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    @Mark: Are we still scouting Palmer-Brown of Sporting Kansas? I feel I should open a thread for him the scouting threat since there's strong links on him
    It's close. Maybe you can wait and open the player thread when it's official.
     

    PedroFlu

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    I just don't want depth singings. Please sign guys for the positions we are in trouble.

    LB
    CB (left legged)
    RB (who can attack)
    AM

    Than you can start to build depth with an SS/Winger and a CF to replace Llorente
     

    Hist

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    Apparently Falcao just featured for united's U-21 squad, thats that for him in England. Is he worth the risk?
    Ofcoarse he is. Signing him or Cavani would be insanely good.

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    Cavani is playing badly out of position for an under performing PSG team and he's still looking good. Falcao might be physically finished. No brainer for me.
    Assuming the price is the same I'd take Cavani too. He is one year younger. No stranger to Serie A. Has much less injury problems. Isn't suffering from terrible form.

    As footballers when both are on form I think Falcao is the better player and has much more to his game than Cavani. But Cavani is a much safer option given falcao's troubles.
     

    PedroFlu

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    Ofcoarse he is. Signing him or Cavani would be insanely good.

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    Assuming the price is the same I'd take Cavani too. He is one year younger. No stranger to Serie A. Has much less injury problems. Isn't suffering from terrible form.

    As footballers when both are on form I think Falcao is the better player and has much more to his game than Cavani. But Cavani is a much safer option given falcao's troubles.
    These guys make something like 8M net. We can't afford them. They also will have no reseale value. They have a prohibitive cost.

    Also, Morata is showing signs that he can hold up to being our starting CF. What we have to spend for is a substitute for Tevez - a SS.

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    Remember Bouy. Raiola will do anything to get a good deal for himself.
    Ultimately Raiola's refusal to allow half of Buoy to be included in the Verratti deal with Pescara set us apart from it.

    Then Marotta decided to play hard ball and suddenly Napoli and PSG were offering the double for the kid straight up, no co-own + loan.

    Raiola really fucked us in the ass in there, and Marotta/Paratici failed in talent evaluation.

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    Agnelli specifically said no players above a wage of 7m.
    Gross or net? Source?

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    Let me get this straight: Cavani was bought less than 2 years ago by PSG for 65M, has a salary of 8/10M NET (equals to 16/20M in Italy) and there are journalists talking about Juve wanting him?

    It could be true if the guy is willing to leave a 3 year contract to leave 15M on the table, and also play for the most hated rival of his former club where he is already a legend. Makes sense.

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    Now, Felipe Anderson. I know he has a lot of goals and assists lately.

    My question is: how good has he played? Has he been consistent?

    I'd wait to invest on him. He seems more mature now, but he was very inconsistent at Santos. He actually looked talented regarding dribbling. But was a horrible decision maker, big headed, didn't seem to have great passing.

    So I wouldn't spend 30M on him now, as Nazio will want. I'm not sure this guy is going to cut it.

    Anyway, I think he has been playing more as a winger than as an AM. In Brazil he played as a classic trequartista/AM. Winger position suits him better, he has to use less brain and more his athleticism, which is amazing.

    Anyway, Lotito wouldn't sell him to us (at least for a normal prize) and he has EPL written all over him. City or Chelsea.
     

    Papi-a

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    These guys make something like 8M net. We can't afford them. They also will have no reseale value. They have a prohibitive cost.

    Also, Morata is showing signs that he can hold up to being our starting CF. What we have to spend for is a substitute for Tevez - a SS.

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    Ultimately Raiola's refusal to allow half of Buoy to be included in the Verratti deal with Pescara set us apart from it.

    Then Marotta decided to play hard ball and suddenly Napoli and PSG were offering the double for the kid straight up, no co-own + loan.

    Raiola really $#@!ed us in the ass in there, and Marotta/Paratici failed in talent evaluation.

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    Gross or net? Source?

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    Let me get this straight: Cavani was bought less than 2 years ago by PSG for 65M, has a salary of 8/10M NET (equals to 16/20M in Italy) and there are journalists talking about Juve wanting him?

    It could be true if the guy is willing to leave a 3 year contract to leave 15M on the table, and also play for the most hated rival of his former club where he is already a legend. Makes sense.

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    Now, Felipe Anderson. I know he has a lot of goals and assists lately.

    My question is: how good has he played? Has he been consistent?

    I'd wait to invest on him. He seems more mature now, but he was very inconsistent at Santos. He actually looked talented regarding dribbling. But was a horrible decision maker, big headed, didn't seem to have great passing.

    So I wouldn't spend 30M on him now, as Nazio will want. I'm not sure this guy is going to cut it.

    Anyway, I think he has been playing more as a winger than as an AM. In Brazil he played as a classic trequartista/AM. Winger position suits him better, he has to use less brain and more his athleticism, which is amazing.

    Anyway, Lotito wouldn't sell him to us (at least for a normal prize) and he has EPL written all over him. City or Chelsea.

    I understand what you are saying, but sometimes you have to take a chance! Felipe Anderson is an example. If we buy Felipe Andersson for 30. and he fails, then we would still be able recoup a large sum for him. We cant always wait to a player is proven, because we do not have 50 to splash on proven WQ players. We have to take them young, or in the running! Like Moratta, very expensive, but we will for sure not loose money on him. And i think we have the same case with Anderson!
     

