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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Erik ten Hag has spoken to Adrien Rabiot in recent weeks to try and convince him to join Manchester United. With Rabiot a free agent this summer, United want to get a deal finalised as soon as possible.

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all i want is that deal to be finalized after juve played all of his matches. after that rabiot can go back to being shit with a fat contract under his belt for all i care
 

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Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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There's no reason to be triggered by what Frattesi said. A few years ago Cristante said the exactl same thing.

If Frattesi got a chance to sign for Juve, he'd walk by foot to Turin, I'm pretty sure of that.
Exactly. So stupid to judge him based on that comment.

Who doesn't want to play in the PL these days
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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Have no fear Giuntoli is here :seven:
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A list of all record departures with transfermarkt valuations (yeah transfermarkt valuations lol)

I couldn't filter the list for 2015 when Giuntoli joined Napoli, but only Koulibaly and Jorginho are (green) TM plusvalenza. I won't give him credit for Higgy, as we all know Napoli had no involvement.

The rest according to TM were a loss.

Not the best way to evaluate but just a perspective.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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A list of all record departures with transfermarkt valuations (yeah transfermarkt valuations lol)

I couldn't filter the list for 2015 when Giuntoli joined Napoli, but only Koulibaly and Jorginho are (green) TM plusvalenza. I won't give him credit for Higgy, as we all know Napoli had no involvement.

The rest according to TM were a loss.

Not the best way to evaluate but just a perspective.
plusvalenza isn't calculated based on transfer cost and transfer revenue though. it's the difference between transfer revenue and book value (amortized transfer cost). most of those were plusvalenza, and even insigne wasn't minusvalenza since his contract expired
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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plusvalenza isn't calculated based on transfer cost and transfer revenue though. it's the difference between transfer revenue and book value (amortized transfer cost). most of those were plusvalenza, and even insigne wasn't minusvalenza since his contract expired
Wrong use of word, I stand corrected. TM profit is what i was getting at, again not the best of evaluations and likelihood is ADL probably did the negotations as Giuntoli is just a yes man. Oh im just digging myself a hole now :D
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Wrong use of word, I stand corrected. TM profit is what i was getting at, again not the best of evaluations and likelihood is ADL probably did the negotations as Giuntoli is just a yes man. Oh im just digging myself a hole now :D
haha love you man

point is that tm values mean nothing. in that sense all of our shitty freebies were huge wins (we got them well below their reported market value, right?), and the last freebie that actually worked out pretty well was khedira in '15
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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A list of all record departures with transfermarkt valuations (yeah transfermarkt valuations lol)

I couldn't filter the list for 2015 when Giuntoli joined Napoli, but only Koulibaly and Jorginho are (green) TM plusvalenza. I won't give him credit for Higgy, as we all know Napoli had no involvement.

The rest according to TM were a loss.

Not the best way to evaluate but just a perspective.
Let's be honest those marotta lovers still trying to justify the sale of a world class vidal at 30 mill

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Meanwhile on VS...

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Dafuq is he? Some 13 year old boy living in his mum's basement?
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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The 'guru' is considered reliable. The SMS rumor makes more sense because another one said that Arthur is already looking around and a very likely option for him would be a loan to Lazio, because Sarri likes him a lot. Obviously Juve would have to pay the majority of his salary but perhaps he's the bargaining chip for SMS?
Another (obvious) name is Pellegrini, Lazio want to keep him. Then, Sarri wants Rovella and Kulusevski. So there are a lot of names thrown around but one thing is for sure: Lazio have no money to do a proper 'mercato' and they absolutely are losing SMS, whom they need to replace somehow.

It seems to me a bit far fetched to think SMS is very close to us, considering the off-field issues and incoming management revolution. Then, it's probably clear by now that Rabiot won't stay, no matter what.
 

juve123

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The 'guru' is considered reliable. The SMS rumor makes more sense because another one said that Arthur is already looking around and a very likely option for him would be a loan to Lazio, because Sarri likes him a lot. Obviously Juve would have to pay the majority of his salary but perhaps he's the bargaining chip for SMS?
Another (obvious) name is Pellegrini, Lazio want to keep him. Then, Sarri wants Rovella and Kulusevski. So there are a lot of names thrown around but one thing is for sure: Lazio have no money to do a proper 'mercato' and they absolutely are losing SMS, whom they need to replace somehow.

It seems to me a bit far fetched to think SMS is very close to us, considering the off-field issues and incoming management revolution. Then, it's probably clear by now that Rabiot won't stay, no matter what.
So who is making the decision to sign him since no sporting director is there? Allegri.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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ideally i'd keep loca, fagioli, miretti, rovella, sign sergej and some surprise like mikel merino

realistically we'd still have pogba, maybe zak, won't sign a surprise player, and will shit bricks to get rid of the rest
 

Knowah

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ideally i'd keep loca, fagioli, miretti, rovella, sign sergej and some surprise like mikel merino

realistically we'd still have pogba, maybe zak, won't sign a surprise player, and will shit bricks to get rid of the rest
Arthur > sell
Zakaria > sell
Kulusevski > sell
McKennie > sell
Rovella > keep
Rabiot > let walk
Miretti > loan
Pogba > what can we do?
Locatelli > keep
Fagioli > keep
Paredes > let walk, loan expired
Ranocchia > loan
 
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Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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Aren't they 4th place, which is a CL spot? Liverpool is 5th but played a match more.
Yes but it's pretty tight still and it's not like Man utd are showing consistency right now

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The 'guru' is considered reliable. The SMS rumor makes more sense because another one said that Arthur is already looking around and a very likely option for him would be a loan to Lazio, because Sarri likes him a lot. Obviously Juve would have to pay the majority of his salary but perhaps he's the bargaining chip for SMS?
Another (obvious) name is Pellegrini, Lazio want to keep him. Then, Sarri wants Rovella and Kulusevski. So there are a lot of names thrown around but one thing is for sure: Lazio have no money to do a proper 'mercato' and they absolutely are losing SMS, whom they need to replace somehow.

It seems to me a bit far fetched to think SMS is very close to us, considering the off-field issues and incoming management revolution. Then, it's probably clear by now that Rabiot won't stay, no matter what.
Sarri wants kulu and rovella? Give them bumucci and sandro
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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Miretti goes out on loan, Fagiot fucks off to the Red Cunts (cunt player for a cunt team - match made in heaven), Parepiss pisses off back to Paris where he becomes their problem, and that means we're 3 mids down already. Arturd and McNuggets have no business wearing the Juventus shirt, so we send the chronically injured Lolzilian to some fuckers willing to take him, and perhaps McNuggets finds some mid-tier EPL scum to acquire him. I'd keep Zak because he doesn't earn much and isn't a liability, but I am sure we will find a solution there too (he's the easiest of the bunch to find a team for).

That ultimately leaves us with Locatelli, Fagioli, Pogba (maybe), and Rovella. Yes, we definitely need one or two mids because Pogba can't be relied on, Miretti isn't ready, Fagioli is too inconsistent, and Fagioli is still developing.
 
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