Serie A: Roma vs Juventus [September 23 2007] (34 Viewers)

Sep 19, 2006
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Iaquinta: “We never give up”


Vincenzo Iaquinta was definitely the man of the match today. On from the start alongside Trezeguet and Del Piero, he was decisive with an assist and the final equalizer: a performance worthy of a World Champion like him.

The player expressed all his joy after the match: “It was a tough game against a great team. We played well, we showed that we never give up and we always believe in ourselves. This is a valuable draw, we have to keep calm and keep on like this. Three up front? In the first half Trezeguet and me played a little further up field, with Del Piero behind us, while in the second half the Manager asked me to stay wide and try and put pressure on Roma on the wings, I'd say the experiment went well”.



Forza Iaquinta
 

narchi

Junior Member
Jul 2, 2006
224
Shit performance, lucky to get a point.

Iaquinta was our MOTM. He did the most running, and played hard for 90 minutes.

Our midfield is unable to string together a series of passes. We make 2 simple passes than longball it upfront to Iaquinta or Del Piero.

Nedved and Del Piero were poor and should have been taken off earlier.'

Our defense is shit. No organization and lazy marking. It was pathetic how easily Roma were stretching our defense. We were very lucky to not concede more. Perrotta missed 2 sitters where he was all by himself.

Im not liking Ranieri either. He still doesn't have a set 11 or formation, so how is the team suppose to build any chemistry? Y did he sub Criscito? Yes he made a mistake on the Totti goal, but putting Legro in is even worse. Plus once Andrade went off, we were without a natural cb to put on. His reluctance to give Palladino more playing time is frustrating. We need some1 with pace and good ball control on the pitch.

Grygera played decent, considering it was his 1st game of the season. He didn't make any obvious mistakes, unlike the rest of the defence.
I agree with you completly. Ranieri should change DP and Neddy, but because of injury and because he already change Criscito he didn't have a chance.
Criscito is too weak and this was the only reason for the first goal. He should just change Chiellini's and Criscito's place. And also when Andrade was injured I was expecting to see Chiellini in the CB and Molinaro in LB. Maybe I'm to harsh but Biri is not good enough anymore.
I also couldn't understand that we didn't play Tiago, we gave 13 mio EUR for him and now he is only on the bench. I still think that he could gave us something special. I didn't saw any good pass from our midfield, so I was expecting someone who could pass some ball's to our attack. If we have a creative midfielder today I'm sure that we will win this game. Nedved didn't have the best game today. IMO he was too slow.
We score twice. Once from counterattack and once from interruption. I wouldn't blame DP for missing PK, because everyone could miss it. After all I think it was a good PK and if it was a little lower , Doni wouldn't have a chance. But as I mention before our attacker didn't get any usefull ball from our midfield and beacuse of that we must be happy with a point. But if we are honest Roma was better team today.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
I only want to point out one thing for further discussion,
its our formation, i ve been one of the first guys to blame Capp's and DD's insist on using the same ol flat 4-4-2
and i am now jubilant to see that our new coach is willing to try out an alternative solution and adopt the team over the situation and the opponent.
I ve very pleased on CR formation for this game,
considering the fact that both of our RMs (Marchio+Camo) were our of the picture that would be wiser to use the more attacking 4-3-3.
(The only question that arises here is the selection of Nocerino in front of Salih,
who is more appropriate for this position, CR maybe chosed Rino because he is better defensively Salih might not be fit)
Opting for this attacking formation, was the right choice that, (one way or another) was proved good enough, to score 2 goals against the only defense in Serie A that hasnt conceded a goal by then!
A formation that can help us overcome the creative problems that haunted our midfield for a very very long period of time...

BUT the problem is the selection of the right material for the job,
we paid over 30 mil euros for Tiago and Almiron and we are keeping them on the bench,
while, we have to use poor old Neddy off position, were evidently, he cannot provide the quality we are used of, for a variety of reasons
and the youngster Nocerino in a position than, evidently, cant handle, for a variety of reasons.

There is smth very wrong here, its other a very wrong tactical solution and selection of material by our coach,
either a disastrous summer transfer campaign,
or a combination of them.

Despite the most evident problem in the defense, witch, as far as i am concerned,it was a deliberate choice and a calculated risk by our management,
we also have to consider this hidden midfield problem,
there is a lot of things to be done in this team
and we have to appreciate our players and coach one more time for their work despite those circumstances...

