

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