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Kopanja

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The reason why I like FV is because of his passing & vision...makes up for his pace. We have enough pace up front already IMO..
Idk man, Allegri loves to play quick vertical football. It doesn't always work in Seria A, cause small teams just park the bus, but in CL it worked perfectly. Tevez-Morata+sometimes Pogba or Pereyra counters were our main weapon against decent teams. And Vasques won't offer much in this kind of situation.
Vidal was bad as AM, really bad, don't really know how many times potentially good attack was screwed because of the Arturo brainfart pass. But he was really good at pressing and chasing opponents down. Vasquez is not good at this either. He is a good player, poor-man's Pastore, but he IMHO just doesn't fit in Max football.
 

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Hust

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i dont know what to expect from the Draxler situation. not sure what their demands are, or what we were offering, but Schalke seems to stubborn and dont want to lower their demands, and we obviously wont pay 35M or more for him. id like to see what City, United, PSG or Chelsea do for the rest of the mercato and wait if one of their players to become available.

id like Vazquez, would be a good rotation option for upfront, but i dont think Zamparini would sell for a good price. can see him asking 25M for him easily. i also think he would do well, but wouldnt like to see him starting in CL KO games for us. too slow and static for my taste
Well, if rumors are true, we already had agreed a deal with HIM but not the club then hopefully the llorente sale gives us enough to throw down the 35m for his release clause and be done with it.

I think Beppe was testing the waters first and knows now what to expect. It wasn't like dealing with Zamp when you already sorta know how to handle him. We haven't dealt with Schalke before so who knows.

Maybe send Coman down to Palermo on loan to get us in the 12-15m range for FZ..wouldn't be a bad idea I don't think. I hate loans but FV would get us moving forward in attack.
 

zizinho

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Agree with everything except Vazquez part. He is IMHO Valeron-kind of player (who was genius btw) – slow pace, great technic and vision, need some time to make a decision (often brilliant one, but nevertheless) and not so good in pressing. It would work in Seria A, but not in CL IMHO. Pereyra would do better.
:agree:
 

Badass J Elkann

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Again. How on earth do you make it to the negotiating table of our club so often to know every detail behind every single decision. Fascinating.
it's common fact that siqueira requested time to think about the offers from both psg and Juve and again common fact that PSG were offering than us in terms of wages. Now that Siqueira seems destined to join Juve PSG have turned their attention to kurzawa. Again the club fucked up with their penny pinching tactics

but of course I'd expect you to deny it
 

Hust

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Idk man, Allegri loves to play quick vertical football. It doesn't always work in Seria A, cause small teams just park the bus, but in CL it worked perfectly. Tevez-Morata+sometimes Pogba or Pereyra counters were our main weapon against decent teams. And Vasques won't offer much in this kind of situation.
Vidal was bad as AM, really bad, don't really know how many times potentially good attack was screwed because of the Arturo brainfart pass. But he was really good at pressing and chasing opponents down. Vasquez is not good at this either. He is a good player, poor-man's Pastore, but he IMHO just doesn't fit in Max football.
The bus comment: perfect for the likes of FV because he made a season of unlocking those defenses with Dybala. I agree about the CL part. Pereyra it is. He can play in midfield for the domestic league but switch to AM for CL if injuries persist.

I've always said I hated Vidal at AM and as the season progressed we saw him get back to his old self but still playing AM. If we can make it that far with Vidal & Pereyra I am confident we will be OK this season.
 

Hust

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it's common fact that siqueira requested time to think about the offers from both psg and Juve and again common fact that PSG were offering than us in terms of wages. Now that Siqueira seems destined to join Juve PSG have turned their attention to kurzawa. Again the club fucked up with their penny pinching tactics

but of course I'd expect you to deny it
He knew he would be a better fit here and was probably convinced of our project. Kurzawa is young and cocky of course he is going to command a lot of money and get it at PSG.

