[Serie A] Udinese 2-6 JUVENTUS [October 22nd 2017] (1 Viewer)

[Maddy]

It was definitely a rather Bizzarri game @piotrr @Maddy

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Apparently ref said this to Mandzu after his reaction: 'That's a Hallfredsson!'
@Maddy

"Half red son".. damn that's as good as Lasagna

 

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[s4tch]

A mid scores 3 goals in a big victory and he gets 7.5? What is it needed to get 9 or a 10?

khedira is supposed to be a holding/defensive mid in a 4-2-3-1 formation. i'm really happy for him and his 3 goals, he showed once again that one of his main assets is to shoot on target from within the opponents' box, and he had a very good game and a mom performance overall. still, his defensive contribution was next to nothing, and while rugani's passing before the opening goal was terrible, khedira didn't go for that ball at all, and was intercepted by the udinese man way too easily. he's an intelligent player with great experience, but i have a constant feeling about him that he won't give his all for the team. for instance, he's a giant compared to most udinese players, he could have dominated the opponents easily, still, he didn't go for any tackles, caught only 1 single ball (dybala: 1 tackles, 4 interceptions), and only went for 2 duels. i repeat, he played a great game and was absolutely perfect in front of the goal, but bizzarri conceded 6 goals out of 5 shots on target ( ), so some credit should go to him, too.

i don't want to defend marc's ratings (for example, while the ref made a terrible mistake, mandzukic lost his head, he's 4/10 for me; chiellini 6,5; rugani 7 despite that early fuckup), but i'd also rate khedira a strong 7,5-8. gg, still, he could have put a lot more work into sunday's game to get a 10.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

3 goals in a match is an automatic 10, you fuckers.

 

[s4tch]

not even by those ridiculous whoscored standards

 

[Dostoevsky]

khedira is supposed to be a holding/defensive mid in a 4-2-3-1 formation. i'm really happy for him and his 3 goals, he showed once again that one of his main assets is to shoot on target from within the opponents' box, and he had a very good game and a mom performance overall. still, his defensive contribution was next to nothing, and while rugani's passing before the opening goal was terrible, khedira didn't go for that ball at all, and was intercepted by the udinese man way too easily. he's an intelligent player with great experience, but i have a constant feeling about him that he won't give his all for the team. for instance, he's a giant compared to most udinese players, he could have dominated the opponents easily, still, he didn't go for any tackles, caught only 1 single ball (dybala: 1 tackles, 4 interceptions), and only went for 2 duels. i repeat, he played a great game and was absolutely perfect in front of the goal, but bizzarri conceded 6 goals out of 5 shots on target ( ), so some credit should go to him, too.

i don't want to defend marc's ratings (for example, while the ref made a terrible mistake, mandzukic lost his head, he's 4/10 for me; chiellini 6,5; rugani 7 despite that early fuckup), but i'd also rate khedira a strong 7,5-8. gg, still, he could have put a lot more work into sunday's game to get a 10.

I just meant generally. Ratings are almost always 6.5-7 here no matter what happens, even if we win 1-0 or if we nail a 6 goal victory. There's gotta be some logic behind it. I just don't know what has to happen in order for someone to get 8 or a 9, let alone a 10. Some miracle I guess, to see player get wings and start flying around while farting goals.

 

[pitbull]

I just meant generally. Ratings are almost always 6.5-7 here no matter what happens, even if we win 1-0 or if we nail a 6 goal victory. There's gotta be some logic behind it. I just don't know what has to happen in order for someone to get 8 or a 9, let alone a 10. Some miracle I guess, to see player get wings and start flying around while farting goals.

lol not true, there are a lot of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 when we lose

 

[JCK]

3 goals in a match is an automatic 10, you fuckers.

Not the way Italian newspapers rate players.

 

[Dostoevsky]

lol not true, there are a lot of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 when we lose

Read what I wrote after. It's usually how it goes despite the win, be it 1-0 or 6-0.

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Not the way Italian newspapers rate players.

But we don't work for Italian newspapers here.

 

[pitbull]

Read what I wrote after. It's usually how it goes despite the win, be it 1-0 or 6-0.

oh I agree that the ratings are very boring when we win, imo that's because everyone takes winning in Serie A for granted, if Khedira scored a hattrick in CL semi-final everyone would give him a 10 But I fully agree with your point, Khedira scoring the only hattrick of his career warrants more than a 7.5

 

[JCK]

Read what I wrote after. It's usually how it goes despite the win, be it 1-0 or 6-0.

