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Adrian

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When a left back is so crucial we look at a right back who is inferior to the two we currently have.

Id take traore and locatelli if it meant offloading ramsey and rabiot. However it still leaves us without a quality B2B e.g Aoaur.
 

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Gigiventus

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Why the fuck would we need Bellerin? We already have a logjam at RB with Danilo and Cuadrado, with both deserving of starting. Gosens should be the focus. Or can we bring back Spinazzola? God I hated that move then, and even more now.
Spinazzola would be so good in our current setup. HIs last two seasons seem to have him gotten past his injuries troubles. Now he is a key player for Roma and an ideal LWB for Pirlo's system.

That deal is really not looking good in hindsight.

We should at least bring back Luca P though, he is worth a shot and is only 21. Looked very good for Cagliari and Roma, less so for a poor Genoa but at least he was their LWB starter until his injury.

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He took some games to settle but now is having an excellent season. No brainer move from Atalanta. At this rate Romero will attract interest from every big team looking for a CB. His style as a hard tackler physical CB in the center of a back 3 is pretty comfortable I would say. In a back two its less clear that he would keep this level.
 
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s4tch

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That deal is really not looking good in hindsight.
it always looked retarted. spina had issues with positioning, but going forward, he always was a very good player, and we were always short of homegrown guys. he could have been a very solid squad player and a decent impact sub for 10 years. he also looked loyal and i think he really felt honored by the opportunity to wear the jersey. fucking idiotic move.

pellegrini is half the player unfortunately, especially in the attacking phase. he'd probably be slightly better than frabotta, but we should do better than these.
 

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Yes please. Him and Locatelli would be perfect.

I remember when Sassuolo signed Traore there was a lot of talk of synergy with Juve. The kind of deal that would have been a co-ownership in the past. I hope it's true and we take advantage of it. This is one ultra hyped football family.

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it always looked retarted. spina had issues with positioning, but going forward, he always was a very good player, and we were always short of homegrown guys. he could have been a very solid squad player and a decent impact sub for 10 years. he also looked loyal and i think he really felt honored by the opportunity to wear the jersey. fucking idiotic move.

pellegrini is half the player unfortunately, especially in the attacking phase. he'd probably be slightly better than frabotta, but we should do better than these.
Pellegriini is a lot better than Frabotta. Frabotta is pretty poor all things considered while Luca has been hyped his whole life.
 
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Yes please. Him and Locatelli would be perfect.

I remember when Sassuolo signed Traore there was a lot of talk of synergy with Juve. The kind of deal that would have been a co-ownership in the past. I hope it's true and we take advantage of it. This is one ultra hyped football family.

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Pellegriini is a lot better than Frabotta. Frabotta is pretty poor all things considered while Luca has been hyped his whole life.

His agent (bottom left) said it in this video. Starting from 5:16. It’s the second time he comes out like this, look to me like a done deal tbh. And someone we could use

Im afraid that Sassuolo want something in return (Fagioli, maybe Ranocchia, Dragusin or Correia) if we’re going for Locatelli and Traore

It reminds me a bit of the Mandragora rumors a year ago, they were similar and sources like TuttoJuve already said we would buy him. Traore’s agent is certainly pushing for this move.

I also remember a few year ago they we worked together with Sassuolo to bring him there. With Demiral we probably did the same thing, although it stayed under the radar.
 

s4tch

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Pellegriini is a lot better than Frabotta. Frabotta is pretty poor all things considered while Luca has been hyped his whole life.
if you suggest that pellegrini is a lot more talented than frabotta, then i agree. but he's so inconsistent that it's not even funny. pellegrini started last season on a high, had a couple of good games and some assists too, but faded into mediocrity after a couple of months. this season, he never really switched into a higher gear, just been bang average every single time i watched genoa. a player who can't show his worth week in, week out isn't miles better than someone who's consistently average.
 
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if you suggest that pellegrini is a lot more talented than frabotta, then i agree. but he's so inconsistent that it's not even funny. pellegrini started last season on a high, had a couple of good games and some assists too, but faded into mediocrity after a couple of months. this season, he never really switched into a higher gear, just been bang average every single time i watched genoa. a player who can't show his worth week in, week out isn't miles better than someone who's consistently average.
Yes I can confirm what you’re saying about last year. I didn’t see a lot Genoa this year, but he started great last season with Cagliari. All of them had a good start, with Joao Pedro leading the pack. After a great start they went in a dip and it ultimately led to Maran getting sacked.