Evra, according to you, was going to be bust. And we enjoyed an entire season of him proving you wrong. This won't be any different. See you again next summer for the same conversation :tup:
 

Papi-a

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Its not the first time Marotta has sold a Star player without buying propper replacement! Remember Diego til Wolfsburg and quack as replacement! I would really like to know how Much influence Patrici and nedved has?
 

Badass J Elkann

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He knew he would be a better fit here and was probably convinced of our project. Kurzawa is young and cocky of course he is going to command a lot of money and get it at PSG.

Evra, according to you, was going to be bust. And we enjoyed an entire season of him proving you wrong. This won't be any different. See you again next summer for the same conversation :tup:
oh spare me the evra bullshit already, that has absolutely no relevance to this at all so don't try and use it as a means to prove yourself right, in fact it was nothing more than generalised bullshit, as if you know kurzawa in person and you spoke with siqueira and told you he felt it was a better fit at Juve. utterly poor even by your standards
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Well, if rumors are true, we already had agreed a deal with HIM but not the club then hopefully the llorente sale gives us enough to throw down the 35m for his release clause and be done with it.

I think Beppe was testing the waters first and knows now what to expect. It wasn't like dealing with Zamp when you already sorta know how to handle him. We haven't dealt with Schalke before so who knows.

Maybe send Coman down to Palermo on loan to get us in the 12-15m range for FZ..wouldn't be a bad idea I don't think. I hate loans but FV would get us moving forward in attack.
i hope we can get Draxler, but i dont want to expect much. an offer like 25+5 or 22+10 or ~28M + no bonuses..., something around +/-30M (including bonuses), would be the absolute maximum we would go for i think. the question is, would Schalke accept that? im leaning more towards a no right now, because honestly, if he didnt have that injury, he could easily go for 40M. one injury free season with good performances and his price skyrockets again. lets see if things change in the coming days
 

Kopanja

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Jul 30, 2015
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Its not the first time Marotta has sold a Star player without buying propper replacement! Remember Diego til Wolfsburg and quack as replacement! I would really like to know how Much influence Patrici and nedved has?
And I assume Diego won Ballon d'OR afterwards and we finished in relegation zone.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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Its not the first time Marotta has sold a Star player without buying propper replacement! Remember Diego til Wolfsburg and quack as replacement! I would really like to know how Much influence Patrici and nedved has?
Wait.

Diego was a star player?

For Juve? Being a good player on a poor team doesn't make you a star. And we are talking about the same guy who has gone to 17 teams in the last 5 years? That Diego?
 

zizinho

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it's common fact that siqueira requested time to think about the offers from both psg and Juve and again common fact that PSG were offering than us in terms of wages. Now that Siqueira seems destined to join Juve PSG have turned their attention to kurzawa. Again the club $#@!ed up with their penny pinching tactics

but of course I'd expect you to deny it
the question is, why would PSG prefer Siqueira over Kurzawa? i dont know if there is an agreement with Monaco for Kurzawa, but if yes, it could simply be PSG wanting to agree terms with Siqueira in case Kurzawa deal fails. PSG was mentioned only once by GDM, and he didnt mention any agreements with Atletico from what i remember, just PSG offering a higher salary to the player.
 

KB824

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oh spare me the evra bullshit already, that has absolutely no relevance to this at all so don't try and use it as a means to prove yourself right, in fact it was nothing more than generalised bullshit, as if you know kurzawa in person and you spoke with siqueira and told you he felt it was a better fit at Juve. utterly poor even by your standards
Dude do you need to play some Bloodborne again?

I can take some time out of my work day and laugh at you dying 30 times in 30 minutes :D
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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oh spare me the evra bullshit already, that has absolutely no relevance to this at all so don't try and use it as a means to prove yourself right, in fact it was nothing more than generalised bullshit, as if you know kurzawa in person and you spoke with siqueira and told you he felt it was a better fit at Juve. utterly poor even by your standards
Remember this post, genius?

never liked evra or supported his move any ways so stop making stupid assumptions as per usual
As always, we will all sit back and watch your worthless predictions crumble for the next season. See you again next summer...With.The.Same.Conversation.
 
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