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Yes. I said base on that match only. I can see why Motta values him. Super versatile, can play CB, DM, CM, AM, hardworking and has good final ball. He can be a glue upfront, runs around to help connect things.
If Motta values versatile and playing for others more than technical, then I guess Koop can be the best player in Serie A in his view.
If Motta values versatile and playing for others more than technical, then I guess Koop can be the best player in Serie A in his view.
You already answer your own question, we decided it is better to sell Soule than to sell Bremer, case closed
For Douglas Luiz it is not the case if in the next 2 or 3 years we can sell him for more than 50m or at least 50m we can still coup profits in that way(because the more years we amortized him the more profit we can coup from his transfer value) same as Koopmeiners. If both are proven to become players with 70-80m valuation in 2-3 years then all the loss when we sell Soule will be covered easily. There are no guarantee that Soule can become a top player too, I will take the gamble on Douglas Luiz and Koop in heart beat even if I need to sacrifica Soule
I think with our buying of 26 years old players that already proven plot as our big signings and use the money from Soule to finance it means we are really want to stabilize our stature in and off the pitch simultanously. Those players still have resale value and with our "more attractive" football hopefully we can sell them at least the same amount we buy them and reinvest later
For Douglas Luiz it is not the case if in the next 2 or 3 years we can sell him for more than 50m or at least 50m we can still coup profits in that way(because the more years we amortized him the more profit we can coup from his transfer value) same as Koopmeiners. If both are proven to become players with 70-80m valuation in 2-3 years then all the loss when we sell Soule will be covered easily. There are no guarantee that Soule can become a top player too, I will take the gamble on Douglas Luiz and Koop in heart beat even if I need to sacrifica Soule
I think with our buying of 26 years old players that already proven plot as our big signings and use the money from Soule to finance it means we are really want to stabilize our stature in and off the pitch simultanously. Those players still have resale value and with our "more attractive" football hopefully we can sell them at least the same amount we buy them and reinvest later
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De Ligt was very young, came off of one excellent season and landed with a huge signing on fee and wages that we would never be able to maintain for his next contract renewal.
Vlahovic came off the back of 1.5 excellent seasons, but was clearly raw and brought in on a high exponential wage.
Chiesa came off the back of a couple of decent seasons as a promising Italian player on a decent salary with large deferred fees.
The Higuain thing is a lie, he delivered in the majority of domestic league and cup games. The only big game for Juventus he was average in to my memory was the Cardiff final, but there were many worse players that day.
Yes Koop is overvalued at 60m, even by current transfer fees, but he’s produced consistently in the league for the past two years, is 26 and by reported figures would be joining on a reasonable wage.
Therefore, there are minimal similarities between these others transfers you mention, other than maybe Higuain where you are expecting end product, high fee, bringing in at the prime and not expecting to recoup a fee at the end, and even then we are bringing in Koop 2 years younger.
Unless of course you deem a ‘mistake’ to simply be paying a large transfer fee, in which case we should fill the squad with mediocrity or prospects at 20 million and continue playing for a 4th place trophy year on year by your logic. (Kind of like Milan’s strategy)
Vlahovic came off the back of 1.5 excellent seasons, but was clearly raw and brought in on a high exponential wage.
Chiesa came off the back of a couple of decent seasons as a promising Italian player on a decent salary with large deferred fees.
The Higuain thing is a lie, he delivered in the majority of domestic league and cup games. The only big game for Juventus he was average in to my memory was the Cardiff final, but there were many worse players that day.
Yes Koop is overvalued at 60m, even by current transfer fees, but he’s produced consistently in the league for the past two years, is 26 and by reported figures would be joining on a reasonable wage.
Therefore, there are minimal similarities between these others transfers you mention, other than maybe Higuain where you are expecting end product, high fee, bringing in at the prime and not expecting to recoup a fee at the end, and even then we are bringing in Koop 2 years younger.
Unless of course you deem a ‘mistake’ to simply be paying a large transfer fee, in which case we should fill the squad with mediocrity or prospects at 20 million and continue playing for a 4th place trophy year on year by your logic. (Kind of like Milan’s strategy)
I don't say they are/were not quality players, the point is we did overpay for them. Higuain was brought here when we won Scudetto 7 times in a row with the most goals scored in each season However, we had a problem scoring goals in the CL , two goals in two finals is proof of that. but scoring statistics actually shows he scored against weak opponents, i think it was just not worth paying 90m for him. Morata did similiar work for much less. 70m was so much for both of De ligt and Chiesa you can't justify it, the injury track records caused them to spent a lot of time out of squad, when you pay 70m for a player you expect him to be available
Wait, what? Higuain scored against all the big teams...? Milan, Roma, Inter, Napoli...
Some transfers just don't pan out. Physical, tactical, mental issues, form, luck, etc. Can't expect them all to be spot on and if you want a certain type of players sometimes you just have to splash some cash. If they fail, yes, it hurts more. But there's no building a team of the level we were (and want to be) without spending big once and a while. Whether Koop is the right choice to overspend or not, don't know. We'll see...
Some transfers just don't pan out. Physical, tactical, mental issues, form, luck, etc. Can't expect them all to be spot on and if you want a certain type of players sometimes you just have to splash some cash. If they fail, yes, it hurts more. But there's no building a team of the level we were (and want to be) without spending big once and a while. Whether Koop is the right choice to overspend or not, don't know. We'll see...
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