    Hust

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    Buffon
    Neto
    Lichtsteiner Barzagli Chiellini Asamoah
    Caceres Bonucci Rugani Evra
    Vidal Pirlo Pogba
    Pereyra Marchisio Sturaro
    Firmino
    Jovetic
    Tevez Morata
    Berardi Zaza

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    Come at me :D
    Buffon
    Lichtensteiner-Barzagli-Chiellini-Evra
    Vidal-Marchisio-Pogba
    Tevez-Cavani-Morata


    :numnum:
     

    PedroFlu

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    Now, I don't expect to see big names coming this summer. Our revenue is growing and so is our debt. Gotta control it.

    So for the next summer, basically I'd want:


    GK: IN - Neto (free); OUT - Neto (loaned to Sampdoria)

    CB: OUT - Ogbonna (8M); IN - Rugani (4M); and some promising young European CB in, like Schar or Ezequiel Munoz - free)

    RB: OUT - Caceres (6M - his contract ends in one year), Isla (12M); IN - Zappacosta / Vrsaljko / Bruno Perez / Darmian / young European (around 8M)

    LB: OUT - De Ceglie (loan); IN - Young European with pace - Baba, Kurzawa, etc (12/15M)

    CM: OUT - Marrone (loan), Pepe (end of contract); IN - Jose Mauri (4M), Romulo (loan renew)

    AM/Winger: IN - Young European/South American AM project to start as a backup - someone like Praet or something (12M); Young Winger like Keita Balde (12M)

    CF/SS: OUT - Matri (end of loan), Llorente (14M), Berardi (15M - with buyout clause for 2016/17); IN - Cerri (free), Zaza (15M), Dybala (25M)

    Total spent: 38M. Yay (not counting on Pereyra's 14M)


    ---------------------------------------------------------Buffon------------------------------------------------
    -----------------------------------------------------------(Storari)---------------------------------------------------


    -----Litch-----------------------------Bonucci-------------------------------Barzagli/Chiellini----------Baba/Kurzawa/some shit
    (Zappacosta/Romulo)----------------------------(Rugani)-----------------------------------------(Schar)---------------------------(Evra/Padoin)


    ---------------------------------------------------------Marchisio---------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------------------Sturaro-----------------------------------------------------------

    --------------------Vidal----------------------------------------------------------------Pogba-----------------------------------
    ---------------------(Pereyra)-------------------------------------------------------------------(Asamoah)----------------------------------

    ------------------------------------------------------------Tevez-------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---------------------------------------------------------------(Praet)--------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ------------------------------Morata---------------------------------------------------------Dybala-----------------------------------------------------------------------(Zaza/Cerri)-----------------------------------------------------------(Coman)-----------------------------------------
     

    Hust

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    May 29, 2005
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    Now, I don't expect to see big names coming this summer. Our revenue is growing and so is our debt. Gotta control it.

    So for the next summer, basically I'd want:


    GK: IN - Neto (free); OUT - Neto (loaned to Sampdoria)

    CB: OUT - Ogbonna (8M); IN - Rugani (4M); and some promising young European CB in, like Schar or Ezequiel Munoz - free)

    RB: OUT - Caceres (6M - his contract ends in one year), Isla (12M); IN - Zappacosta / Vrsaljko / Bruno Perez / Darmian / young European (around 8M)

    LB: OUT - De Ceglie (loan); IN - Young European with pace - Baba, Kurzawa, etc (12/15M)

    CM: OUT - Marrone (loan), Pepe (end of contract); IN - Jose Mauri (4M), Romulo (loan renew)

    AM/Winger: IN - Young European/South American AM project to start as a backup - someone like Praet or something (12M); Young Winger like Keita Balde (12M)

    CF/SS: OUT - Matri (end of loan), Llorente (14M), Berardi (15M - with buyout clause for 2016/17); IN - Cerri (free), Zaza (15M), Dybala (25M)

    Total spent: 38M. Yay (not counting on Pereyra's 14M)


    ---------------------------------------------------------Buffon------------------------------------------------
    -----------------------------------------------------------(Storari)---------------------------------------------------


    -----Litch-----------------------------Bonucci-------------------------------Barzagli/Chiellini----------Baba/Kurzawa/some shit
    (Zappacosta/Romulo)----------------------------(Rugani)-----------------------------------------(Schar)---------------------------(Evra/Padoin)


    ---------------------------------------------------------Marchisio---------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------------------Sturaro-----------------------------------------------------------

    --------------------Vidal----------------------------------------------------------------Pogba-----------------------------------
    ---------------------(Pereyra)-------------------------------------------------------------------(Asamoah)----------------------------------

    ------------------------------------------------------------Tevez-------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---------------------------------------------------------------(Praet)--------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ------------------------------Morata---------------------------------------------------------Dybala-----------------------------------------------------------------------(Zaza/Cerri)-----------------------------------------------------------(Coman)-----------------------------------------
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    @PedroFlu

    I'd renew Caceres, he is a great squad player and does well for us. Also, is Schar free too or just Munoz?

    No way we can get 12m for Isla or 14m for Llorentree.

    And you really don't want to give Berardi a chance? His stats and age should command at least 25m IMO, you seem to undervalue him. :D
     

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