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But we don't work for Italian newspapers here.

Actually the way I do my ratings when I bother I follow their model more or less and it's not in an aim to be writing for them one day but because this is the model I am used to.

 

[Nedved96]

This season reminds me of 2003/2004. We were scoring a lot but also receiving a lot. You know how that season ended.

I don't mind as long as we get to see Gigi in God mode

 

[Marc]

khedira is supposed to be a holding/defensive mid in a 4-2-3-1 formation. i'm really happy for him and his 3 goals, he showed once again that one of his main assets is to shoot on target from within the opponents' box, and he had a very good game and a mom performance overall. still, his defensive contribution was next to nothing, and while rugani's passing before the opening goal was terrible, khedira didn't go for that ball at all, and was intercepted by the udinese man way too easily. he's an intelligent player with great experience, but i have a constant feeling about him that he won't give his all for the team. for instance, he's a giant compared to most udinese players, he could have dominated the opponents easily, still, he didn't go for any tackles, caught only 1 single ball (dybala: 1 tackles, 4 interceptions), and only went for 2 duels. i repeat, he played a great game and was absolutely perfect in front of the goal, but bizzarri conceded 6 goals out of 5 shots on target ( ), so some credit should go to him, too.

i don't want to defend marc's ratings (for example, while the ref made a terrible mistake, mandzukic lost his head, he's 4/10 for me; chiellini 6,5; rugani 7 despite that early $#@!up), but i'd also rate khedira a strong 7,5-8. gg, still, he could have put a lot more work into sunday's game to get a 10.

Well said.

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3 goals in a match is an automatic 10, you $#@!ers.

No, it's not.

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not even by those ridiculous whoscored standards

Exactly.

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I just meant generally. Ratings are almost always 6.5-7 here no matter what happens, even if we win 1-0 or if we nail a 6 goal victory. There's gotta be some logic behind it. I just don't know what has to happen in order for someone to get 8 or a 9, let alone a 10. Some miracle I guess, to see player get wings and start flying around while farting goals.

Imo, our best performance this season was 4-0 vs Torino while I was banned.

Fantastic display by Juve, by far the best this season, imo. Here are my ratings:

Buffon 6
Licht 6,5
Benatia 7
Chiellini 6,5
AS 7
Matuidi 6,5
Pjanić 7,5
Cudrado 7
Dybala 7,5
Costa 6,5
Mandžo 7

Every player was good, few were excellent, standout performances by Pjanić and Dybala. My MOM vote goes to Pjanić, just for the sake of not giving it to Dybala every freakin' time.

Here are my ratings for that match:

Buffon 6
Licht 6,5
Benatia 7
Chiellini 6,5
A.S. 7
Pjanić 7,5
Matuidi 6,5
Cuadrado 7
Berna 6,5
Dybala 7,5
D. Costa 6,5
Mandžukić 7

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lol not true, there are a lot of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 when we lose

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Not the way Italian newspapers rate players.

Also true.

 

[JuveJay]

10 should be something like an outstanding performance in an important final or tournament game. There are always 9s for everything else.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Not if you're playing FIFA, where a hattrick guarantees a 10.

 

[Bianconero81]

FIFA is shit anyway.

 

[JuveJay]

Not if you're playing FIFA, where a hattrick guarantees a 10.

Real life I'm thinking something like Ronaldinho vs Real Madrid or Henry vs Inter at San Siro, that kind of thing. Pirlo vs England for me as an example would be a 9.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Real life I'm thinking something like Ronaldinho vs Real Madrid or Henry vs Inter at San Siro, that kind of thing. Pirlo vs England for me as an example would be a 9.

I know, I get your point.

But I guess it could be argued that every game should be rated individually, regardless of context.

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FIFA is shit anyway.

The fact that they don't have servers in South America for FUT Champions makes me want to agree with you.

I mean, ffs, they have servers in the US for goddamn people who call the sport soccer.

 

[Marc]

Not if you're playing FIFA, where a hattrick guarantees a 10.

Or Football Manager.

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FIFA is $#@! anyway.

PES ftw.

 

[piotrr]

"Half red son".. damn that's as good as Lasagna

@Ocelot doesn't seem to appreciate this one

 

[Ocelot]

@Ocelot doesn't seem to appreciate this one

I Lovren it, probably the best so far.