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  • Thread Starter #21
    ++ [ originally posted by denco ] ++
    We don't actually need 5 strikers at all , what we need is a system which will enable the midfielders to score as well as the returns from them apart from Nedved is pathetic most especially Camo
    agreed...but it isnt only camo that isnt scoring much...out striker force, apart from DP, are hadly hardly prolific compared to other top teams like Real or Manu etc...
     

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    ++ [ originally posted by denco ] ++
    We don't actually need 5 strikers at all , what we need is a system which will enable the midfielders to score as well as the returns from them apart from Nedved is pathetic most especially Camo
    Camo just scored against Bologna didn't he? And Davids has put inthe occassional goal. Those are our only other offensive midfielders, so I don't see the big issue there.
     

    denco

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    ++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++


    Camo just scored against Bologna didn't he? And Davids has put inthe occassional goal. Those are our only other offensive midfielders, so I don't see the big issue there.
    When i posted this, Camo had not scored thise year and we are in the 4th month, I do not consider Davids an attacking m/f and if he was , he has to be the worst in the world as his goal record is awful, anyways he is not an attacking m/f so lets leave that as his shooting is definitely his worst asset

    You get goals from giggs, luis enrigue, guti, giggs, beckham, fiore, stankovic, figo,zz so why not from our team
     

    Stu

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    Well we need to get some, Majed, because depending on your strikers and your free role midfielder to score your goals isn't good enough....

    Suppose that DP and Trez had been injured at the same time?

    We're only lucky that one or the other has been there to bail us out when the other was missing.

    And look at how lucky we have been with Nedved this season.

    Neddy has been fit for pretty much the whole campaign, and if not for this, I fear what position we would be in the league because we have no creative equivalent to Pavel and we would have to play with a conventional 4-4-2.

    IMO this is something very serious, and the Juve board should take this into consideration when they do what they have to do this summer...

    Thanks for bringing up the subject, denco.
     
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    ++ [ originally posted by denco ] ++
    When i posted this, Camo had not scored thise year and we are in the 4th month, I do not consider Davids an attacking m/f and if he was , he has to be the worst in the world as his goal record is awful, anyways he is not an attacking m/f so lets leave that as his shooting is definitely his worst asset

    You get goals from giggs, luis enrigue, guti, giggs, beckham, fiore, stankovic, figo,zz so why not from our team
    HAHAHA, and eveyone called me crazy for wanting to get players like Landon Donovan, Damarcus Beasley, Dennis Rommedahl, and Guti! Now y'all think that is exactly what we need, ooohhhh, the irony!
     
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    ++ [ originally posted by denco ] ++
    You get goals from giggs, luis enrigue, guti, giggs, beckham, fiore, stankovic, figo,zz so why not from our team
    first, 1 giggs is enuff ;)

    second, take a look, only 2 players from manu, 2 players from madrid(guti most of the time playes a the support striker like dp, not midfield), 1 from lazio(stankovic doesnt score that much either) abd 1 from barca

    so we have nedved who iis in good form now as our good scorer from midfield player..

    some clubs have 1 or two good scoring midfielder but big deal...yes i wouldnt mind a more prolific midfield, but to me, what is more important is that the midfield provides a lot of assists....
     
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    ++ [ originally posted by bubba ] ++
    first, 1 giggs is enuff ;)

    second, take a look, only 2 players from manu, 2 players from madrid(guti most of the time playes a the support striker like dp, not midfield), 1 from lazio(stankovic doesnt score that much either) abd 1 from barca

    so we have nedved who iis in good form now as our good scorer from midfield player..

    some clubs have 1 or two good scoring midfielder but big deal...yes i wouldnt mind a more prolific midfield, but to me, what is more important is that the midfield provides a lot of assists....
    Yes those clubs have only one or two scoring midfielders that were listed, but they get a few goals from other midfield spots. For instance, Man U gets goals from Keane, Veron, and Scholes. Real gets goals from anybody that they put in the midfield. Nedved is our only scoring midfielder. If any of the others score it is a huge surprise. The fact is that we need some players like Ljungberg, Enrique, or Giggs. Fortunately we have one coming next year in Maresca. A scoring winger (preferably left), would give us a more dangerous midfield.
     
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    yes agreed..but so what if out midfield doesnt score much...instead, i would be more worried if the quality of crossing and the amount of assist arent good
     

    Majed

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    ++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++


    HAHAHA, and eveyone called me crazy for wanting to get players like Landon Donovan, Damarcus Beasley, Dennis Rommedahl, and Guti! Now y'all think that is exactly what we need, ooohhhh, the irony!
    and they aren't right now!!! ;)

    you can't compare the players you mentioned to the likes of Giggs, Figo,.......etc.
     

    AleDP

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    Apr 19, 2003
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    denco i disagree with you in regards to camoranesi....in my opinion he has been the biggst revelation in serie A this season and scored some big goals....last one i recall was against perugia at the death i think...........he may have struggled a little more recently but he's an essential part of our squad and has scored some important goals. Our strikers need to be the ones scoring most of the goals as that is what they are there for...our midfielders are the suppliers to our strikers and i agree they need to chip in with some goals which i think they have been doing.

