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Sjaban

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I'm more comfortable moving forward with the 4231 than the 352, it's way more fun and still defensively solid, not sure we'd have dominated Barca and Monaco with 352, even if we had a good midfielder added to our team.
I agree, but it is good to be flexible when it comes to formations. Allowing the team to adapt and apply to certain games/teams more easily with decent squad depth.
 

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pitbull

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I agree, but it is good to be flexible when it comes to formations. Allowing the team to adapt and apply to certain games/teams more easily with decent squad depth.
oh I agree, I just think that increasing numbers in attack with the likes of Schick and Bernardeschi is a priority if we want to continue with 4231, midfield duo is more or less covered with Pjanič, Khedira, Marchisio and Rincon, if we want to play 4312 Lemina and Sturaro are also there. a talented midfielder that could challenge for starting 11 would be nice, but we need attackers more, especially since Pjaca's injury.
 
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Can Bernardeschi play on Mandzukic's place in our team? Him and Schick? I don't think both will come.
If not maybe Cuadrado will be playing backwards when needed, cause he will never turn himself into a striker. He should be copy->pasting Dani Alves imho to have a longer stay in this squad. He should do what Valencia did for United.

I just don't see whom we'll be replacing Mandzukic with? Pjaca? Obviously everyone dreams of Mbappe, but they are talking big cash there.

Juventus have intensified contacts with Monaco pair and Manchester City targets Benjamin Mendy (22) and Fabinho (23). [Tuttosport]
Right team, lord let it be Fabihno and Mbappe! :beppe:
Mega deal, players exchange and so forth. Following in Henry and Trezeguet steps...:numnum:
 

Hydde

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We r in the same page. We need wingers and if we can find one who can also play Paulo role even better (like Sanchez), nevertheless it's amazing how underrate is Mandzo for some people when he's being so important right now for us... Except for doing some GK savings, he's doing almost everything in the last couple of months

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According typical EPL BS newspapers he's on the radar of everyone in Europe :lol::lol:

Merda should get him back
Im on the same page too. Now i know why i had a gridge against mandz before, and that was because i didnt liked him as a CF. He spent most of the time defending and setting up dybala. Whuch is ok, but as a CF the priority are goals!! Workload and assist are secondary. Since he was not a scoring machine i was not ok with him.

Now in his new position he can do what he likes the most which is to press and assist. Like some also said, he is big but he is technicaly very dependant, so even when he is not a speedster, he can be relied upon as a winger and im fine with this.

It seem bernardeshi and shick will come. I would like to see pjaca not getting loaned, in the meantime, bernardeschi can play the mandzu and dybala sub role.

I want to see more or mandragora. Betancour should be loaned.

Dsiglio would be a great addition.

Another sound DM would do if we sell lemina and sturaro maybe?

Mbappe is fantasy.
 

Bianconero81

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Mbappe is not impossible, but incredibly unlikely. I don't think he's leaving Monaco this summer anyway.

Conti, Fabinho, Bernardeschi, and Schick and I'll be happy... but first, we have a final to win :xfinger:
 

Orgut

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I used to buy the stereotype of the smarter than average jew, I guess the moral of the story is don't believe stereotypes.
First a player is worth whatever the market deems him to be worth. I hate Mino as much as the next guy, but he does have a great point - footballers, who seem absurdly rich to us, are just the easiest way to see value in real terms. There are people out there that buy those footballers, just like I am buying a sandwich - something for the day to do. They are buying moviestars, singers, models, etc. like they are on a promotion.
So if you think 100M Euros are a lot of money - you just don't get it. You cannot call a lot of money an average yearly bonuses for a few mid-level lackeys. They aren't owners, even if they are some CEOs they are an expensive hand-for-hire. Just like landowners did to labour before. Even if 99.9% of the population will never get to touch 100m in their lifetime, that is still not a lot of money - as a simple football transfer shows.
I understand the logic in the transfer as 100M and the player can also get you some shirts and etc
I understand the logic of the other one who said players worth what the market say
I just say its illogical to pay 100M for a football player its just immoral thing
Football is entertainment while there are much bigger things than football such as human health (finding cures for diseases and etc..)

