Still a Dead Player (5 Viewers)

sutnop · Aug 9, 2003

When the "Flamboyant Benito" was killed in Italy during the 40's by hanging.

People later that had probably never met him, talked to him or maybe even seen him in real life.

Went by his corpse and spat on it
some neaderthal ones (must be Romanistas) even urininated on his corpse...
This IMO is disrespecting the dead,
But it still happens by the people that come from the craddle of mother Civilization Italians in Rome.

Millions in the world celebrated his hanging...
Which is OK, but spitting on somebodies corspe is not IMO.

Someone stated that it was ok to be happy about a middle Eastern dictator being dead, he is just as much a human being as GWB and Jimmy Davis was.

And ohh
Europes most dangerous animal is a wasp
think about that the next time you see one...

Martin · Aug 9, 2003

I'm gonna let this thread roll for the moment because frankly we lack a response at this time, it has caught us off guard. But I'd like to remind everyone that we have rules against insults, don't jump on people because they disgree with you!

Anders · Aug 9, 2003

++ [ originally posted by sutnop ] ++
When the "Flamboyant Benito" was killed in Italy during the 40's by hanging.

People later that had probably never met him, talked to him or maybe even seen him in real life.

Went by his corpse and spat on it
some neaderthal ones (must be Romanistas) even urininated on his corpse...
This IMO is disrespecting the dead,
But it still happens by the people that come from the craddle of mother Civilization Italians in Rome.

Millions in the world celebrated his hanging...
Which is OK, but spitting on somebodies corspe is not IMO.

Someone stated that it was ok to be happy about a middle Eastern dictator being dead, he is just as much a human being as GWB and Jimmy Davis was.

And ohh
Europes most dangerous animal is a wasp
think about that the next time you see one...

Why are you mixing politics with football?
What did Jimmy ever do? Saddam Hussein have killed and tortured people for years. Jimmy have signed a contract with United.... yeah that makes me wanna dance on his grave and mock him. :rolleyes:

Hydde · Aug 9, 2003

And if i doesnt piss the death body of Jimmy whatever, it doesnt make me a neardenthal??.

Man come on

sutnop · Aug 9, 2003

Where I from Football is many things and rarely just a game

to some its a Religion
to others it is a Proffesion
to others it is Salvation

Few of those people would call it just a game
There is far to much passion for it to be just a game
at least for me....

Zlatan · Aug 9, 2003

Passion = celebrating someone's death ???

:rolleyes:

Hydde · Aug 9, 2003

For me too. I love juventus with all my heart and soul.

But there are just a way of entertaining in the end. My life will not depend for this.

I just can accept that kiinf of way, for the ones that lives for the incomes of the Club, because that is his proffesion. But for the rest, is just entertaining, and nothing else.

If some people is extremist, afantics or whatever, is their own problem. But it must not be in that way.

Hydde · Aug 9, 2003

:stress:

Incredible

sutnop · Aug 9, 2003

IF it would be my father or my mother or someone I love
I would probably be grieving since that would affect me...

But a Player in United apart from (2 that I have met)
wouldn't affect me since they are not an aquitance and the only emotion they bring up in me what is equal to Man United...

sutnop · Aug 9, 2003

Íf say
Del Piero or Pablo Aimar would die
(god forbid)
I would grief them greatly I would be sad perhaps cry
and My Life would be turned upside down
still to this day I haven't exchanged a single word with one of them
I have both seen them in person
but never talked to them
Never known them

Still I would be devasted
The same way I was devasted at the very tragic passing of Gino Del Piero a man I have never even seen...

Still I griefed.

Isn't it logical
Wouldn't you be devasted if Lippi or Alessandro were to die
(god forbid)

then a Team that you detest/hate has someone die to opposite emotion should be evoked. altough I am not extatic because its sad when someone this young dies.....

Hydde · Aug 9, 2003

And what about their parents?? and friends??. Is fair for them ??.

Imagine that you are the one that killed him in tha car. Who give to you that power to take lifes and be happy with it??.

Tell me , is fair for all the people that right now is mourning for him?? ah??. If you would have the parents of that guy now in your face,,,what you will say to them???

"Hell yeah your son deserved to die because he was in Man U".

Then, what about you??. At least he was in a prestigious team, with a formidable future on his hands..

then if he deserves that, what you deserve????.

sutnop · Aug 9, 2003

thats putting words in my mouth

and thats not what I said!

Zlatan · Aug 9, 2003

What?

Hydde · Aug 9, 2003

about what this guy is saying

sutnop · Aug 9, 2003

IF you can grief for Gino or L'Avocatto because you love what they represent to you (in this case Juventus) and what they have acheived in the club we all are here to discuss

Then you should be able to see the logic of a happy emotion when something you hate dies or at least becomes weakend....

Let me explain it in good
Love and Hate = Opposites

Good thing happens to someone you Love = Good
Good thing happens to someone you hate = Bad

Bad Thing happens to someone you Love = Bad
Bad Thing happens to someon you hate = Good

Now does this perhaps make more sens to you?

sutnop · Aug 9, 2003

Martin I must say this almost beats
The Ugly Players Thread

(I hope you still have that stored somwhere)

but the ugly players thread takes the price becomes everyone commented and suggested players in them even the self-righteous people that later closed it

I remember your contribution being Ivan Campo
If my memory is not failing me.....

Zlatan · Aug 9, 2003

No, still makes no sense.

In this perticular cas I can understand you hating another team's player in the context of a football match, or something similar, but that hate has no base when he's dead. Does it really matter he was Man Utd's player now that he's dead?

Anyway, I wont continue this. If you dont see anything wrong with your statements, than I really cant do anything about it.

Zlatan · Aug 9, 2003

Oh OK. Keep up the good work :thumb:

Hydde · Aug 9, 2003

Still it doesnt make sense to desire death to someone i hate, because im not a god to take life away.

And i still dont see a powerfull argument to hate someone that you even dont know.

Those guys of manchester United are happy in their team. But in the other hand there is a MR Unknown that hates them to death...

.. and They will never be aware of it. Never.

Still thinking that your way of see the things are silly and nonsense.

sutnop · Aug 9, 2003

If I knew his parents
I would ofcourse feel sorry

If my best friend was Uday I would be also very sad if Sadaam was to die...

If my girlfriend was bush daughter I would also be very sad if her father was to die....

But that is you missing the point...

I don't know his parents
I don't know 13year old childs parents in South Africa that is already in the Final Stages of AIDS....

I didn't know my Ale's best friend who's Girlfriend had just passed away from a lethal brain tumour....
(still here I felt a bit of grief since I know Ale)

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