Should we give up on certain animals? (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter Ford Prefect
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let's keep give up on curtain people too
we spend millions of euro's every year for peoples (who are starving from hunger and everything)
first that money never come by the people who need it the most
second they make babies all the time (even though they can't affort it at all)
Third they make war with each other
we spend millions of euro's every year for peoples (who are starving from hunger and everything)
first that money never come by the people who need it the most
second they make babies all the time (even though they can't affort it at all)
Third they make war with each other
OP
They are insanely intelligent.
And coupled to this lot.
"Screw Hollywood: It's not apes that humans should feel threatened by, it's octopuses. We've already covered their amazing camouflage and their deadly poisons -- what we haven't told you is that they're also one of the most intelligent animals in the world. They've been observed using tools and solving complex problems. They can move across land and can pour their bodies through the tiniest holes and crevices because they have no goddamn bones. Also, their tentacles have so many nerve endings that they can act autonomously. In other words, their freaking arms have minds of their own.
For our money, if there was one creature that would seem capable of organizing, developing a civilization and rising up to overthrow humanity, it would be the octopus. Why aren't these writhing, melon-headed bastards riding sharks up and down the coast harassing surfers? It doesn't make sense that these creatures are so smart and have so many astounding adaptations and yet they haven't managed to build a single underwater castle yet. That we know of."
http://www.cracked.com/article_1946...way-from-taking-over-world.html#ixzz1dg4lTeG8
And coupled to this lot.
"Screw Hollywood: It's not apes that humans should feel threatened by, it's octopuses. We've already covered their amazing camouflage and their deadly poisons -- what we haven't told you is that they're also one of the most intelligent animals in the world. They've been observed using tools and solving complex problems. They can move across land and can pour their bodies through the tiniest holes and crevices because they have no goddamn bones. Also, their tentacles have so many nerve endings that they can act autonomously. In other words, their freaking arms have minds of their own.
For our money, if there was one creature that would seem capable of organizing, developing a civilization and rising up to overthrow humanity, it would be the octopus. Why aren't these writhing, melon-headed bastards riding sharks up and down the coast harassing surfers? It doesn't make sense that these creatures are so smart and have so many astounding adaptations and yet they haven't managed to build a single underwater castle yet. That we know of."
http://www.cracked.com/article_1946...way-from-taking-over-world.html#ixzz1dg4lTeG8
hmm, you've thrown me here.
Because people that live in some of the poorest and most disease ridden countries in the world are ruled by corrupt leaders we should give up on helping them?
Because people that live in some of the poorest and most disease ridden countries in the world are ruled by corrupt leaders we should give up on helping them?
for example in the dessert people life there and every year they have problems with water and everything what can we do? and what do we do?
we sent them money? who? do they have a bankaccount? No we sent it to a charity (where half of the money ends up in the pocket of the director) and they sent it to the corrupt leaders? bye bye money and the people still die anyway.
OP
You need to see past what you see in newspapers and read what the charities themselves do. After the 1990s direct money donations in general were stopped. Money is now spent on sustainable farming, building projects and on scientific developement of methods to deal with starvation. For example - OXFAM now donate animals and teach the locals how to farm sustainably, donate water purification solutions, build schools for kids, and build wells with clean drinking water.
Charities clocked on quickly in recent years to 'giving money doesnt help' and changed tact to sustainable development. I remember for the UK LIVE8 concerts, the organisers were clear that they didnt want any money being donated because of what happened at LIVEAID.
Charities clocked on quickly in recent years to 'giving money doesnt help' and changed tact to sustainable development. I remember for the UK LIVE8 concerts, the organisers were clear that they didnt want any money being donated because of what happened at LIVEAID.
Still their presidents of the charities get a big salaries with high bonusses were do you think the money came from.
So you still think we need to sent water every year to people who don't have water every year and making a baby too every year (so the kid can go working for in a factory with a very low salaries to support his younger brother and sister. Those people should stop making babies every year.
So you still think we need to sent water every year to people who don't have water every year and making a baby too every year (so the kid can go working for in a factory with a very low salaries to support his younger brother and sister. Those people should stop making babies every year.
OP
Can you focus the point you are trying to make rather than change it.
Do I agree with population control? - yes. Do I agree that people shouldn't be having children in places where it is unsustainable? - yes. Do I agree that something needs to be done about corruption in developing nations? - yes.
What can be done about all of that without turning into hitler - very little.
You cannot change the fact that there are millions dying every year through preventable illness's and starvation by simply saying 'they shouldn't have kids in the first place'. These people are alive, they are in pain and they suffer on a daily basis. And you propose 'fuck 'em shouldn't have kids in the first place'.
Thats a great outlook.
Do I agree with population control? - yes. Do I agree that people shouldn't be having children in places where it is unsustainable? - yes. Do I agree that something needs to be done about corruption in developing nations? - yes.
What can be done about all of that without turning into hitler - very little.
You cannot change the fact that there are millions dying every year through preventable illness's and starvation by simply saying 'they shouldn't have kids in the first place'. These people are alive, they are in pain and they suffer on a daily basis. And you propose 'fuck 'em shouldn't have kids in the first place'.
Thats a great outlook.
Sorry I did agree with you that charity are better now then in like the 80's or 90's
and you are right about we can't just go kill people because we have too much people.
But we (humans) do that to animals
by saying we should just kill some spieces of animals because it only cost us money.
Thatwas my actually point.
sorry but my english failure isn't helping in this case.
and you are right about we can't just go kill people because we have too much people.
But we (humans) do that to animals
by saying we should just kill some spieces of animals because it only cost us money.
Thatwas my actually point.
sorry but my english failure isn't helping in this case.