    I cant wait for Miccoli to return next season....but at same time....i think we need to sell one of our strikers......i'm guessing trez or di vaio. If we get a substantail offer for Trez...whilst i dont want to see him go...might be a good idea.

    So for me.....Del Piero, Miccoli, Trez or Di Vaio and cavenaghi
    Zalayeta on loan
     

    denco

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    #32
    ++ [ originally posted by AleDP ] ++
    denco i disagree with you in regards to camoranesi....in my opinion he has been the biggst revelation in serie A this season and scored some big goals....last one i recall was against perugia at the death i think...........he may have struggled a little more recently but he's an essential part of our squad and has scored some important goals. Our strikers need to be the ones scoring most of the goals as that is what they are there for...our midfielders are the suppliers to our strikers and i agree they need to chip in with some goals which i think they have been doing.

    I cant wait for Miccoli to return next season....but at same time....i think we need to sell one of our strikers......i'm guessing trez or di vaio. If we get a substantail offer for Trez...whilst i dont want to see him go...might be a good idea.

    So for me.....Del Piero, Miccoli, Trez or Di Vaio and cavenaghi
    Zalayeta on loan
    I am not talking about his overall play, I was refering to his goals input which for a forward player is not very good and the game against Perugia was so long ago, I have gotten a year older and why is he the revelation of the season, is it becos he plays for Juventus? Has his impact been more impressive than Miccolli for instance, anyways thats another story

    I have to confess, the little I have seen of Cavenaghi, he has failed to impress me each time though he seems to have admirers on here but as yet I am not one of them

    Bubba , becos I mentioned 2 players does not mean that these clubs have only 2 midfielders with goals in them

    Real Madrid have players like Figo and Zz but the other 2 mfs are makele and flavio and if flavio scores then there must be something wrong

    Man u have scholes, beckham, Giggs

    Arsenal have Pires and Ljunberg etc

    But to be fair it depends on the way the team plays and we are no more an attacking team as we are now more a counterattacking team so goals from m/f are kinda rare as they are required to defend more than they attack
     

    Torkel

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    #33
    ++ [ originally posted by Rickenbacker2 ] ++
    Fortunately we have one coming next year in Maresca. A scoring winger (preferably left), would give us a more dangerous midfield.
    Wingers are rare today, it's gonna be hard finding one. When you described what you wanted my first thought was Kewell. I don't think we should count on Maresca scoring too much for us, 1) he's not that attacking and 2) he might not come back at all next season.
     

    AleDP

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    kewell a great option for the left........i watched him against france and he tore them apart....and he does it every time he plays for Australia....but we have nedved in that area of the field is there enough room for them all.

    As for camoranesi......he was unheard of last season......and due to luck i guess he got some play time with zambrotta's injury and he made most of it. nedved last year struggled to score goals and that's expected of midfielders we cant expect a consisitent return from them week after week....also depends on the role...of the midfielder....camoranesi playing on the right wont score as many as say a nedved or pushes in behind the strikers
     

    -Kinas-

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    Leeds are financially poor and could offload kewell..

    we can always do with 1 extra midfield...

    kewell can play centre and left and hes a proven player....

    Nedved needs someone to take over him too...

    he does have tired days...
     
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    kewell gr8, but he hasnt been that consistent 4 the last season or two...
     
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    #38
    ++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
    and they aren't right now!!! ;)

    you can't compare the players you mentioned to the likes of Giggs, Figo,.......etc.
    like hell I can't! We are talking about scoring midfielders. I said a long time ago that we needed one or two and everyone called me crazy. Of course the guys that I listed aren't Zidanes or Figos, but we aren't going to be getting them.
     

    Sivori

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    ++ [ originally posted by AleDP ] ++
    As for camoranesi......he was unheard of last season......and due to luck i guess he got some play time with zambrotta's injury and he made most of it. nedved last year struggled to score goals and that's expected of midfielders we cant expect a consisitent return from them week after week....also depends on the role...of the midfielder....camoranesi playing on the right wont score as many as say a nedved or pushes in behind the strikers
    Yes he was unheard of last season, but that's only because he didn't play for a big team. That's just the way things are in Italy. Now he does play for a big team and he gets a great deal of attention, certainly he has improved this year but not enough to warrant such a boost of praise.

    Brininging up the likes of DiNatale and Miccoli, they're just too good to be ignored. Empoli and Perugia have surprised against the big teams so people take notice.

    I would also like to point out that Camo also got his praise last year, it's just that it doesn't spread all over the world since there's no interest in a guy from Verona.

    Mention the name DiNatale to a kid outside of Italy and you'll get a blank face staring back at you. Mention Del Piero and you'll be sure to get a reaction.
     

    Hydde

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    If nedved and camo continue to contribute to the team, besides they doesnt score, for me is ok.

    Camo is doing, it can be said that he is doing normal, not so bad, not so good, well maybe more good than bad, but nothing out of the world.
     

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