Summer mercato thread 2017-18 (67 Viewers)

[Hydde]

Initially they won't be starters, but Fabinho can be good enough to bench Khedira after a while, while Berna is well rounded enough winger to defenitely bench Cuadrado very quickly, but Allegri likes to be patient with young players so it might take a while. They will be luxury backup first.

 

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[Klovn]

This Mercato is realistic.

Probably 5-6 players from current squad would have to leave.

And we would need more then 100 million to achieve that.

Hopefully Asamoah is one of them

 

[Seven]

Initially they won't be starters, but Fabinho can be good enough to bench Khedira after a while, while Berna is well rounded enough winger to defenitely bench Cuadrado very quickly, but Allegri likes to be patient with young players so it might take a while. They will be luxury backup first.


Douchen, I'm not sure about Spinozzola, he is quick and has nice enough technique but not sure he is Juve backup level, he certainly doesn't think so himself. But it can be useful to have another naturally attacking fullback as Sandro substitute, atleast 3rd choice one since DS likely to be first choice.

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Really? I think Bernardeschi will improve massively by joining us and we will make the most of his potential, but so far I just don't really see the supertalent people claim he's got.

 

[zizinho]

Lichtsteiner
Asamoah
Neto
Lemina

4 players I expect to leave for sure. Mandzu is still a 50-50 to me despite him signing an extension.

Neto?

 

[Osman]

Not super talent at all, but Cuadrado main impact is his dribbling ability and speed but he has way to bog things down with bad erratic decision making, doesn't release the ball quick enough at times. Alves isn't natural winger but he shows Cuadrados flaws more when played instead of him, quicker combinations with players and natural playmaker. Bernardeschi shares that similar approach so might oust Cuadrado simply for showing more range after a while.

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[Gigiventus]

He is definitely better than Cuadrado. I'm a big fan of Cudrado but he has his limitations. Every time Cuadrado gets a good run of games I hope he becomes consistent and explode, but its never the case. Super useful, just not a top player.

Berna has the workrate, the physicality, the technique and the vision to bench him easily. We would lose in crazy speed and fast dribbling, but then Cuadrado can always come off the bench and change games.

 

[-=DJANGO=-]

I understand the logic in the transfer as 100M and the player can also get you some shirts and etc
I understand the logic of the other one who said players worth what the market say
I just say its illogical to pay 100M for a football player its just immoral thing
Football is entertainment while there are much bigger things than football such as human health (finding cures for diseases and etc..)

Of course buying Mbappe for 130M could generate much more in the long run as the player is very young and could get you trophies+money from tournaments+money from advertising - in that sense its logical but it doesnt make it moral!

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good players - hope we get them

Oh now, morality is an even worse reason. Is it moral for most kids to idolize some ball-kicking idiot, who has no other qualities? Not only kids though - grown men and women who must know better by then. Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't - but its a fact.
It is perhaps immoral to sell drugs, perhaps it isn't. Its a 2 000 Billion $ per year business, by conservative FBI standards. In other words it could easily buyout or replace the Fobres 100 and some. Perhaps they name only moral people in there?

In an year where standart ball player goes for 40m, a better one for 60-80m - if Mbappe turns out to be R9 quality and R7 longevity he is cheap at 130M. Again maybe immoral, but a fact. So if businesses lose sight of the facts in lieu of morality they tend not to do too well.

 

[Orgut]

Oh now, morality is an even worse reason. Is it moral for most kids to idolize some ball-kicking idiot, who has no other qualities? Not only kids though - grown men and women who must know better by then. Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't - but its a fact.
It is perhaps immoral to sell drugs, perhaps it isn't. Its a 2 000 Billion $ per year business, by conservative FBI standards. In other words it could easily buyout or replace the Fobres 100 and some. Perhaps they name only moral people in there?

In an year where standart ball player goes for 40m, a better one for 60-80m - if Mbappe turns out to be R9 quality and R7 longevity he is cheap at 130M. Again maybe immoral, but a fact. So if businesses lose sight of the facts in lieu of morality they tend not to do too well.