It’s mostly the defensive phase in which he was struggling. Quite good offensively, his passing needed to improve.
 

LiquidPLP

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if you suggest that pellegrini is a lot more talented than frabotta, then i agree. but he's so inconsistent that it's not even funny. pellegrini started last season on a high, had a couple of good games and some assists too, but faded into mediocrity after a couple of months. this season, he never really switched into a higher gear, just been bang average every single time i watched genoa. a player who can't show his worth week in, week out isn't miles better than someone who's consistently average.
Frabotta is even worse. Probably it's only right to say that neither is good enough for Juve. The financial situation forces us to stick to guys like them tho.
 

Gigiventus

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if you suggest that pellegrini is a lot more talented than frabotta, then i agree. but he's so inconsistent that it's not even funny. pellegrini started last season on a high, had a couple of good games and some assists too, but faded into mediocrity after a couple of months. this season, he never really switched into a higher gear, just been bang average every single time i watched genoa. a player who can't show his worth week in, week out isn't miles better than someone who's consistently average.
In general Luca's bad games aren't worse than Frabotta's usual level though. He has a higher bottom and a higher ceiling. As back up, I prefer our 21yo LB to be Pellegrini rather than Frabotta. The first shows a lot more potential at the moment.
 

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In an online report, Bild state that Haaland is only appealed by six clubs across the world, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Manchester United, Man City and Liverpool.
It's pretty much the clubs I expected him to be linked to, the "top clubs" that are not Bayern.
 

s4tch

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In general Luca's bad games aren't worse than Frabotta's usual level though. He has a higher bottom and a higher ceiling. As back up, I prefer our 21yo LB to be Pellegrini rather than Frabotta. The first shows a lot more potential at the moment.
frabotta is less likely to screw something up very badly, and offers next to nothing in attack, pellegrini can at least cross and will assist 1-2 goals, but is much more likely to cost you in defense. pick your poison. :boh:

also, pellegrini earns ~1,5m, frabotta like 1-200k, don't remember exactly, and their book value/amortization isn't really comparable either.

i'd rather pick neither, try to sell both and throw that money (and some) on atalanta for gosens. too bad no club will buy for actual cash nowadays.
 

Gigiventus

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frabotta is less likely to screw something up very badly, and offers next to nothing in attack, pellegrini can at least cross and will assist 1-2 goals, but is much more likely to cost you in defense. pick your poison. :boh:

also, pellegrini earns ~1,5m, frabotta like 1-200k, don't remember exactly, and their book value/amortization isn't really comparable either.

i'd rather pick neither, try to sell both and throw that money (and some) on atalanta for gosens. too bad no club will buy for actual cash nowadays.
I think we should definitely go for Gosens as well, but as a replacement to Alex Sandro, not to Frabotta/Pellegrini. A starter and a back up at LB.
 

Hust

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frabotta is less likely to screw something up very badly, and offers next to nothing in attack, pellegrini can at least cross and will assist 1-2 goals, but is much more likely to cost you in defense. pick your poison. :boh:

also, pellegrini earns ~1,5m, frabotta like 1-200k, don't remember exactly, and their book value/amortization isn't really comparable either.

i'd rather pick neither, try to sell both and throw that money (and some) on atalanta for gosens. too bad no club will buy for actual cash nowadays.
I'd take the defender that can defend better, improve the midfield in front of LB and that will help the team be more effective on the left flank. Useless if we get a LB that is worse at defending when they still have a shitty midfield . That's a double shot to the face.

Frabotta is cheaper, homegrown but I agree about Gosens. If it were up to me I'd sell Sandro like yesterday, use that money to either get Gosens (plan A) or try to get Pellegrini back (Plan B). Gosens seems the most logical thing to do. Sandro's gotta go.

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@Mark - Can we still bring Romero back? What other CB's we have in the loan/co-own/option to bring back purgatory?

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It's nice having 2 young CBs but I'm greedy. I want 3 mustangs at the back.

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It's pretty much the clubs I expected him to be linked to, the "top clubs" that are not Bayern.
Do we have any good young CBs that are interesting and worth trying out in our U23s besides Dragusin?
 
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