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Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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If that were true in Ian's case, don't you think he would have rationalized calciopolli and continued supporting Juventus?
Who knows, he was a Barca fan long before Calciopoli anyway, it's not like he switched overnight. In fact, for all we know he might have been a bigger Barca fan than a Juve fan right from the beginning and if he didn't say that then maybe that's because it wouldn't look good here. I remember him talking about buying land and settling down in that area even.

Personally i never jumped on the anti Ian bandwagon, i couldn't care less if he changed clubs every two seconds, but now i am genuinely curious to know what Ian thinks of the new "corporate" Barcelona :D
I never really understood what drove people so nutty about him, to me he was a nice guy with some curious opinions, but for the most part sensible.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
41,113
I thought of him as a sensible guy too. I mean sure, he didn't conform to the nonverbal and arbitrary rules of "fanhood", but other than that he was ok. :p
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,025
Who knows, he was a Barca fan long before Calciopoli anyway, it's not like he switched overnight. In fact, for all we know he might have been a bigger Barca fan than a Juve fan right from the beginning and if he didn't say that then maybe that's because it wouldn't look good here. I remember him talking about buying land and settling down in that area even.



I never really understood what drove people so nutty about him, to me he was a nice guy with some curious opinions, but for the most part sensible.
He came here to laugh at us after losing 1:4 against Bayern and the CL elimination. Before that it was a normal disappointment that someone dumped Juve for Barca, but after that it became much bigger :)
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,913
He came here to laugh at us after losing 1:4 against Bayern and the CL elimination. Before that it was a normal disappointment that someone dumped Juve for Barca, but after that it became much bigger :)
Yeah, but I don't have to tell you that we have people who are just waiting for such an opportunity. An appropriate reaction would be to tell him that he's a jerk, not make it yet another group bashing session. :D
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,025
Yeah, but I don't have to tell you that we have people who are just waiting for such an opportunity. An appropriate reaction would be to tell him that he's a jerk, not make it yet another group bashing session. :D
We could take the CL elimination laughs from Fred or Burke, but not from a convert. That's just how it works :D
 
Jun 13, 2007
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Hey logical fallacy, thanks for that. It's that damn browser grammar, it gets confused sometimes. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/payed

But it's good we have you to double check.
You're not very clever are you?

The link you sent me gave this definition for 'payed' : To slacken (as a rope) and allow to run out- used with out.

Here's the sentence I criticized you for.

"For 15m + Zdenek, he's a steal. Especially when you have in mind what we payed for Martinez or Amauri."


I hope I don't have to explain to you why that use of the word is wrong in your sentence.


Anyway, I don't like calling people idiots, but yeah...
 

V

Senior Member
Jun 8, 2005
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You're not very clever are you?

The link you sent me gave this definition for 'payed' : To slacken (as a rope) and allow to run out- used with out.

Here's the sentence I criticized you for.

"For 15m + Zdenek, he's a steal. Especially when you have in mind what we payed for Martinez or Amauri."


I hope I don't have to explain to you why that use of the word is wrong in your sentence.


Anyway, I don't like calling people idiots, but yeah...
You're as dumb as fuck. In no way did I imply my use of it was correct. I posted a link which shows there is a use for the word "payed", which confuses the browser's in-built grammar.

I even thanked you for spotting the mistake, yet you still had to go and make a fool of yourself. I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong side.

Jog on.
 
May 22, 2007
37,256
Barcelona are more than just a club. They are a business

Barça's record sponsorship deal was always going to happen eventually

Camp Nou Camp Nou seats with the slogan més que un club. The fact is that all football clubs are more than a club.

And so the inevitable has happened. Four years on from their decision to slap Unicef's logo across their players' chests, and to donate more than £1m a season to the charity in the process, Barcelona have given in to financial expediency and found a shirt sponsor who pays them money as well. Quite a lot, in fact: the Qatar Foundation will hand over €30m (£25m) per annum for five years starting from next season, to appear alongside Unicef on the shirt.

The overriding sentiment on hearing the news was one of disappointment. The former agreement with Unicef might have been, on one level, a marketing ploy – a move that in all reality probably helped to shift a few more shirts and fit in very nicely with Barça's més que un club (more than a club) schtick. But, if the comments below the blog I wrote at the time are anything to go by, most people were still inclined to view the move as, on balance, A Good Thing.

Speaking at the time, the Barcelona president Joan Laporta said:

"It will not be the brand name of a corporation. It will not be a commercial to promote some kind of business. It will be the logo of Unicef. Through Unicef, we, the people of FC Barcelona, the people of Barça, are very proud to donate our shirt to the children of the world who are our present, but especially are our future."

Even then, though, there was a lingering doubt over whether such a move could actually last. Many suggested that this was just a clever way to get people used to the idea of Barcelona's shirt carrying a someone else's name, so that they would kick up less of a fuss when the team did eventually move over to a regular sponsor. This, in all likelihood, was the plan all along.

Either way, this was always going to happen eventually. Barcelona's debt has been cited at £369.5m, £65m of which came last season alone. Transfer activity was a factor, but whichever way you spin the figures the financial reality was that Barcelona could no longer continue to ignore such a lucrative revenue stream, especially with Uefa introducing the Financial Fair Play legislation that will require clubs competing in Europe to break even.

With time, many protests will fade and Barcelona will be left with a tidy little earner. Because when it comes down to it, they are more than just a club. They are a business.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/dec/10/barcelona-record-sponsor-qatar-foundation
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
:D spot on.


To be honest, the "mes que un club" was always going to be unsustainable, especially at this day and age. Their fault for trying to pretend they were something they aren't.
 

Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
17,803
I always interpreted their'' Mes que un Club'' as if Camp Nou was like something political. Felt like they profiled themselves as if Camp Nou was so meaningfull to Catelans that the political center of them should be based out in their staduim. I dislike it when politics get mixed in football. Also felt that the general opinion about Catelans being held prison in Spain was their sick propoganda.
 

K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
Real Madrid's Cristiano Ronaldo Is The Most Annoying Player I've Ever Seen - FIFA Referee Claus Bo Larsen

“He is always out to get a cheap free-kick, especially at home. We tend to talk before games about how he would go down so easily. We know how not to be biased. But we have to be prepared too.

“Cristiano Ronaldo is given a clean slate at the start of every game, but when he would lie down after failing to win a free-kick, he would smile at me because he knows I don’t fall for his theatrics.”
 

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