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Should Juve buy Pepe in the summer?

  • Yes, he's useful

  • No, we don't need him


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Blindman
Jun 13, 2007
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Why not give Grosso another chance? After all the only opportunity he had here was last season when every player was playing horribly.

Why should Melo get another chance but not Greasso?
Because Pepe's younger and new to the team. It's also more exciting to see Pepe play than Grosso because we already know everything about what Grosso has to offer.
 

Cirillo

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Nov 10, 2009
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Because Pepe's younger and new to the team. It's also more exciting to see Pepe play than Grosso because we already know everything about what Grosso has to offer.
To be honest I'm not too fussed about what's more exciting, I just want to win and if we need a specialist defender then IMO Grosso is the better option rather than going with the unknown Pepe in defense.
 

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Because Pepe's younger and new to the team. It's also more exciting to see Pepe play than Grosso because we already know everything about what Grosso has to offer.
So because he has played one half as LB we should give him the spot over a player who has spent his career there?

And then we have to start Lanzafame too...
 

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Blindman
Jun 13, 2007
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To be honest I'm not too fussed about what's more exciting, I just want to win and if we need a specialist defender then IMO Grosso is the better option rather than going with the unknown Pepe in defense.
I don't mind Grosso. I actually think he was our best fullback last year, I know that's not saying much but still. However, I don't see the harm in giving Pepe a go at it for a couple of games and seeing what happens then. We might just have a Zambrotta in our hands, who knows?

Worst case, he has a couple of bad games. We realize Pepe has no use in this team and we play Grosso. But don't you think that unknown prospect is worth exploring?
 

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Blindman
Jun 13, 2007
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So because he has played one half as LB we should give him the spot over a player who has spent his career there?

And then we have to start Lanzafame too...
Not give him a spot. Give a chance at getting the spot.


Lanzafame? So you're saying giving Pepe the opportunity to play a couple of games instead of Grosso is the same as giving Lanzafame the opportunity to play a couple of games instead of Marchisio or Krasic?
:shifty:
 

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I don't mind Grosso. I actually think he was our best fullback last year, I know that's not saying much but still. However, I don't see the harm in giving Pepe a go at it for a couple of games and seeing what happens then. We might just have a Zambrotta in our hands, who knows?

Worst case, he has a couple of bad games. We realize Pepe has no use in this team and we play Grosso. But don't you think that unknown prospect is worth exploring?
:lol:
 

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Not give him a spot. Give a chance at getting the spot.


Lanzafame? So you're saying giving Pepe the opportunity to play a couple of games instead of Grosso is the same as giving Lanzafame the opportunity to play a couple of games instead of Marchisio or Krasic?
:shifty:
No, where did I say that?

Martinez is out for several months so with Pepe at LB that means our only natural LW is Lanzafame. Marchisio has played there for a few games but that probably wont be his long term role.
 

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Blindman
Jun 13, 2007
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No, where did I say that?

Martinez is out for several months so with Pepe at LB that means our only natural LW is Lanzafame. Marchisio has played there for a few games but that probably wont be his long term role.
Lanzafame is out for another month and I don't think he'll take Marchisio's spot anyway. Except maybe in the Europa league because Aquilani can't play. I would expect to see Marchisio grow more comfortable in his role and our formation is looking more like a 4-3-3 anyway.

With Marchisio-Melo-Aquilani in the middle and Krasic---Alex---Quag in front.]

Edit:



---Quag--------------Krasic-

--------------Alex-----------

Marchi---Melo---Aqui--------

Alternatively,


Quag ----- Amauri------- Krasic


Marchi --- Melo---- Aqui
 

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Nov 26, 2006
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actually it is,as a full back it is your job to move inside and pick up the player in the middle when the ball is the other side and the centre back has to come across to cover the front post. if the ball comes down the left,the right back will go to the runner,the RCB will push across to the front post,the LCB will come across to the forward and the Lb would cover in behind and support his CB by picking up the second forward,the backline is a unit and the full back are defenders first,attacking options second
The ball was pretty much in the middle of the goals when it was headed; I want a CB to be dealing with that.

If the ball is a bit further to the back post it's the fullbacks responsibility.

The Juve CBs should also have been making an extra effort to hold position in the middle given who the fullbacks were at the time.
 

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Lanzafame is out for another month and I don't think he'll take Marchisio's spot anyway. Except maybe in the Europa league because Aquilani can't play. I would expect to see Marchisio grow more comfortable in his role and our formation is looking more like a 4-3-3 anyway.

With Marchisio-Melo-Aquilani in the middle and Krasic---Alex---Quag in front.]

Edit:



---Quag--------------Krasic-

--------------Alex-----------

Marchi---Melo---Aqui--------

Alternatively,


Quag ----- Amauri------- Krasic


Marchi --- Melo---- Aqui
I keep hearing this about our formation being a 4-3-3 but I don't really see it. Even though he doesn't track back as much as he should Krasic is still a RW.
 

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Blindman
Jun 13, 2007
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I keep hearing this about our formation being a 4-3-3 but I don't really see it. Even though he doesn't track back as much as he should Krasic is still a RW.
That's true but Marchisio is more like a LCM than a LM. Since Krasic is more attacking than Marchisio it's reasonable to assume that we are playing with three in the center midfield with Krasic pushing up to the right.



This how it really is but I it's not very typical.

----------Quag--------Amauri---------------------

------------------------------------Krasic

Marchisio---Melo-----Aquilani----

It's easier to call it a 4-3-3 but it's really a 4-3-1-2 with Krasic in a right midfielders role.
 

Cirillo

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Nov 10, 2009
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Worst case, he has a couple of bad games. We realize Pepe has no use in this team and we play Grosso. But don't you think that unknown prospect is worth exploring?
Yea sure i reckon it's worth exploring , it's just how we do it i guess. The Milan game was perfect. There was an injury so he was thrown in the deep end. I wouldn't necessarily tell him "you've got 3 or 4 games to impress me" and just stick with him regardless. Also there's always cup games..
 

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Blindman
Jun 13, 2007
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Maybe switch Pepe to right back instead of left back. Ironically, he's more defensive than Motta. And Marco can play on Marchi's side where there will be defensive cover.
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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Now people would rather have Grosso at LB than Pepe. Holy shit.

Do you know why we tie these fucking shit teams 0-0? Because our fullbacks do nothing in attack. Obviously our main attackers struggled as well but it wouldn't hurt if our fullbacks could help out. One game I counted and Grygera touched the ball 3 times in the opponent's half the entire game.

Once in a while they put in a good cross, usually DC, but now he's gone too.

Tell me what's the harm in playing Pepe at fullback vs. Cesena or Brescia? We might have a little more possession in their half?

I mean, what's the risk of trying Pepe out? We have 3 shit teams coming up. Try him out and see what we got.

Fullback is arguably the most important position on the field nowadays and we have some of the worst in Europe. We have a guy who MIGHT be an upgrade (and who I'm convinced is an upgrade) sitting on our bench doing nothing and no one wants to use him? Not even against some bad teams to help add offense?

Not even when the alternatives are Motta and Grosso?
 

Bozi

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Oct 18, 2005
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The ball was pretty much in the middle of the goals when it was headed; I want a CB to be dealing with that.

If the ball is a bit further to the back post it's the fullbacks responsibility.

The Juve CBs should also have been making an extra effort to hold position in the middle given who the fullbacks were at the time.
oh i agree,i was just retorting to Zlatans claim that its not a full backs job to defend those balls
 

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