Summer Mercato Thread 2018 (148 Viewers)

[Stephan]

Teams like Man city and Psg will spend big again. Only one of Bayern, Real, Barca can win the CL this season and if Liverpool somehow win the whole thing instead you know all the above mentioned will spend big. Add Man utd and Chelsea to mix.

It will be very hard to compete in the market. We will be outbid everywhere. Only solution is freebies and 20-40m signing or loans. Unless we sell Dybala and Sandro for combined of 150 or smth. And even then realistically who will we buy? SMS from Lazio maybe.

Elkann and go need to throw some money without needing to sell players to improve and compete in the market this summer.

 

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[Nostradamus]

Depends on what formation we are planning to play next year, who is the coach and what style of football are we planning on playing.

Of the players we are linked with I think players like SMS, Fabinho, Giménez, Sidebe, Martial, Fekir obviously fits the bill. I like a player like Torreira from Sampdoria as well. A player like Harit from Schalke or Brandt from Leverkusen is very interesting

Brandt has just extended his contract until 2021 and is going to stay for at least another season.

Under no circumstances ll Schalke sell Harit this summer, after already losing Goretzka and Meyer and who knows whats going to happen with Kehrer.

 

[Akshen]

I think we can all agree that we will need RB and CM mostly.
Having this in mind imo the crucial is that Allegri finally talks with Marotta and Paratici and decides if he wants to play with 2 or 3 midfielders. For me this is the biggest pain in the ass as when we decide to buy Pjanic he goes with two man midfield and 4 in attack, when we had only one winger.
Next year when we buy him so many wingers so he can play his 4231 he decides to go with 433. So we are lacking something in midfield.

Anyway for RB i would have a look at Cancelo if Inter really cant buy him, seems like a good option for me.
For CM its probably Can, but if we cant get him then we should go all in for SMS.

 

[LiquidPLP]

Teams like Man city and Psg will spend big again. Only one of Bayern, Real, Barca can win the CL this season and if Liverpool somehow win the whole thing instead you know all the above mentioned will spend big. Add Man utd and Chelsea to mix.

It will be very hard to compete in the market. We will be outbid everywhere. Only solution is freebies and 20-40m signing or loans. Unless we sell Dybala and Sandro for combined of 150 or smth. And even then realistically who will we buy? SMS from Lazio maybe.

Elkann and go need to throw some money without needing to sell players to improve and compete in the market this summer.

Elkann will not give us a penny now. The club is doing too well domestically for the board to panic. Despite all the potholes we bump into in Europe nothing will change as long as we remain competitive in Italy. Elkann wanted a self sustainable Juve and he's got it. It's even competitive in Europe so no, he won't spend a penny extra for the club's sake.

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It's time to get back down to basics. Marotta has a very difficult job ahead of himself but it's never been easy in the market for him. He has to nail down Emre Can and focus on opportunities that will improve the squad. I wish we could retain all of our stars but it seems like a pipe dream. So he'll have to reinvest the money wisely. Obviously it'll depend on who actually leaves but there are a couple of names that come to one's mind immediately when thinking about this. We surely need a RB + at least one proper CM. That's the absolute minimum in my book.

If Allegri stays he has to play the talented kids we have. Every top club is capable of growing a CB or a CM these days but our kids rot on the bench in the weak-ass-serie-a. Rugani, Bentancur and Bernardeschi should play much more. Max, drop the fucking 2-man midfield. If we get Emre Can I want to see that midfield: Pjanic - Bentancur - Can. We have to have a more creative midfield, otherwise everything upfront depends on Dybala which is totally stupid.

Let Gigi retire. Szczęsny is at the peak of his career, he'll do better than most expect him to. Give away Howedes and Barzagli will take the 5th spot for CB. Allow Rugani and Caldara to play much more next year. We'll be fine then

 

[Xperd]

Juventus are interested in signing Dortmund defender Sokratis, his contract expires in 2019.
Marchetti could replace Buffon, he’s available for free in the summer.
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Front page of Corsport reports that Juventus are onto Griezmann. He's their first objective in this mercato.

