[Serie A] Treviso - Juventus (18 Viewers)
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Lippi did not buy Trez, ancelotti did, you are asking why didnt we win the cl in his second spell and you say getting to the final of cl is a failure but at the same time you want to give reasons why we continually struggle in Cl with Capello in charge, yes you really do love Lippi, thats is very obviuos coming from your posts. we draw 0-0 wth Treviso and you try to bring up positives, we lose 2-0 to Arsenal and you go w actually played well until they scored but somehow Lippi was a failure. You keep on bringing up 04 season saying it was a disaster but we did come 3rd and we were leading at some phase but Milan were quite simply outstanding that season, if its the same Milan with the same intensity, this season, they definitely would have been top. Lippi had already decided he was leaving at the end of the season, that always spells disaster for any club whenever your coach decides he is leaving, Moggi had a disagreement with Davids , so our best midfielder was gone, Dp and Trez missed most of the season and their replacements like Miccolli was always injured. It was the same season we beat a team in Cl 7-0 or something to equal highest win in cl history. Leggrotaglie was a disaster as well as Montero and Iuliano. Lippi does not decide who to bring in but Moggi does and apparently we did not have that much money and you know Moggi's policy, if it aint broke dont fix it, no foresight there at all. How on earth can you call Salas a good buy? Lippi actually won the league with Baiocco in our squad. How can you compare both managers? Vinman mentioned Nedved's absence in the final but people always forget that Davids went off injured in the first half, so that was 2 key players missing in a game. I dont know, man, there is nothing that you have said at all that has vindicated Capello. How can you say this squad is only good on paper? Its not their fault they are crap in Europe, it is the manager who keeps on putting players out of position and tactics that are antiquated thats the cause
- i said time and again that am a keen admirer of lippi, and his tactical greatness at some times. and i didnt say he was a complete failure, only his CL campain over the years.
the thing am saying is that although performances were substantially better but the evantual result was almost the same...which is not winning the CL.
which although for 2 seasons we main aim was the CL. There was improvements how ever the eventual goal was achieved.
Which is the same case with this season, so untill now our campain is failure.
-about salas, i remember him being very good with lazio... and he wasnt a cheap but as i remember.
-the game trevisio game was an improvement on the last performances we had.
-a couple of years later ppl r going to say capello won the league with blasi(he seems unpopular, in the forum but i like him)in the squad.
- well i remember the 04 season, and everyone was saying that Lippi should leave cuz of the dreadful performances that year, not only cuz milan were having a fantastic season. Lippi's rotation system had failed him badly that year.
-And one point i would like to recall is that in Lippi days he was relying on indvidual performances to save "some" matches, much like capello these days
the thing am saying is that although performances were substantially better but the evantual result was almost the same...which is not winning the CL.
which although for 2 seasons we main aim was the CL. There was improvements how ever the eventual goal was achieved.
Which is the same case with this season, so untill now our campain is failure.
-about salas, i remember him being very good with lazio... and he wasnt a cheap but as i remember.
-the game trevisio game was an improvement on the last performances we had.
-a couple of years later ppl r going to say capello won the league with blasi(he seems unpopular, in the forum but i like him)in the squad.
- well i remember the 04 season, and everyone was saying that Lippi should leave cuz of the dreadful performances that year, not only cuz milan were having a fantastic season. Lippi's rotation system had failed him badly that year.
-And one point i would like to recall is that in Lippi days he was relying on indvidual performances to save "some" matches, much like capello these days
You are not seriously comparing Blasi to Baiocco are you? About Salas , even at Lazio he was a reserve team player who played a lot of games admittedly but he was not a first team player and he is not as good ans any of the current strikers we have now save for Zalayeta. I am not win Cl at all costs kind of guy and I am not having a go at Capello for failing to win Cl, I do not do things like that, what i cannot abide is the insipid performances under Capello. The completely pragmatic approach to football whereby tactics never change, players are always out or position and at no time do we rotate properly. Where are the Eboues, the Fabregases, Gilberts in our team? He continues to use the old foggies in every game and you wonder why they are all tired mentally and physically and cnnot produce a performance worth a damn. He never tries anyone, Balzaretti has been his biggest success, he never tried Gladstone at all, is that not madness? We were beaten by kids because Wenger gave them a chance and is never afraid to do so but here its always the same players. I mean Nedved played about 20 games whereby he sucked big time, but time and time again he kept on fielding him. He is back in some kind of form but is he really any where near the form of players like Fabregas and Henry? Mutu ought to be played as a second striker but at no time this season has he played in that role. You mentined that we played well against Inter, Roma away, and Bayern, well i didnt see the Inter at home and Bayern at home so i cannot comment but we won 4-1 against Roma but were clinical not brilliant in that gme. Well we have played like 40 games thisseason and you can only point to 4 where we played well, is that not a nonsense to you?