Suicide (16 Viewers)

[gray]

Enough said.

Lili, some things are worth the wait to find out what they'll be like... trust me, death is one of them

 

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[vitoria_Ally]

++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
Enough said.

Lili, some things are worth the wait to find out what they'll be like... trust me, death is one of them

I would keep this part and write other end: life is one of them
Cause it's worth to wait and see, how life will go on further

 

[Lilianna]

++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++

They, we, would be very sad.

think so?

i don't know...

 

[Lilianna]

++ [ originally posted by vitoria_Ally ] ++


I would keep this part and write other end: life is one of them
Cause it's worth to wait and see, how life will go on further

yeah..

that's truth..

life has many things to give me...

but i am a curious person!! :LOL:

anyway...
as gray said...enough said.

 

[mikhail]

++ [ originally posted by Lilianna ] ++
think so?

i don't know...

Definately. Someone'd have to really hate you to take pleasure in your death. Suicide is usually a horrific experience for the family too. As I said in my first post in this thread, my classmate killed himself. What I didn't say was that he did it in his own house. His family were so upset that they couldn't live there any more.

 

[Lilianna]

++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++

Definately. Someone'd have to really hate you to take pleasure in your death. Suicide is usually a horrific experience for the family too. As I said in my first post in this thread, my classmate killed himself. What I didn't say was that he did it in his own house. His family were so upset that they couldn't live there any more.

why did he killed himself?
and how did you feel about it??

sorry...
i didn't read the very first posts and i would like to hear only few words about tht.

 

[mikhail]

++ [ originally posted by Lilianna ] ++
why did he killed himself?
and how did you feel about it??

sorry...
i didn't read the very first posts and i would like to hear only few words about tht.

It's okay. Here's my original post:

++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++
A classmate of mine committed suicide when I was 16. He wasn't a friend of mine, but his little brother and my little brother were best friends. I have no idea what went on in the guy's head. I don't know why he did it. All I can say is that it hurt his family so much that I can't imagine ever doing the same, no matter what. But that same inability to understand why he did it means that I can't and won't judge his action.
RIP Brian.

 

[Lilianna]

omg....

at least i would leave a note,
saying everything.
for everyone.

and let some ppl feel guilty about it....

 

[mikhail]

Perhaps he left a note. I think he did, but its contents weren't made public.

 

[Lilianna]

maybe better.

but one thought that i have about suicide is that in greece the prists don't want to bury you.
and they say that god doesn't like it.

but also suicide is the biggest expression of human's freedom.
and i also do not believe that when someone is killing himself shows a man that is afraid to face his problems.
maybe because that was not the reason i had commited suicide....

cause i did it for very specific reasons...

 

[mikhail]

I've already said what I can on this, so I'll summarise it now and leave this thread be.

I don't understand what could drive anyone to kill themselves, but I refuse to condem it for this very reason. I don't think I could ever inflict that much pain on my family.

 

[Lilianna]

when it led me to suicide,

the pain was sooo huge thta my mind wasn';t clear to think of anything else exept this pain.

and the thread shouldn't be left.
we are still on-topic!

 

[mikhail]

++ [ originally posted by Lilianna ] ++
and the thread shouldn't be left.
we are still on-topic!

Amazingly, yes, but I don't feel I have anything more to contribute to it. Maybe you'll prove me wrong.

 

[Slagathor]

Is suicide the solution? In my opinion, you can't possibly judge that until you've been to the very bottom of society. That dark pit that people end up in because what they think is important, somehow went terribly wrong.

And from that, you can conclude that there are no "nonsense-reasons" to commit suicide - people who committed suicide over something only did that because that certain issue was the biggest deal in the world to them.

Just because you can't imagine something so unimportant in your eyes being a big deal doesn't mean that a person did a stupid thing or got it all wrong by committing suicide.

 

[Lilianna]

i won't try...

the fact is that I have many things to say...

if you do not,
i won't push you!!

 

[mikhail]

Good post Erik. How do you view ritual suicide, like the Hari-kiri (sp?) of the Samurai?

Lil, I'm not going to run away! you talk about what you think, and if I feel strongly about it, I'll but in. I just said what I said because I felt I was repeating myself already.

 

[Lilianna]

++ [ originally posted by Matto ] ++
Is suicide the solution? In my opinion, you can't possibly judge that until you've been to the very bottom of society. That dark pit that people end up in because what they think is important, somehow went terribly wrong.

And from that, you can conclude that there are no "nonsense-reasons" to commit suicide - people who committed suicide over something only did that because that certain issue was the biggest deal in the world to them.

Just because you can't imagine something so unimportant in your eyes being a big deal doesn't mean that a person did a stupid thing or got it all wrong by committing suicide.

maybe the thing YOU consider unimportant lets say,
for the person commiting the suicide is the most important thing in the world!

 

[Lilianna]

++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++
Good post Erik. How do you view ritual suicide, like the Hari-kiri (sp?) of the Samurai?

Lil, I'm not going to run away! you talk about what you think, and if I feel strongly about it, I'll but in. I just said what I said because I felt I was repeating myself already.

i got you!!

everything allright!!

i told ya...

i won't push you!

 

[mikhail]

++ [ originally posted by Lilianna ] ++
maybe the thing YOU consider unimportant lets say,
for the person commiting the suicide is the most important thing in the world!

His point exactly Lil.

 

[vitoria_Ally]

++ [ originally posted by Matto ] ++
Is suicide the solution? In my opinion, you can't possibly judge that until you've been to the very bottom of society. That dark pit that people end up in because what they think is important, somehow went terribly wrong.

And from that, you can conclude that there are no "nonsense-reasons" to commit suicide - people who committed suicide over something only did that because that certain issue was the biggest deal in the world to them.

Just because you can't imagine something so unimportant in your eyes being a big deal doesn't mean that a person did a stupid thing or got it all wrong by committing suicide.

And that's the good point.