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Bjerknes

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Cause, the player needs to be worth it.


The actual value of isco is 40-45mil. Real Madrid however, will not even consider a sale under 60-70 million if they arent planning on it.
- The actual value is 40-45mil
- The transfer value would be 70-80mil
- Some people here, call that difference the "overpaying".


We look for players like Sandro. Actual value about 20-25mil. If not in final year of contract, easely worth Coentrao money.
In final year of contract, managed to get him for exactly his actual value. Exactly the deal Marotta seeks


I dont know how high the number for "money is not the issue" can go. But you can bet the "overpaying" factor will have to be pretty limited.


Isco, Oscar, would require too much overpaying
Which experts determine the "actual value?" Is this some sort of new thing in football that magically transcends market value?
 

Zacheryah

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Which experts determine the "actual value?" Is this some sort of new thing in football that magically transcends market value?
I used those terms to explain what kind of deal Marotta makes. Why do you have to make a stupid irritating post like this ?

Actual value, could be described as the value generally accepted to be good for the player. Transfervalue is what the club is willing to sell him for so depends entirely on the club.
In above example, Madrid's isco is worth about 40-45mil. But if madrid doesnt want to sell, they will accept his actual transfervalue to be much higher then that.


This entire example is just to make the point at what Marotta does. We seek for players who fit into juventus in terms of character and quality, but we look for "the right price". When Marotta says "the right price", he means players who can be bought for a transfervalue wich is around or even lower then their actual value.


Example : Gareth Bale was probably worth around 60-65mil when Madrid wanted him. Tottenham deemed an actual transfervalue to be 100mil.


If 100mil was his actual value, he'd be better then cristiano ronaldo. He is very far from that.
 

duranfj

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Jul 30, 2015
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I used those terms to explain what kind of deal Marotta makes. Why do you have to make a stupid irritating post like this ?

Actual value, could be described as the value generally accepted to be good for the player. Transfervalue is what the club is willing to sell him for so depends entirely on the club.
In above example, Madrid's isco is worth about 40-45mil. But if madrid doesnt want to sell, they will accept his actual transfervalue to be much higher then that.


This entire example is just to make the point at what Marotta does. We seek for players who fit into juventus in terms of character and quality, but we look for "the right price". When Marotta says "the right price", he means players who can be bought for a transfervalue wich is around or even lower then their actual value.


Example : Gareth Bale was probably worth around 60-65mil when Madrid wanted him. Tottenham deemed an actual transfervalue to be 100mil.


If 100mil was his actual value, he'd be better then cristiano ronaldo. He is very far from that.
I think Marotra gets more than the right price for Alex Sandro.... He worths more than 30m for sure

Oil's money brings this 100m madness...
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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I used those terms to explain what kind of deal Marotta makes. Why do you have to make a stupid irritating post like this ?

Actual value, could be described as the value generally accepted to be good for the player. Transfervalue is what the club is willing to sell him for so depends entirely on the club.
In above example, Madrid's isco is worth about 40-45mil. But if madrid doesnt want to sell, they will accept his actual transfervalue to be much higher then that.


This entire example is just to make the point at what Marotta does. We seek for players who fit into juventus in terms of character and quality, but we look for "the right price". When Marotta says "the right price", he means players who can be bought for a transfervalue wich is around or even lower then their actual value.


Example : Gareth Bale was probably worth around 60-65mil when Madrid wanted him. Tottenham deemed an actual transfervalue to be 100mil.


If 100mil was his actual value, he'd be better then cristiano ronaldo. He is very far from that.
But you didn't answer the question. Who determines the "actual value?"
 

DanielSz

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@ADP1113: Marotta "Trequartista? I can guarantee you that an important player will arrive. The money is there, but only for players of great quality."

@ADP1113: Marotta "We still have unfinished business in the mercato, we are looking for a midfielder then after that perhaps a young player."
 
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