[SPA] La Liga 2009/2010 (11 Viewers)

Byrone

Peen Meister
Dec 19, 2005
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Can somebody finally forget about the overrated Genoa players?
They had two very good players lately, and both of them are in Inter now. The rest is simply not worthy of our attention.
I hardly think palacio is overrated,as for their players they work hard & are way more cohesive as a unit than our team.Its more to do with the coach & the tactics that make them shine.Genoa is a very well run club considering their financial constraints.
 

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Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,000
I hardly think palacio is overrated,as for their players they work hard & are way more cohesive as a unit than our team.Its more to do with the coach & the tactics that make them shine.Genoa is a very well run club considering their financial constraints.
Absolutely.

And yet, with the obvious better organization than Juve, better coaching, better team work, Genoa are 10th placed in Serie A, with a negative goal difference, with 4 wins, 1 draw and 4 defeats and they're not doing well in Europe where they have 1 win and 2 defeats.

What else does it say if not that most of those players are average and below average and they'll do much worse than 10th place if they play for Juve, with our coaching, our team work and organization.

I agree with Osman that there are some promising players there. I completely forgot about Bocchetti. I rate the boy high. But most of the other players, who look good there, like Palladino, Floccari, Morreti, Sculli, Zapater etc, will be of absolutely no use to Juve.
 

V

Senior Member
Jun 8, 2005
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Btw, Zapater sucked in the Europa League games (and average in league), especially against Valencia, and now he is benched because Juric, their main playmaker, is back. So dont expect him to start, let alone impress.
:pumpkin: :pumpkin:
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,503
Hehe, I perfectly know what croats think of him, and what a limited player he generally is. But somehow he is like another player with Genoa (overacheives considering his qualities), fits in like a glove, and turns into Ivan De la Pena for them, assists for fun.


And Dusan, Mesto would be a versatile and decent squad player for us, can play in multiple positions and can be rather good. Not saying sign him or such, but can be rather useful backup.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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And Dusan, Mesto would be a versatile and decent squad player for us, can play in multiple positions and can be rather good. Not saying sign him or such, but can be rather useful backup.
:cry:

I hate when someone says he would be a versatile . Seriously, it's about time we put our heads up. We're not Fiorentina or Lazio, we need good players and not just average rejects.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,503
We arent looking at him, as an RB he wouldnt cut it, but as a cheap freebie backup player for couple of positions, ala Salihamidzic, he would be decent. He is one of the few Genoa players I have thought has been real good so far in their weak start to the season.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Definitely, shame that the Spanish one we loaned out isn't getting first team football.

Anyway, DSilva is a left winger and left footed? Can't Giovinco go right?

I don't rate Silva that highly as a winger. He's rather good there, but he plays best in the "hole" as an attacking mid.


Hehe, I perfectly know what croats think of him, and what a limited player he generally is. But somehow he is like another player with Genoa (overacheives considering his qualities), fits in like a glove, and turns into Ivan De la Pena for them, assists for fun.


And Dusan, Mesto would be a versatile and decent squad player for us, can play in multiple positions and can be rather good. Not saying sign him or such, but can be rather useful backup.
Juric is indeed :tup:


I think Mesto is a decent player myself. He's been pretty good whenever i've watched Genoa this season and he's equally good playing right or left. But i think he would only be useful if played as a wingback, imo he is one of those players that isn't good enough defensively to be a fullback nor good enough offensively to be a winger.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,000
I've read what some Barca fans said about their team and it's funny how they're eating their words about Zlatan. :howler:
One even suggests to pay Inter 50 more million because he feels Barca robbed Inter with Zlatan and he doesn't want his team to have a criminal record due to this robbery :lol2:

But what's annoying is how they keep saying things like: "Oh, I've never seen such a great move before" , "Oh, i've never seen such powerful shot" , and similar shit. They make it seem as if Zlatan started doing this only in Barca.
Guess what, you gloryhunters.... he was doing the same in Italy too, but when he was doing that in Serie A you called him an overrated flop. Now he's the second coming.
:disagree:
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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Well what'd you expect, it's like people only to appreciate players when they're playing for their club. Do I even need to bring up Inzaghi? :p In the eyes of many he was trash the moment we sold him. In the eyes of even more Milanisti he suddenly became a good player, stopped diving and trying to get away with stuff. Probably to this day they will still stubbornly uphold this "at Juve he was terrible, for us he's been great" facade.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,503
I've read what some Barca fans said about their team and it's funny how they're eating their words about Zlatan. :howler:
One even suggests to pay Inter 50 more million because he feels Barca robbed Inter with Zlatan and he doesn't want his team to have a criminal record due to this robbery :lol2:

But what's annoying is how they keep saying things like: "Oh, I've never seen such a great move before" , "Oh, i've never seen such powerful shot" , and similar shit. They make it seem as if Zlatan started doing this only in Barca.
Guess what, you gloryhunters.... he was doing the same in Italy too, but when he was doing that in Serie A you called him an overrated flop. Now he's the second coming.
:disagree:
This is too true, some Barca fans in XT were acting like they were signing Corradi 3 months back, and I kept telling them what an insane player Ibra can be, and recently reminded some of those of what they said back then, and ofcourse they act like they allways thought he is the second coming :D
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,184
A Creative spanish player in Italy.....
That has to be one of the most retarded stereotypes on this forum.
Well, here is the list of Spaniards in Serie A.


* Guillermo Amor – Fiorentina – 1998-00
* Iván de la Peña – Lazio – 1998-99, 2001-02
* Luis del Sol – Juventus, Roma – 1962-72
* Roberto Delgado – Lazio – 2003-05
* Javier Farinós – Inter – 2000-04
* Ricardo Gallego – Udinese – 1989-90
* César Gómez – Roma – 1997-98
* Josep Guardiola – Brescia, Roma – 2001-03
* Iván Helguera – Roma – 1997-98
* Luis Helguera – Udinese, Ancona – 2000-02, 2003-04
* Gaizka Mendieta – Lazio – 2001-02
* José Mari – Milan – 1999-02
* Óscar López – Lazio – 2004-05
* Rafael Martín Vázquez – Torino – 1990-92
* Javi Moreno – Milan – 2001-02
* Víctor Muñoz – Sampdoria – 1988-90
* Joaquín Peiró – Torino, Inter, Roma – 1962-70
* Javier Portillo – Fiorentina – 2004-05
* Juan Santistebán – Venezia – 1961-63
* Luis Suárez – Inter, Sampdoria – 1961-73
* Diego Tristán – Livorno – 2007-08

A couple of them were pretty good for their respective clubs in Italy, including Suarez, or so I've read. I think Guardiola was more of a case of just being old.

With regards to Mendieta, it really pained me to see him get booed off the Olimpico pitch, causing him to fall into tears that one match. Lazio and their Ultras never really gave him a decent chance, from being overzealous to impatient, then finally becoming militant. They basically didn't even give him a half a season, which is not acceptable to me. That's when I really started to hate those Mihajlovic-loving racists. :tdown:

In spite of the fact there have been many Spanish "flops" recently, it doesn't mean that someone like Villa or Silva would turn out to be one, too.
 

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