Summer mercato thread 2017-18 (61 Viewers)

[Hydde]

Verrati was a major idiot for commiting so much to PSG. he should have known that there are teams with much more pedegree willing to get him.

I understand he was grateful to them for giving him his first major breakthru... but he shouldnt have sold his soul that way. Now he is stuck

 

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[SrdanPopovic]

Verrati was a major idiot for commiting so much to PSG. he should have known that there are teams with much more pedegree willing to get him.

I understand he was grateful to them for giving him his first major breakthru... but he shouldnt have sold his soul that way. Now he is stuck

Thats what i am talking about brother, he sold his soul, PSG is the only club who cant actually be forced to let him go

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I wonder if we're going to have like 5 CM targets who we're gonna chase all summer long instead of knowing exactly who we want...

 

[Osman]

Sold his soul? He has been very well compensated for his services and been playing for a top competitive club.

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[zizinho]

Verrati was a major idiot for commiting so much to PSG. he should have known that there are teams with much more pedegree willing to get him.

I understand he was grateful to them for giving him his first major breakthru... but he shouldnt have sold his soul that way. Now he is stuck

he likes Paris and is paid more than almost anywhere else in the world. has no reason to leave

 

[SrdanPopovic]

Sold his soul? He has been very well compensated for his services and been playing for a top competitive club.

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There are much more competitive clubs these days than PSG, in terms of throphies, who wants him,what you are talking about?
Should I name clubs who wants Verrati: Juventus, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid
PSG can have all money of this world but still never will be in same league with mentioned clubs

 

[digitalbash]

If Saudi can't push Qatar, why would you think we could push PSG who is owned by Qatar? They hate us. End of story.

 

[Xperd]

Sold his soul? He has been very well compensated for his services and been playing for a top competitive club.

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Yep.

 

[Jvcro]

There are much more competitive clubs these days than PSG, in terms of throphies, who wants him,what you are talking about?
Should I name clubs who wants Verrati: Juventus, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid
PSG can have all money of this world but still never will be in same league with mentioned clubs

Never will. That doesnt mean Paris players desperately want to leave. At least I didnt notice.

 

[SrdanPopovic]

Never will. That doesnt mean Paris players desperately want to leave. At least I didnt notice.

zlatan wanted to leave, Verrati deep down wants to leave, there are a lot Di CAMPLI statements over the last few months about him leaving, theres no smoke without Fire brother, he wants to leave

PSG is just money, theres no tradition, champions like to play in historicaly strong teams, there are situations where money is not enough

 

[Jvcro]

zlatan wanted to leave, Verrati deep down wants to leave, there are a lot Di CAMPLI statements over the last few months about him leaving, theres no smoke without Fire brother, he wants to leave

PSG is just money, theres no tradition, champions like to play in historicaly strong teams, there are situations where money is not enough

Zlatan spend pretty much time there before he leave. I dont like like most of people Psg. But players doesnt seem unahappy. Because money or some other "cute" stuff anyway.

 

[BayernFan]

There are much more competitive clubs these days than PSG, in terms of throphies, who wants him,what you are talking about?
Should I name clubs who wants Verrati: Juventus, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid
PSG can have all money of this world but still never will be in same league with mentioned clubs

I agree with you mate. And thats why those oil clubs like City, PSG, (Chelsea too) and so on will suffer most from financial fair play. What they dont got in history/appeal they compensate for with money.

They will never get close to Juventus, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and so on when it comes to anything else than money

Sometimes I also wonder if they could attract star players if it wasnt for their owners insane amount of money, I mean if someone got an offer from lets say Juventus and Bayern and an offer from PSG and City what would they chose? Money or trophy ambitions?

Sometimes it sounds like those poor footballers starve when they dont chose the best offer ecconomicly. Cant feel sorry for them really

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

What does Allegri have to do with it?



There are definitely realistic targets out there who can improve our starting XI. I'm confident we'll end the mercato with upgrades on Khedira and Cuadrado. Maybe Mandzukic too.

Oh yeah I should clarify I'm talking about medium-long term. We might get 1 or 2 minor upgrades (If they perform as expected) but when our current aging players are done we won't be replacing them with equal or greater quality with this transfer method of low balling and deal hunting.

Of course, it's not impossible we change our transfer tactics. It's gotten us so far, so quickly. But it has its limits when every single top player you see is getting eaten up by the same handful of clubs, not including us. Eventually, those top players will improve teams already close to or in Madrid's case superior to our level.

 

[Jvcro]

zlatan wanted to leave, Verrati deep down wants to leave, there are a lot Di CAMPLI statements over the last few months about him leaving, theres no smoke without Fire brother, he wants to leave

PSG is just money, theres no tradition, champions like to play in historicaly strong teams, there are situations where money is not enough

For some players being appreciated and well paid is enough. I look players in Croatia Corluka for example. He never even try to leave Russia. France is even much better.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

I agree with you mate. And thats why those oil clubs like City, PSG, (Chelsea too) and so on will suffer most from financial fair play. What they dont got in history/appeal they compensate for with money.

They will never get close to Juventus, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and so on when it comes to anything else than money

Sometimes I also wonder if they could attract star players if it wasnt for their owners insane amount of money, I mean if someone got an offer from lets say Juventus and Bayern and an offer from PSG and City what would they chose? Money or trophy ambitions?

Sometimes it sounds like those poor footballers starve when they dont chose the best offer ecconomicly. Cant feel sorry for them really

FFP is a myth though, it's more likely to stop half decent clubs from improving than it is to seriously cap the mega rich. I'm pretty sure in a capitalist society you can't ban people from using their own money on football players because reasons. Didn't PSG squash FFP recently?