 

[-=DJANGO=-]

We don't have the technical qualities to control possession against top teams and we don't have enough energy to press out entire games. We are very good in game management(in favourable conditions) and cutting passing lanes against lower quality midfielders.

In a short - we are in a generational gap. Old are too old and better (at least according to the management) than the current youth. A lot of people are talking about the next year being Rugani's year - I honestly think he is more likely to leave than not. I guess the management sees at least 30M profit in replacing him with someone like Sokratis, but the main point is trust. If he can't start over Barzagli on fitness alone...

We need a new midfield, a defence that is preparing for a post Chiello era and forwards mix-up - Pjaca hopefully firing on all cylinders, Mandzukic replaced and maybe Dybala gone if we are going for a 433 and he can't fit. Should someone offer PSG money for him he is gone for sure.

 

[Xperd]

Juventus are reportedly planning to overhaul their backline this summer, with Borussia Dortmund’s Sokratis Papastathopoulos on the shortlist.

The Bianconeri are all-but out of the Champions League after their 3-0 defeat to Real Madrid, and recriminations have already started in Turin.

Gianluigi Buffon will likely retire at the end of the season, with Wojciech Szczesny to take the gloves next term.

As Gazzetta dello Sport points out, that means the Old Lady will need a new backup goalkeeper, and the newspaper reports Federico Marchetti of Lazio could fit the bill.

The 35-year-old would arrive on a free transfer, though Antonio Mirante is also an option as he’d count as a home-grown player in the Champions Leauge.

In central defence, Giorgio Chiellini and Andrea Barzagli are expected to sign contract extensions, but Mattia Caldara will arrive in the summer.

Given his repeated injuries, Benedikt Howedes is unlikely to be signed outright, with Juve keeping tabs on Borussia Dortmund’s Sokratis Papastathopoulos.

They’d face competition for the Greek defender, whose contract expires at the end of next season, from Manchester United and Arsenal.

Daniele Rugani could move on, having failed to nail down a regular place in the team, while Kwadwo Asamoah and Stephan Lichtsteiner will also leave.

Leonardo Spinazzola will return from his loan at Atalanta, while there are also links to Matteo Darmian of Manchester United.

 

[lgorTudor]

Hard to judge Dortmund defenders because while I recall 869 mistakes Sokratis made off the top of my head but it's Dortmund so he has never received proper coaching

 

[Nostradamus]

Juventus are interested in signing Dortmund defender Sokratis, his contract expires in 2019.

Very likely, as I think Dortmund wanna get rid of him.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Let's overhaul our backline with an aging Sokratis.

 

[Xperd]

Let's overhaul our backline with an aging Sokratis.

He's not that old if you ask me.

 

[Hust]

Juve rival Barca for Griezmann but run into Martial issue France Coach Deschamps claims the Red Devils won't release him | Calciomercato.com

Juventus are planning a major rebuild in the summer, and have a number of big names on their radar.

As the Corriere dello Sport reveal, however, there is one big name that can’t escape attention: that of Antoine Griezmann. What would, we ask, happen if the Frenchman joined? Would Paulo Dybala still have the same role?

Tuttosport, for their part, report again that Anthony Martial is very much liked by the Bianconeri. This follows reports that Manchester United plan to offload the Frenchman in order to sign Gareth Bale.

The Turinese paper also picked up Didier Deschamps’ opinion on the issue: “If he were to ask me about Juventus, I’ll give it to him like I did with Matuidi, but it’s up to the players themselves to decide, and to Manchester United don’t want to lose him anyway.”

The Bianconeri are also thinking of a number of players, including Emre Can, Pellegrini (Roma), Cristante (Atalanta), Milinkovic (Lazio), Rabiot (PSG) and Ramsey (Arsenal). In defence, Gimenez (Atletico Madrid) and Sokratis (Borussia Dortmund) are liked, as are Bernat (Bayern Monaco),Gayà (Valencia), Digne (Barcellona) and Hector (Colonia). Bellerin (Arsenal), Meunier (PSG) and Florenzi (Roma) are also being taken into consideration, as well as Edinson Cavani.

