Beppe is good at finding good deals, but sucks at negotiating (sales and purchases)
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While you have a point and I agree with it to some extent, you make it far too black and white.
And no we aren't weakening the team every summer like you have previously claimed. We had our best season post-calciopoli this year. So clearly something is working. We finished with more points, better goal differential, in both Serie A and CL, topped our group, dominated every team in the knockouts by 3+ goals on aggregate. We ended with the same result as 2014-15 so otensibly you could say the seasons were the same, even if this team was more convincing. But weakened overall as a team, from 14-15 to 16-17. Not a chance.
Sometimes players should be sold/allowed to move on. Tevez and Alves are both players with very high potential to be troublemakers in the locker room, and in Tevez's case, on the pitch, if they don't want to be playing somewhere. They were also in the very twilight of their careers. Tevez basically retired from top flight football to Argentina and now China. He was done. There is no point keeping a player like that, especially considering we had Dybala coming in, and Mandzukic for that mater. We were covered there. Same deal with Alves this year, though it will be extremely disappointing if management doesn't sign a better replacement than de Sciglio.
Vidal and Pogba is where our management screwed up. Because our revenue is nowhere near the teams we are trying to compete with, one of the two had to be sold in all reality to finance the massive upgrades we have made to our attack and wide players. However, the management made a terrible decision in choosing Pogba to stay in summer 2015, as a player so obsessed with image and social media appearance never going to be content in a smaller, quieter market like Italy, and with the reputation Serie A has in the footballing world right now. We should have sold Pogba that summer, even if it meant we only got 90 mil instead of 100 mil. And offered Vidal to be our top-paid player on a long term contract. We could have easily handled the loss of 40 mil revenue from Vidal's sale, and would be the strongest team in football imo with him added to this team. Add to that, we wouldn't have had to buy Rincon, so that 40 mil drops to 30mil lost revenue.
It was a terrible decision, especially considering the rumours are that Beppe and co pushed Vidal out, that it wasn't him who came to us asking to leave, but Beppe and co presenting him with Bayern Munich offer instead of a contract extension.
We received enough money from Pogba that we were able to strengthen the team massively last summer... the problem is that we'd sold Vidal for a paltry sum the summer before that was never going to allow us to replace him adequately and we are still suffering from that.
And no we aren't weakening the team every summer like you have previously claimed. We had our best season post-calciopoli this year. So clearly something is working. We finished with more points, better goal differential, in both Serie A and CL, topped our group, dominated every team in the knockouts by 3+ goals on aggregate. We ended with the same result as 2014-15 so otensibly you could say the seasons were the same, even if this team was more convincing. But weakened overall as a team, from 14-15 to 16-17. Not a chance.
Sometimes players should be sold/allowed to move on. Tevez and Alves are both players with very high potential to be troublemakers in the locker room, and in Tevez's case, on the pitch, if they don't want to be playing somewhere. They were also in the very twilight of their careers. Tevez basically retired from top flight football to Argentina and now China. He was done. There is no point keeping a player like that, especially considering we had Dybala coming in, and Mandzukic for that mater. We were covered there. Same deal with Alves this year, though it will be extremely disappointing if management doesn't sign a better replacement than de Sciglio.
Vidal and Pogba is where our management screwed up. Because our revenue is nowhere near the teams we are trying to compete with, one of the two had to be sold in all reality to finance the massive upgrades we have made to our attack and wide players. However, the management made a terrible decision in choosing Pogba to stay in summer 2015, as a player so obsessed with image and social media appearance never going to be content in a smaller, quieter market like Italy, and with the reputation Serie A has in the footballing world right now. We should have sold Pogba that summer, even if it meant we only got 90 mil instead of 100 mil. And offered Vidal to be our top-paid player on a long term contract. We could have easily handled the loss of 40 mil revenue from Vidal's sale, and would be the strongest team in football imo with him added to this team. Add to that, we wouldn't have had to buy Rincon, so that 40 mil drops to 30mil lost revenue.
It was a terrible decision, especially considering the rumours are that Beppe and co pushed Vidal out, that it wasn't him who came to us asking to leave, but Beppe and co presenting him with Bayern Munich offer instead of a contract extension.
We received enough money from Pogba that we were able to strengthen the team massively last summer... the problem is that we'd sold Vidal for a paltry sum the summer before that was never going to allow us to replace him adequately and we are still suffering from that.
Well, he sometimes does tbh 
We should be looking for a quality CM, but it seems we're more interested in a CB acquisition. WTF?! Caldara can be recalled in January, and we have Chiellini, Rugani, Barza, and Benatia. 5 CBs for two positions is more than enough. What's the point of keeping Rugani and acquiring Caldara for a substantial sum, if we aren't going to trust them. Save that 20-30 million, and put it towards buying a top quality CM, as opposed to the shit names being mentioned.
We should be looking for a quality CM, but it seems we're more interested in a CB acquisition. WTF?! Caldara can be recalled in January, and we have Chiellini, Rugani, Barza, and Benatia. 5 CBs for two positions is more than enough. What's the point of keeping Rugani and acquiring Caldara for a substantial sum, if we aren't going to trust them. Save that 20-30 million, and put it towards buying a top quality CM, as opposed to the shit names being mentioned.
I will never forgive Beppe for selling Vidal, and to a lesser extent Bonucci. Pogba is a money dabbing ho, all about image and the spotlight, so he was bound to leave sooner or later. Maybe, just maybe, in 15 years when this pathetic league called Serie A gets its shit together, we can aspire to retain our best players, and get those meaningful and lucrative contracts/endorsements/sponsorship deals.
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