No doubt Bayern, Madrid, Barca, Juve have more appeal than the rest in terms of current 'top' clubs. Then you have United and both Milan teams too with equal prestige just lacking the league table positions. The problem is, players can go to these oil clubs, get paid more AND compete for trophies. It's not a case of money or ambition. In the case of Chelsea for example it's money and enough ambition.

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PSGs problem is basically a worse version of our own problem. Their league is just redundant on the grand scale. If they were in the Prem, with the exact same owners and team from top to bottom they could easily attract the best players.


Top players generally don't care for history. Or at least, it's a distant 3rd to Money and current level.

They only big up the history of a club on their signing day.


Money or ambition can fluctuate on which is the prime factor for a player. History does not come into play.

 

[Hydde]

Sold his soul? He has been very well compensated for his services and been playing for a top competitive club.

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Although i willl not diminish what PSG have gotten in this years with their "ways" of doing things, both of us know that some footballers want money but also want to play with the best and in the most renown teams. While PSG is not an unknown team..there are teams like madrid, barcelona, bayern, and even juventus...whoc an give him competitive wages and spotlight as the main player in a historically famous team. Is not about money only.

he likes Paris and is paid more than almost anywhere else in the world. has no reason to leave

So money is everything in your eyes it seems.

He has been paid a lot, and he can get rich contracts in any team he wants. His agent said himself that is "not about money" and then you come telling me that it is. If his would have been looking for a wage increas he could have used other methods of pressure... but like Dujj says... the way he is talking is because something is going on.

He likes paris? so what?. He can change teams and it doesnt mean he cannot go visit paris every holiday.

 

[Itay]

Zlatan spend pretty much time there before he leave. I dont like like most of people Psg. But players doesnt seem unahappy. Because money or some other "cute" stuff anyway.

You're right, however they have no problem refusing to sell, like they did with Matuidi, and Aurier, and Marquinhos. and I'm pretty sure Thiago Motta is also in a golden prison. pretty much the opposite of us, maybe that's why there's hatred there...

 

[Jvcro]

Although i willl not diminish what PSG have gotten in this years with their "ways" of doing things, both of us know that some footballers want money but also want to play with the best and in the most renown teams. While PSG is not an unknown team..there are teams like madrid, barcelona, bayern, and even juventus...whoc an give him competitive wages and spotlight as the main player in a historically famous team. Is not about money only.


So money is everything in your eyes it seems.

He has been paid a lot, and he can get rich contracts in any team he wants. His agent said himself that is "not about money" and then you come telling me that it is.

He likes paris? so what?. He can change teams and it doesnt mean he cannot go visit paris every holiday.

Is money everything depends how some player look on that. We have players like Mandzukic who desperately always wanted big trophies and play in big clubes. We also have Srna, Corluka who wanted to feel safe, appreciated and be well paid. Players think different about that.

 

[zizinho]

Although i willl not diminish what PSG have gotten in this years with their "ways" of doing things, both of us know that some footballers want money but also want to play with the best and in the most renown teams. While PSG is not an unknown team..there are teams like madrid, barcelona, bayern, and even juventus...whoc an give him competitive wages and spotlight as the main player in a historically famous team. Is not about money only.


So money is everything in your eyes it seems.

He has been paid a lot, and he can get rich contracts in any team he wants. His agent said himself that is "not about money" and then you come telling me that it is. If his would have been looking for a wage increas he could have used other methods of pressure... but like Dujj says... the way he is talking is because something is going on.

He likes paris? so what?. He can change teams and it doesnt mean he cannot go visit paris every holiday.

i said he likes Paris, money is just a bonus. stop trying to find reasons why he would leave

 

[Dujj]

Speaking to Tuttosport – per Football-Italia – Verratti’s agent said: “Juventus will certainly do something special in the next transfer window. Verratti? There’s the will of PSG to keep him at all costs.

“Now it’s clear: money isn’t enough. Appeal is also needed, and in the last four or five years, the French club haven’t done enough to improve in that regard.

“Juventus are much more attractive because champions are attracted to winning teams.”


Read more at http://www.squawka.com/news/juventu...psg-explains-agent/958098#iJGZvsCGTv7KgaBG.99

Those quotes are not full quotes:

While it's hard to think Verratti will stay at PSG forever, that's not the full quote here:



Di Campli said: "This coming Mercato, imagining that Verratti will join Juve is a joke. PSG's will is to keep him at all costs." http://www.culturepsg.com/news/merc...us-que-le-psg-selon-l-agent-de-verratti/16009

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zlatan wanted to leave, Verrati deep down wants to leave, there are a lot Di CAMPLI statements over the last few months about him leaving, theres no smoke without Fire brother, he wants to leave

PSG is just money, theres no tradition, champions like to play in historicaly strong teams, there are situations where money is not enough

Bad example. Zlatan actually wanted to stay. We know it from CulturePSG, and LeParisien (again, if anyone don't trust me, you can contact CulturePSG people there > https://twitter.com/culturepsg )

Nasser had a choice to make. Zlatan's contract ran out, so Zlatan was free to do what he wanted, but he wanted to get a new contract (and more money ofc), but Cavani didn't want to play on the side anymore.

Nasser preferred cavani over an aging Zlatan.

For reference, PSG didn't lose the french league title because of Cavani. Cavani scored 49 goals in a single season (FL+CL + both french cups), one less than Zlatan best year at psg.

Now sure, nowadays Zlatan has a bad relationship with PSG, but nothing to do about what happened on the pitch. Zlatan thinks PSG should have paid him a bonus that was in his last contract, and PSG said he didn't fullfilled the conditions for it.