Agree.
Mbappe will never be R9 quality (before the injury) if he was you would see it now already...
Ronaldo without the injury would probably be the best player in history as he was simply unstoppable
Messi is an amazing footballer but even he is not as good as Ronaldo prior to his injury

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Whats the news about wingers - from what I understand the most likely to come here are Bernardeschi and D.Costa and reports say its done for Tolisso so should we expect a mercato of Bernardeschi D.Costa Tolisso Schick?

 

[-=DJANGO=-]

Agree.
Mbappe will never be R9 quality (before the injury) if he was you would see it now already...
Ronaldo without the injury would probably be the best player in history as he was simply unstoppable
Messi is an amazing footballer but even he is not as good as Ronaldo prior to his injury

Agreed, but R9 at 18/19 was banging goals in not so much better Dutch league at a 1:1 ratio playing CF. Mbeppe has a bigger than 2:1 ratio in relatively better league and more importantly bangs them goals in da CL. From WIDE positions mostly! So it is not yet clear cut that Mbappe is certain to be worse than R9. More than that if his peak is 10% worse quality wise, and 300% longer timewise - It will be again hard to argue who the better player was at the end of it. Title wise I would bet money on Mbappe in such case, but its all a gamble at the end. He could slip next to the pool and end his career this summer. No party for Monaco and certainly no 100mils!

 

[ADP.10]

Agree.
Mbappe will never be R9 quality (before the injury) if he was you would see it now already...
Ronaldo without the injury would probably be the best player in history as he was simply unstoppable
Messi is an amazing footballer but even he is not as good as Ronaldo prior to his injury

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Whats the news about wingers - from what I understand the most likely to come here are Bernardeschi and D.Costa and reports say its done for Tolisso so should we expect a mercato of Bernardeschi D.Costa Tolisso Schick?

According to Aulas Lyon's president, Tolisso is now worth 60M. I've also read J. Rodriguez could consider leaving R. Madrid. Anyone konws if it could be true? I'd gladly take him instead of Costa. ManU and Merda want him, i could get a hard on if we stole him from them.
BTW Berna would obviously play on the left, since we have Cuadrado/Alves on the right, and nobody on the left.

 

[Itay]

According to Aulas Lyon's president, Tolisso is now worth 60M. I've also read J. Rodriguez could consider leaving R. Madrid. Anyone konws if it could be true? I'd gladly take him instead of Costa. ManU and Merda want him, i could get a hard on if we stole him from them.
BTW Berna would obviously play on the left, since we have Cuadrado/Alves on the right, and nobody on the left.

James in right on Dybala's position... I mean, he can play as winger but his position is as a #10.
We should get a proper winger, Robben style

 

[ADP.10]

James in right on Dybala's position... I mean, he can play as winger but his position is as a #10.
We should get a proper winger, Robben style

Still, i'd love to see the look on their faces.

 

[Hydde]

Really? I think Bernardeschi will improve massively by joining us and we will make the most of his potential, but so far I just don't really see the supertalent people claim he's got.

at the very least he got better endproduct than cuadrado. That could be ebough to bench him.

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Not super talent at all, but Cuadrado main impact is his dribbling ability and speed but he has way to bog things down with bad erratic decision making, doesn't release the ball quick enough at times. Alves isn't natural winger but he shows Cuadrados flaws more when played instead of him, quicker combinations with players and natural playmaker. Bernardeschi shares that similar approach so might oust Cuadrado simply for showing more range after a while.

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exactly.

