Summer Mercato season 2024-25 (65 Viewers)

[Robee]

Summary: Just as if nothing was said before, no reason to worry about targeting injury prone players because we shouldn’t judge human beings on medical situations, no red flags, no indication of anything, just that some work out while some not, so basically back to what i’ve been saying, you are playing it down and invoking whatever nonsense you can come up with on the spot just to move away from the main point…

Once again, there is no negativity in pointing out the obvious, there is every reason to be concerned about players coming off long injury setbacks, even more so when we’ve been struggling with injury crises for multiple years in a row.

Nope, again. You're just making stuff up to sound interisting or you're just not that good at reading, Alin. Bye.

 

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[juve123]

Important meeting and contacts underway between Juventus and Atalanta to close for Koopmeiners (@Seby_Sarno_)

 

[Stevie]

Important meeting and contacts underway between Juventus and Atalanta to close for Koopmeiners (@Seby_Sarno_)

Jeeze haven't heard that before.. this feels like groundhog day

 

[RKid1]

Jeeze haven't heard that before.. this feels like groundhog day

"Giuntoli hopes to close the deal as early as next week"

 

[Stevie]

Giuntoli is all fart and no shit.

 

[Alin]

Nope, again. You're just making stuff up to sound interisting or you're just not that good at reading, Alin. Bye.

I’m glad you decided to give up on it, which is very unlike you tbh, we can agree to disagree after all but truth is i am not making anything up and just trying to help you be a bit more aware of your delusional positivity when it comes to injury prone players that we are linked with. Cheers.

 

[Robee]

I’m glad you decided to give up on it, which is very unlike you tbh, we can agree to disagree after all but truth is i am not making anything up and just trying to help you be a bit more aware of your delusional positivity when it comes to injury prone players that we are linked with. Cheers.

Well, I guess you chose: If you aren't making it up, you're just bad at reading. Never said there wasn't any (higher) risk. On the contrary... Yet, you keep trying to read that between the lines. Just trying to help be a bit more aware not everything about having an injury is pitchblack all the time. And no idd, I don't stop if people continue putting words in my mouth. But that's Tuz for ya. No room for any middle ground whatsoever. Hint: 99% of the time, there lies reality.

Now find me a quote where I said he does not have a higher risk or stop creating your own brain twists please.

 

[Alin]

Well, I guess you chose: If you aren't making it up, you're just bad at reading. Never said there wasn't any (higher) risk. On the contrary... Yet, you keep trying to read that between the lines. Just trying to help be a bit more aware not everything about having an injury is pitchblack all the time. And no idd, I don't stop if people continue putting words in my mouth. But that's Tuz for ya. No room for any middle ground whatsoever. Hint: 99% of the time, there lies reality.

Now find me a quote where I said he does not have a higher risk or stop creating your own brain twists please.

Literally every post you’ve replied to here just confirms everything i’ve been saying, why would i even bother looking elsewhere to quote you, i probably underestimated how much in a denial you are, nobody said it’s all doom and gloom, yet when someone points to injury risks you play it down and argue about how it’s hardly something to worry about and that past repetitive injuries is not an indication of anything.

 

[Robee]

Literally every post you’ve replied to here just confirms everything i’ve been saying, why would i even bother looking elsewhere to quote you, i probably underestimated how much in a denial you are, nobody said it’s all doom and gloom, yet when someone points to injury risks you play it down and argue about how it’s hardly something to worry about and that past repetitive injuries is not an indication of anything.

No it doesn't... And that's why you can't even quote a sentence.

Repetitive injuries do bring a higher risk. And no one has ever denied that.

 

[Osman]

You guys realise this is the summer transfer thread and not the be uber semantic about injuries thread, right? Right?

 

[Alin]

No it doesn't... And that's why you can't even quote a sentence.

I can play the same game you know... why don’t you go ahead and quote yourself from the Kalulu thread and maybe try to comprehend what you are babbling about there, because in essence it’s pretty much exactly what i’ve been describing here.

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You guys realise this is the summer transfer thread and not the be uber semantic about injuries thread, right? Right?

Fair enough.

 

[Robee]

I can play the same game you know... why don’t you go ahead and quote yourself from the Kalulu thread and maybe try to comprehend what you are babbling about there, because in essence it’s pretty much exactly what i’ve been describing here.

You said "and that's from last season only". Yes, true. But there are basically none further which is important info you're leaving out. Which is what I call framing.

Can't separate those three. Not recovering well may very well (or may not) have caused the one injury after the other. If he has played for 2 months in between for instance, that would be difficult to say. So that might be interesting to look at. But as always, as keyboard warriors, we can not judge it with an incomplete picture. We can only call it a risk.

