Should Beppe Marotta be sacked? (10 Viewers)

[Zlatan]

Yet Matri/QUag/Vucinic are world beaters.

Lewandovski was the best player in Germany last, a top goal scorer and you are telling me he's not good enough based on one game.

We should at least tried to up our bid for Llorente, giving them 18 mil is an insult when you see that we paid similar fee to Matri, LLorente is a spain regular and a tested goal scorer.

Damioa is a risk that we could've taken, he's the starting striker for Brazil, with good instinct and definetely a good eye for the goal, as for your argument about staying brazil, it means also that Neymar sucks because he's also still playing there.

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Yet Matri is worth 18 mil, Quag 15 mil, Bonnucci 15 mil, and you are saying that the best player in Bundesliga last year isn't worth over 20 mil .

Matri isnt worth 18 mil €, Bonucci might be worth 15 mil in the future, is not now, and Quag was paid only 11 or 12 million.

Until he proves himself more Lewa isnt worth more than 20-22 million Euro, if he is the best player in germany again than he will be worth more.


But the point is, none of those players were available for 20 mil €.

 

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[Hængebøffer]

Shame really we are wasting our best players primes ( Pirlo, Barza, Buffon..), we could've made a good run in CL this year with the right reinforcements.

Why are you bitching?
Giovinco>Tévez

 

[Cheesio]

Trez hater

 

[Nzoric]

Reading the last few pages, trying to talk with Cheesio is yet again shown to be as effective as convincing a brick wall to move.

 

[Cheesio]

 

[Nzoric]

I like you man, you obviously want what's best for our club and that's good enough in my book. It's just that people have given you 3 valid points as to why we could not close on any of our targets this summer and you blatantly disregard everytime you're faced with an actual argument. We can't pay 12m EU/year in salary, we can't pay 36m for Llorente's buyout clause and we can't make force Viola to sell Jovetic even after we bid 30m for him. Dzeko wasn't even for sale, good luck convincing City - one of the richest clubs in the world if not the richest - to let go of a player they consider key. Money can't make their wish to keep him go away, they're not dependent on player sales to function.

 

[Cheesio]

I thought i didn't even mention Jovetic, nor did i mention RVP.
The strikers i named were Damiao, LLorente and Lewandovski who IMHO are all attainable.
I only argued that theses players are worth 20mil+ if the like of Matri and QUag costs 18& 15 mil.
And all i said that i don't agree with the Isla acquisition even if he's a great player at the expense of other players in position we are more in need of. ( CF & LB ).

 

[Lion]

you haven't even watched llorente, lewandski, or damiao play more than one or two matches.

 

[Cheesio]

Okay. U destroyed me there.

 

[Nzoric]

I thought i didn't even mention Jovetic, nor did i mention RVP.
The strikers i named were Damiao, LLorente and Lewandovski who IMHO are all attainable.
I only argued that theses players are worth 20mil+ if the like of Matri and QUag costs 18& 15 mil.
And all i said that i don't agree with the Isla acquisition even if he's a great player at the expense of other players in position we are more in need of. ( CF & LB ).

There you again with the IMHO. You want to play +20m for Damiao, a brazillian talent who has no performed once in Europe? There is no way such a young and unexperienced striker is going to walk into the starting lineup. First he has to learn the language, then he has to understand the tactics and then he can start getting some playing time. His competition might not be strong, but they know the system and are part of a scudetto winning side - just because a hot name walks into the dressing room doesn't mean he starts over them. Lewandowski is a gamble, the guy only had one good season and the more I watch him the more I'm uncertain of his qualities. He has excellent movement and good control, but his finishing is subpar (and this isn't based on the game yesterday).

How can you say "in my humble opinion we could've got Llorente" when the president of Dildao openly stated that he would not be leaving for less than 36m. Llorente is not a world class striker, he is just very very good. Quite injury prone and on his last year of contract - and you want to pay 36m for him? I'm sorry but we're not that desperate for a striker. Look at what happened to Bayern, they payed 40m for Martinez and are now being sued for additional money because they broke some weird rule that cult of a club have. I'm just asking you to access the situation realistically.

 

[Lion]

it's not just as simple as how much they cost, or can they score goals.

the real factors you want to consider is, can they play in a 3-5-2 or as a loner in a 4-3-3. can they hold up the ball, are the physical, do they have pace, are they technical, do they hassle the the defeneders are they mentally strong?

all these are much more important factores to me than how many goals a striker scored and how much he costs.

and you would not be aksing for any of those 3 you mentioned if they were italian.

 

[Nzoric]

it's not just as simple as how much they cost, or can they score goals.

the real factors you want to consider is, can they play in a 3-5-2 or as a loner in a 4-3-3. can they hold up the ball, are the physical, do they have pace, are they technical, do they hassle the the defeneders are they mentally strong?

all these are much more important factores to me than how many goals a striker scored and how much he costs.

and you would not be aksing for any of those 3 you mentioned if they were italian.

That's secondary, the primary concern is that we could not get any of them even if they did fit like a glove. I'd rather play with Matri up top than pay 36m for fucking Llorente.

 

[Lion]

indeed. as long as villa breathes all else comes second

 

[Nzoric]

Llorente > Villa though.

 

[Cheesio]

@Mer de Noms;

So we can't get WC strikers and we won't take the risk on the young strikers that could turn out to be WC.

Guess we should be satisfied with the firepower we have right now because we won't get any good striker if we aren't willing to spend.

 

[Nzoric]

@Mer de Noms;

So we can't get WC strikers and we won't take the risk on the young strikers that could turn out to be WC.

Guess we should be satisfied with the firepower we have right now because we won't get any good striker if we aren't willing to spend.

Or we could wait and see if Bilbao are interested in selling Llorente for a lower fee this January. Or just make a contract with the player running from 2013-2014 this january and get him for free. Damiao is not certain to become the next big thing and splashing 25m on something uncertain just isn't a luxory we can afford.

 

[Cheesio]

We've been waiting for 3 years, hopefully Marotta has something up his sleeve and will get someone come January.

Altough i think it's more difficult to get Llorente righ now than in the summer, and it would be more difficult if he became a free agent.

 

[Nzoric]

We've been waiting for 3 years, hopefully Marotta has something up his sleeve and will get someone come January.

Altough i think it's more difficult to get Llorente righ now than in the summer, and it would be more difficult if he became a free agent.

We all hope he will get someone in January but truth be told I'm more than happy with the fact that we didn't pay 36m for Llorente.

 

[Lion]

we have a few strikers on co-own. would be interesting to see how immbile and gabbadini perform this season.

porentially we could have some good long term assets on hand for peanuts.

 

[Inglip]

Marotta sucks and should be sacked