 

[Hust]

I'd be ok with keeping Asa & Licht for backup if it meant we solidified our attack:

1.) Mbappe** yao
2.) Schick
3.) Sanchez/Bernadeschi
4.) DS (would allow us to sell one of Asa or Licht so wouldn't hurt us financially all that much)

Higuain/Mbappe**
Sanchez/Mario - Dybala/Schick - Cuadrado/Pjaca​

**Hustini really wants Mbappe...haven't wanted a guy this much since G.Jesus last year. Reminds me of Henry a bit. Buffon also likes


Getting DS would pretty much fix our backup LB/RB solution for some time. Allegri likes and who the hell are we to judge the incredible Max? If he can get the best out of him we would be retarded to object. We bought Benatia...we are set for like a decade in the backline. Our midfield is ridiculous already and only playing 2 CM's I think we are still good, hopefully Khedira stays another year.

Fuck. Forgot about Becantor (spelling?) but that kid will be on loan for sure. We need someone to rotate with Higuain, he goes down we will be hurting. Mario is simply a freak of nature but even he needs a rest. Pjaca will take at least half a season to even be trusted regularly. We took our time with claudio we will do the same.

Fact is, we are making a shit ton of money and our team is already stacked so we are at the point where we buy players that will be an instant impact (Sanchez, for example).

Adding Sanchez & Mbappe would give us the most deadly attack IN MY OWN HONEST OPINION. Even better than Barca's. Sanchez/Mbappa/Cuadrado on his day/Dybala/Higuain is like a constant 90 minute blitzkrieg on a defenses lol

 

[ADP.10]

I'd be ok with keeping Asa & Licht for backup if it meant we solidified our attack:

1.) Mbappe** yao
2.) Schick
3.) Sanchez/Bernadeschi
4.) DS (would allow us to sell one of Asa or Licht so wouldn't hurt us financially all that much)

Higuain/Mbappe**
Sanchez/Mario - Dybala/Schick - Cuadrado/Pjaca​

**Hustini really wants Mbappe...haven't wanted a guy this much since G.Jesus last year. Reminds me of Henry a bit. Buffon also likes


Getting DS would pretty much fix our backup LB/RB solution for some time. Allegri likes and who the hell are we to judge the incredible Max? If he can get the best out of him we would be retarded to object. We bought Benatia...we are set for like a decade in the backline. Our midfield is ridiculous already and only playing 2 CM's I think we are still good, hopefully Khedira stays another year.

$#@!. Forgot about Becantor (spelling?) but that kid will be on loan for sure. We need someone to rotate with Higuain, he goes down we will be hurting. Mario is simply a freak of nature but even he needs a rest. Pjaca will take at least half a season to even be trusted regularly. We took our time with claudio we will do the same.

Fact is, we are making a $#@! ton of money and our team is already stacked so we are at the point where we buy players that will be an instant impact (Sanchez, for example).

Adding Sanchez & Mbappe would give us the most deadly attack IN MY OWN HONEST OPINION. Even better than Barca's. Sanchez/Mbappa/Cuadrado on his day/Dybala/Higuain is like a constant 90 minute blitzkrieg on a defenses lol

If we can get wingers Mandzu will rotate with Higuain imo. I'd keep Asa too but i've read he's looking for a new club. Still, this would be a perfect mercato.

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Im on the same page too. Now i know why i had a gridge against mandz before, and that was because i didnt liked him as a CF. He spent most of the time defending and setting up dybala. Whuch is ok, but as a CF the priority are goals!! Workload and assist are secondary. Since he was not a scoring machine i was not ok with him.

Now in his new position he can do what he likes the most which is to press and assist. Like some also said, he is big but he is technicaly very dependant, so even when he is not a speedster, he can be relied upon as a winger and im fine with this.

It seem bernardeshi and shick will come. I would like to see pjaca not getting loaned, in the meantime, bernardeschi can play the mandzu and dybala sub role.

I want to see more or mandragora. Betancour should be loaned.

Dsiglio would be a great addition.

Another sound DM would do if we sell lemina and sturaro maybe?

Mbappe is fantasy.

Nah he helped out but i can't see him start next year as winger. Despite all his talent i know we can get our hands on a better starting LW. I would splash all we can for it.

 

[Hydde]

If we can get wingers Mandzu will rotate with Higuain imo. I'd keep Asa too but i've read he's looking for a new club. Still, this would be a perfect mercato.