There you go, pal. Literally calling it a risk, saying it's hard to judge with that limited info.

 

[juve123]

Unfortunate state of affairs at tuz when injuries are being discussed in transfer thread.

 

[Robee]

Unfortunate state of affairs at tuz when injuries are being discussed in transfer thread.

We need a new transfer to get over this shit. In or out, doesn't matter much. But he can't go by the name Kalulu or there will be too much provoking shit.

And this guy better stay fit for the rest of the decade!

 

[Alin]

There you go, pal. Literally calling it a risk, saying it's hard to judge with that limited info.

Calling it a risk after simultaneously talking about hardly seeing any reason to worry or concern about it because the risks are there for just about everyone after all, calling members out for supposedly ‘framing’ the player as being a risk of not being available more often than not when he is coming of a season of multiple long injuries as if the years before were more relevant, and it goes on and on…

That’s your logic, not mine, and is the reason why we are having this discussion.

 

[Robee]

Calling it a risk after simultaneously talking about hardly seeing any reason to worry or concern about it because the risks are there for just about everyone after all, calling members out for supposedly ‘framing’ the player as being a risk of not being available more often than not when he is coming of a season of multiple long injuries as if the years before were more relevant, and it goes on and on…

That’s your logic, not mine, and is the reason why we are having this discussion.

It was framing. You literally chose to ignore all of the injury free seasons.

And I did not say I did not see any reason for concern there. Freedom of speech does not include putting words in my mouth. Read it properly; it literally says "may or may not".

You're one of the good ones, Alin. You don't simply ignore shit like some do but that's not what I wrote. There is a higher risk than when he wouldn't have had those 3 injuries but there's also a chance he bounces back. Where we don't agree probably, is how high that chance is and it's impossible to say; even after a screening. After all, it's not exact science. I'll leave it at that. Now let's hope he stays fit, wherever he may end up btw.

 

[Alin]

It was framing. You literally chose to ignore all of the injury free seasons.

Because those were more relevant right? My whole argument at that time was about what kind of player will we get after a season of multiple long injuries and that he is more likely to repeat that season than he is the ones before.

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We need a new transfer to get over this shit. In or out, doesn't matter much. But he can't go by the name Kalulu or there will be too much provoking shit.

And this guy better stay fit for the rest of the decade!

It’s you who engaged me on it, and as i pointed before it’s hardly a singular case with you, there’s a long list of threads where you’ve let loose this type of nothing to worry about nonsense regarding injury prone players that we’ve been linked with over the years.

 

[Robee]

Because those were more relevant right? My whole argument at that time was about what kind of player will we get after a season of multiple long injuries and that he is more likely to repeat that season than he is the ones before.

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It’s you who engaged me on it, and as i pointed before it’s hardly a singular case with you, there’s a long list of threads where you’ve let loose this type of nothing to worry about nonsense regarding injury prone players that we’ve been linked with over the years.

 

[Alin]

And I did not say I did not see any reason for concern there. Freedom of speech does not include putting words in my mouth. Read it properly; it literally says "may or may not

You're one of the good ones, Alin. You don't simply ignore shit like some do but that's not what I wrote. There is a higher risk than when he wouldn't have had those 3 injuries but there's also a chance he bounces back. Where we don't agree probably, is how high that chance is and it's impossible to say; even after a screening. After all, it's not exact science. I'll leave it at that. Now let's hope he stays fit, wherever he may end up btw.

It’s actually a bit amusing how unaware you are of the way it comes across at times, bringing up into discussion everything from medical screens, doctors, sports science all the way to his recent or repetitive injuries being hardly an indication of what is to follow despite you acknowledging it as being a risk etc, just about anything to justify that an injury prone is not more likely to not be available most often than not…

But anyway, let’s just agree to disagree, i might’ve exaggerated myself a bit on some points to trigger you on the subject, but no hard feelings, just as you i’d be glad if he can stay fit and turns out good once he gets here.

 

[juve123]

Teun Koopmeiners to Juventus, it's going to happen. We won't say it's just a matter of time, as we've been discussing this story since January 10th, but the ending is nearly written. It wasn't supposed to be a saga, but it has turned into one due to Atalanta keeping a firm position.The deal is closer to 60 million euros than 55 million euros.

@AlfredoPedulla

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Conceicao wants to join Juventus, and Porto is willing to let him go, but only on their terms, with the deal expected to be worth more than 30mln€. Delaying the deal, could allow other clubs (including those from Saudi Arabia) to step in.

@AlfredoPedulla