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More reports of major changes coming

 

[Orgut]

Teams like Man city and Psg will spend big again. Only one of Bayern, Real, Barca can win the CL this season and if Liverpool somehow win the whole thing instead you know all the above mentioned will spend big. Add Man utd and Chelsea to mix.

It will be very hard to compete in the market. We will be outbid everywhere. Only solution is freebies and 20-40m signing or loans. Unless we sell Dybala and Sandro for combined of 150 or smth. And even then realistically who will we buy? SMS from Lazio maybe.

Elkann and go need to throw some money without needing to sell players to improve and compete in the market this summer.

Not true.. I mean I get your claim but there are few players we could definitely get if we try hard..
SMS - I see no reason why we cant get him
Pogba - He left for Man Utd but is regretting the move and IMO could be tempted to come back but we will need to offer a serious sum and wages (IMO he is worth it)
Those are probably the best 2 CM in the world right now..

Nzonzi - someone mentioned him and if we spend big for a change like SMS and Pogba we could definitely use him even if I am not a big fan of his style of play..

There are some players who could be a hit (could also be a miss) Im talking about players from other leagues that impressed - I personally dont know much about the guy I mentioned from the Dutch league but he seems to be a potential candidate

Kane - His value is so high that it probably scare away other suitors
Icardi - He is not a player I`d like us to sign but he is a great player we can get if we want..

Defense wise - I think we probably have every option available except for players who play for Real or Barca..

PSG?! Theoretically we can lure players from them but practically we cant since PSG are not in need for money and they dont care if their players are unhappy - Its like - I think Raiola said it - PSG put you in a golden cage..

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Juve rival Barca for Griezmann but run into Martial issue France Coach Deschamps claims the Red Devils won't release him | Calciomercato.com

Juventus are planning a major rebuild in the summer, and have a number of big names on their radar.

As the Corriere dello Sport reveal, however, there is one big name that can’t escape attention: that of Antoine Griezmann. What would, we ask, happen if the Frenchman joined? Would Paulo Dybala still have the same role?

Tuttosport, for their part, report again that Anthony Martial is very much liked by the Bianconeri. This follows reports that Manchester United plan to offload the Frenchman in order to sign Gareth Bale.

The Turinese paper also picked up Didier Deschamps’ opinion on the issue: “If he were to ask me about Juventus, I’ll give it to him like I did with Matuidi, but it’s up to the players themselves to decide, and to Manchester United don’t want to lose him anyway.”

The Bianconeri are also thinking of a number of players, including Emre Can, Pellegrini (Roma), Cristante (Atalanta), Milinkovic (Lazio), Rabiot (PSG) and Ramsey (Arsenal). In defence, Gimenez (Atletico Madrid) and Sokratis (Borussia Dortmund) are liked, as are Bernat (Bayern Monaco),Gayà (Valencia), Digne (Barcellona) and Hector (Colonia). Bellerin (Arsenal), Meunier (PSG) and Florenzi (Roma) are also being taken into consideration, as well as Edinson Cavani.

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More reports of major changes coming

Martial is good but I dont know what is all that fuss around him - He is good but isnt as good as Dybala or something..
Emre Can is very good for free , Pellegrini is just a waste of money and a continuation to what we did before and continue to do - Type of signing that will keep us winning Serie A but wont get us any further in Europe..
Cristante is the same as Pellegrini
SMS is definitely someone we shouldnt take our eyes off him..
Rabiot is ok but I wouldnt spend loads of money on him..
Ramsey could be a nice rotation player if his price is reasonable
Gimenez- dont know him so cant react
Meunier wont leave as PSG wont let him go and Bellerin wont be cheap but Im for it if we have the extra money..

 

[DAiDEViL]

He's not that old if you ask me.