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Nah he helped out but i can't see him start next year as winger. Despite all his talent i know we can get our hands on a better starting LW. I would splash all we can for it.

i understand you.. but he is an allegri favourite and is not like he is playing bad. He will start for sure there next season.... unless we buy a real wolrd beater worth to bench him

 

[italiacalcio10]

I like the idea getting Bernardeschi. We need more Italian players. Domestic players are crucial because they are the most likely to stay, and ultimately a strong domestic class means a more competitive league.

 

[Collaguazo]

Any news on Chumasteiger?

 

[Gep]

I'd be ok with keeping Asa & Licht for backup if it meant we solidified our attack:

1.) Mbappe** yao
2.) Schick
3.) Sanchez/Bernadeschi
4.) DS (would allow us to sell one of Asa or Licht so wouldn't hurt us financially all that much)

Higuain/Mbappe**
Sanchez/Mario - Dybala/Schick - Cuadrado/Pjaca​

**Hustini really wants Mbappe...haven't wanted a guy this much since G.Jesus last year. Reminds me of Henry a bit. Buffon also likes


Getting DS would pretty much fix our backup LB/RB solution for some time. Allegri likes and who the hell are we to judge the incredible Max? If he can get the best out of him we would be retarded to object. We bought Benatia...we are set for like a decade in the backline. Our midfield is ridiculous already and only playing 2 CM's I think we are still good, hopefully Khedira stays another year.

$#@!. Forgot about Becantor (spelling?) but that kid will be on loan for sure. We need someone to rotate with Higuain, he goes down we will be hurting. Mario is simply a freak of nature but even he needs a rest. Pjaca will take at least half a season to even be trusted regularly. We took our time with claudio we will do the same.

Fact is, we are making a $#@! ton of money and our team is already stacked so we are at the point where we buy players that will be an instant impact (Sanchez, for example).

Adding Sanchez & Mbappe would give us the most deadly attack IN MY OWN HONEST OPINION. Even better than Barca's. Sanchez/Mbappa/Cuadrado on his day/Dybala/Higuain is like a constant 90 minute blitzkrieg on a defenses lol

Instant impact players like you said is what we should be targeting to keep on that level. Bernadeschi isn't that unfortunately. Squad player yeah, great. But at €40m Nah. You're alright.

 

[DAiDEViL]

I'd be ok with keeping Asa & Licht for backup if it meant we solidified our attack:

1.) Mbappe** yao
2.) Schick
3.) Sanchez/Bernadeschi
4.) DS (would allow us to sell one of Asa or Licht so wouldn't hurt us financially all that much)

Higuain/Mbappe**
Sanchez/Mario - Dybala/Schick - Cuadrado/Pjaca​

**Hustini really wants Mbappe...haven't wanted a guy this much since G.Jesus last year. Reminds me of Henry a bit. Buffon also likes


Getting DS would pretty much fix our backup LB/RB solution for some time. Allegri likes and who the hell are we to judge the incredible Max? If he can get the best out of him we would be retarded to object. We bought Benatia...we are set for like a decade in the backline. Our midfield is ridiculous already and only playing 2 CM's I think we are still good, hopefully Khedira stays another year.

Fuck. Forgot about Becantor (spelling?) but that kid will be on loan for sure. We need someone to rotate with Higuain, he goes down we will be hurting. Mario is simply a freak of nature but even he needs a rest. Pjaca will take at least half a season to even be trusted regularly. We took our time with claudio we will do the same.

Fact is, we are making a shit ton of money and our team is already stacked so we are at the point where we buy players that will be an instant impact (Sanchez, for example).

Adding Sanchez & Mbappe would give us the most deadly attack IN MY OWN HONEST OPINION. Even better than Barca's. Sanchez/Mbappa/Cuadrado on his day/Dybala/Higuain is like a constant 90 minute blitzkrieg on a defenses lol

@Orgut