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Actually if you believe what they say, they're doing this just because the current regime in the north is a damn corrupt and fucked up one. So, according to them here again, they're willing to reform the old Sudan if/when that changes in the future.
So yea, even they know it would be some shitty times ahead without the north.
It's the same heart-full U.S we're talking about here that bargained "the criminal" Al-Bashir with a deal to drop the international case against him, which btw, is one that accuses the guy of mass murder, In exchange of letting go of the south when the poll results favor the probable option.
So yeah, it's just business for the U.S just like it is for China. No human rights BS.
Stoning really isn't as common as you think in the muslim lands.
So yea, even they know it would be some shitty times ahead without the north.
It's the same heart-full U.S we're talking about here that bargained "the criminal" Al-Bashir with a deal to drop the international case against him, which btw, is one that accuses the guy of mass murder, In exchange of letting go of the south when the poll results favor the probable option.
So yeah, it's just business for the U.S just like it is for China. No human rights BS.
Stoning really isn't as common as you think in the muslim lands.
The regime in the North is very corrupt. That's not really in dispute. The issue is whether the south would rather be independent and if so who will lead them, what type of government will they be, etc.
Sudanese civil wars have never been pleasant. So obviously a violent split would be harmful to the new nation as well as the old nation. In addition, if the South is allowed by the North to become independent things will be difficult as with any new nation and the seed of corruption will still be around.
Sudan promises reform, but so did Tunisia.
I don't think anyone said anything about human rights. It's more of a "don't just blame us" stance.
That said no one really deserves human rights. If one group of people wishes to wipe out another group of people it's up to the victims to not let this happen.
Duh.
Sudanese civil wars have never been pleasant. So obviously a violent split would be harmful to the new nation as well as the old nation. In addition, if the South is allowed by the North to become independent things will be difficult as with any new nation and the seed of corruption will still be around.
Sudan promises reform, but so did Tunisia.
I don't think anyone said anything about human rights. It's more of a "don't just blame us" stance.
That said no one really deserves human rights. If one group of people wishes to wipe out another group of people it's up to the victims to not let this happen.
Duh.
Both are wrong.I admit that.
I myself don't think that all the Americans like that BUT i do believe that the American government and their polices are.
I have no any problem with American people,but i just hate the foreign policies of your government.
American people not to be blamed,cos many of them are against those polices themselves.So NO,not all the Americans are Israel-loving,oil grubbing but the government are.
NOTE: there is no problem for me if you support Jews,my problem is with supporting Israel,and they are different.
I myself don't think that all the Americans like that BUT i do believe that the American government and their polices are.
I have no any problem with American people,but i just hate the foreign policies of your government.
American people not to be blamed,cos many of them are against those polices themselves.So NO,not all the Americans are Israel-loving,oil grubbing but the government are.
NOTE: there is no problem for me if you support Jews,my problem is with supporting Israel,and they are different.
All governments are different from their people. They think they are looking out for their nation's interest and use that idea as an excuse to do all kinds of corrupt things. It's not just the United States either nor is this completely confined to the West or non-Arabs.
I just used Jews as an example. I feel equally about all groups of people.
I just used Jews as an example. I feel equally about all groups of people.
I think the talk of a civil war is really overrated at this point. The northern government has openly admitted their acceptance to the poll results whatever those maybe and surely if that isn't comforting enough. The north's army is actually much behind the southern one now.
The Southern openly admitted they spent almost all their money share of oil profits on buying weaponry while the North one has been subject for international boycotts on that for what 20 years now? All the shit they've now would make them look like some poor militia at best.
The north really has no choice but bargain for the best deal they can with the west in exchange for their acceptance of the way things are going to end up with in the south, and apparently they got just that in that deal I mentioned earlier.
The Southern openly admitted they spent almost all their money share of oil profits on buying weaponry while the North one has been subject for international boycotts on that for what 20 years now? All the shit they've now would make them look like some poor militia at best.
The north really has no choice but bargain for the best deal they can with the west in exchange for their acceptance of the way things are going to end up with in the south, and apparently they got just that in that deal I mentioned earlier.
Al Qaeda is responsible for all the stoning that goes on in the world? I don't think they are part of this discussion, and no, I don't think everyone Muslim is Al Qaeda. That's just foolishness.
I'd say that a dictator giving up control of approximately half his genocidal capability is a winning situation, regardless of whether he's officially charged. But I'm all for leaving Sudan alone, even if millions more are slaughtered. You handle it with your expertise over there.
I'd say that a dictator giving up control of approximately half his genocidal capability is a winning situation, regardless of whether he's officially charged. But I'm all for leaving Sudan alone, even if millions more are slaughtered. You handle it with your expertise over there.
In Somalia and Lebanon you failed to achieve the objectives while killing many innocent people. While in Pakistan, the airstrikes have proofed nothing in the fight against terrorism and in one report I read, the Pakistani army claims more than 5,000 civilians died from those airstrikes since they started two years ago.
That's a lot don't you think?
And we all know Vietnam and how many civilians and their infrastructure was hit during that ugly war that the U.S also rapped up with a devastating loss.
That's a lot don't you think?
And we all know Vietnam and how many civilians and their infrastructure was hit during that ugly war that the U.S also rapped up with a devastating loss.