Of course buying Mbappe for 130M could generate much more in the long run as the player is very young and could get you trophies+money from tournaments+money from advertising - in that sense its logical but it doesnt make it moral!

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Juventus have intensified contacts with Monaco pair and Manchester City targets Benjamin Mendy (22) and Fabinho (23). [Tuttosport]
good players - hope we get them
 

Osman

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Juventus have intensified contacts with Monaco pair and Manchester City targets Benjamin Mendy (22) and Fabinho (23). [Tuttosport]
That's when you know tuttosport is extra retarded. Mandy is too good and expensive for backup, unless we agreed to sell Sandro

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s4tch

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That's when you know tuttosport is extra retarded. Mandy is too good and expensive for backup, unless we agreed to sell Sandro

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they also wrote that we are after mendy only in case alex sandro wants to leave.

it's more likely that sandro renews his contract for some extra $$$.

fabinho, though :tuttosport:
 

Osman

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First 3 can be great backup players while last 3 are ok backup options.


Can't ask for much if we make that happen. Will need to get rid of Asamoah tho for DS and Spinazzola can take Mattielos pointless spot in the squad plus be extra winger option.


But I think the player and Marotta confirmed he isn't coming to Juve for next season.

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Xperd

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First 3 can be great backup players while last 3 are ok backup options.


Can't ask for much if we make that happen. Will need to get rid of Asamoah tho for DS and Spinazzola can take Mattielos pointless spot in the squad plus be extra winger option.


But I think the player and Marotta confirmed he isn't coming to Juve for next season.

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Berna will start for us imo. I'd start him ahead of Cuadrado for sure.

Fabinho will eventually be a starter too if we get him
 

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First 3 can be great backup players while last 3 are ok backup options.


Can't ask for much if we make that happen. Will need to get rid of Asamoah tho for DS and Spinazzola can take Mattielos pointless spot in the squad plus be extra winger option.


But I think the player and Marotta confirmed he isn't coming to Juve for next season.

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What's your take on him?

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Berna will start for us imo. I'd start him ahead of Cuadrado for sure.

Fabinho will eventually be a starter too if we get him
Of course. There's no way we'd end up paying silly money for some player just so we could bench him. He'd surely be in top 5-6 when it comes to minutes played.
 

Osman

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Initially they won't be starters, but Fabinho can be good enough to bench Khedira after a while, while Berna is well rounded enough winger to defenitely bench Cuadrado very quickly, but Allegri likes to be patient with young players so it might take a while. They will be luxury backup first.


Douchen, I'm not sure about Spinozzola, he is quick and has nice enough technique but not sure he is Juve backup level, he certainly doesn't think so himself. But it can be useful to have another naturally attacking fullback as Sandro substitute, atleast 3rd choice one since DS likely to be first choice.

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Xperd

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This Mercato is realistic.

Probably 5-6 players from current squad would have to leave.

And we would need more then 100 million to achieve that.
The summer we sold Vidal , we spent all the CL money we earned that year ~€92M on new signings prior to selling him.

This year we already made €128M from CL and possibly more if we go on to win it. I expect that would be our budget excluding any major sales.
 

Amer

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The summer we sold Vidal , we spent all the CL money we earned that year ~€92M on new signings prior to selling him.

This year we already made €128M from CL and possibly more if we go on to win it. I expect that would be our budget excluding any major sales.
I think we will only sell Lemina for about 20 million, to England. The rest will probably stay.

Marotta the other day said we're already moving on the market. Wouldn't be surprised if he already had some player in the bag. This time of year we always book a player.
 

Xperd

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Lichtsteiner
Asamoah
Neto
Lemina

4 players I expect to leave for sure. Mandzu is still a 50-50 to me despite him signing an extension.
 
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