Guess it was the word overhaul that scared me a little. If he comes to take the roll of what Höwedes was supposed to be - fine.

 

[Maddy]

It's the day after the day where Juventus "lost" the quarterfinal and is out of CL. How can we get people to buy our newspaper/click our ads?

I know, let's write an article of an overhaul. Throw in soem typical Marotta signings and a few big ones, and these nerds gonna fall for it.

Marotta is not an overhaul kinda guy and never will be; this summer will be Can, Pellegrini, Costa and Darmian (plus a couple of fillers).

Marotta will most liekly call Berna "a new signing" when he returns from his injury.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

http://m.tuttosport.com/foto/calcio...tus_sar_rivoluzione_ecco_la_lista_di_marotta/

Interesting can see some of this happening. I don’t think marotta has a choice agnelli is getting antsy

 

[electricRoo]

Unless we are selling Dybala, I don't know why there are mentions of big names in attack, since our weaknesses are in defence and midfield. If we could get Pogba, back if the rumours of a buyback clause are true, Can as well as a starter right back (please, not Darmian, we already have MDS as a sub) and keep all our squad, we should be solid. With Spinazzola and Caldara back, there's no need to make huge investments.

I'm sure if we give Allegri better quality players and not sell anyone for fucks sake, he'll do better next time. I just hope he doesn't make the mistake of playing Barzagli against fucking Ronaldo again.

 

[italiacalcio10]

I did a quick update on the financial statements as of December 31st 2017 - available on the website, but you have to dig a little.
-Debt is at its highest level in a couple of years
-Revenue ex-player sales is growing at a rate of ~15% for the last 12 months, obviously partially due to UCL final.
-Wages are increasing 20%, and are ~55% of sales ex-player sales
-Earnings before interest, depreciation, and taxes is ~49MM EUR, up from ~42MM EUR last year.
-We owe 71MM EUR to other clubs for transfers, of which 60MM is due in the next 12 months.
-We have a cash balance of 72MM EUR
-I'm projecting 32MM EUR in cash generation before non-player related investment, and 22MM EUR after non-player investment.
-This means it has EUR30MM available for transfer payments + its cash balance, but the club obviously won't exhaust its cash balance.
-The club owes -60MM in the next 12 months already for transfers, meaning that after this, the club will have -30MM EUR for transfers, which will drag its cash balance down to 41MM EUR.
-The club will look to defer payment on transfers as it typically does in its transfer policy, which will give it more to play with.
-The club can 'technically' spend up to 100MM assuming it defers payment over 3 years, but will likely spend less as it won't exhaust its cash balance - probably more like 50MM EUR
-It could could incur more if it is comfortable incurring more debt, which is already at an elevated level (interest rates are low and currently interest expense is only 12MM EUR.
-It could also sell players (of course), and could open up more money to spend if it collects over 2 years (a rate higher than it is paying for purchases e.g 3 years)
-For example: Let's say we sold Sandro for 50MM , payable over 2 years...that would allow Juve to make purchases with a value of up to 175MM.
-The last option is an equity injection. Agnelli's could open up the chequebook. The company has plenty of capacity for investment considering the company has a strong cumulative surplus over 3 years, meaning they could technically have a larger accounting loss over the next few years if they decide to invest into players.

CONCLUSIONS - assuming attractive terms in terms of paying vs receiving
-With no sales, and no investment/debt, we can buy 25-30 EUR in net spend.
-With some sales, and no investment/debt, we can buy 50-75 EUR in net spend
-With heavy sales, 75MM-80MM in EUR in net spend
-With equity investment, this amount could probably increase to 175-200MM, but that is asking the Agnellis to put in 100MM lol...doubt that's happening.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Your not counting sales of players like Sandro and possibly others

 

[lgorTudor]

http://m.tuttosport.com/foto/calcio...tus_sar_rivoluzione_ecco_la_lista_di_marotta/

Interesting can see some of this happening. I don’t think marotta has a choice agnelli is getting antsy

Not sure AA is even inside the command chain