This draw equals with a victory in our condition,
Roma will not be in world class form all the season, our team managed to cope well against one of the most fit formations in the world, despite the great gap of quality, in players and managerial staff !
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
How is that possible? He pushed him away from kicking the ball? If totti hasn't done that the ball would have been cleared.


IMO, Criscito was pushing Totti as much as Totti was pushing him, IMO there's no way that would have happened to Andrade. Criscito misjudged the tackle and was simply to weak, which is something that we cant have. Imagine Criiscito in a duel with Zlatan, he'd get eaten alive.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
IMO, Criscito was pushing Totti as much as Totti was pushing him, IMO there's no way that would have happened to Andrade. Criscito misjudged the tackle and was simply to weak, which is something that we cant have. Imagine Criiscito in a duel with Zlatan, he'd get eaten alive.

U mean u or Ibra?:rofl:
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,514
First there was no foul on Criscito, he is just too much weaker than Totti.

The second about Del Piero, he had a bad game or better to be said he is having a bad season so far, but still is one of a key figures in our team. When you saw him applauding to our players from the bench and showing them that they have only one minute to hold on and it's over than you realise how much he means to this team. I mean he acted like real captain, and that is sometimes more important than scoring goals. Alex will be himself again (I think when contract negotiations came to an end) till than we should not over-criticise him or over-protect. Just sit him on bench for two games and he will be motivated again.
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,706
Defenders, they were all ok except for one player and that is Criscito, I said that before, this kid isn't up to it, he's horrible has no talent and shouldn't even be playing for such a club. Ranieri should do us a favor and keep him on the bench and NEVER play him. Get rid of him in January.
How incredibly shortsighted. Not to mention uncalled for.

Anyway Criscito's partner in crime, Andrade hasn't really done much better so far. Tough luck to Andrade, as I wouldn't wish such an injury on anyone, but to be honest I don't think we'll miss him much; he hasn't really left an impression on me.
 
Sep 19, 2006
1,221
First there was no foul on Criscito, he is just too much weaker than Totti.

The second about Del Piero, he had a bad game or better to be said he is having a bad season so far, but still is one of a key figures in our team. When you saw him applauding to our players from the bench and showing them that they have only one minute to hold on and it's over than you realise how much he means to this team. I mean he acted like real captain, and that is sometimes more important than scoring goals. Alex will be himself again (I think when contract negotiations came to an end) till than we should not over-criticise him or over-protect. Just sit him on bench for two games and he will be motivated again.
:tup:
Forza Alex
 

C4ISR

Senior Member
Dec 18, 2005
2,362
Do it yourself then with those injuries. i liked the way we played. Should delpiero be in form then roma was done. Our midfield with presence of zanetti is a little bit solid. Nocerino invisible yes but did the necessary nedded to control. The main problem is our defence though. And for all u can't blame CR. He did not sign almion and tiago :sick:
Almiron wasn't injured, so y didn't he play? Being the 'tinkerman' sounds good and all, but in reality teams need time to gel, and switching around players in midfield every game isn't going to help.
 
Sep 19, 2006
1,221
How incredibly shortsighted. Not to mention uncalled for.

Anyway Criscito's partner in crime, Andrade hasn't really done much better so far. Tough luck to Andrade, as I wouldn't wish such an injury on anyone, but to be honest I don't think we'll miss him much; he hasn't really left an impression on me.
2 strong Defenders in January is a must if this team want to continue competing for a CL sopt with teams like Milan,Fiorentina & Palermo.

Criscito has potential but in Man Marking & in the air he is still so weak,he needs a lot of improvement to be able to start for Juve.

Hey u were the only one suggesting to play Zanetti & Nocerino & bench both Tiago & Almiron & u were right.
Ranieri knew that he had no chance of controlling the game & thats why he did this.
It was smart from him.
 

juventino12

Junior Member
Jan 20, 2007
92
It seems that Iaquinta had another solid game. He set up the first goal and scored the second and he also sent in a lot of crosses. I remember when we first signed him the majority of the people on here were pissed off and said it was a waste of money etc. well, what do you have to say now?
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,706
2 strong Defenders in January is a must if this team want to continue competing for a CL sopt with teams like Milan,Fiorentina & Palermo.
Yes we certainly need at least one additional defender. My point was though, that we needed one regardless of Andrade's injury.

Criscito has potential but in Man Marking & in the air he is still so weak,he needs a lot of improvement to be able to start for Juve.
He needs to improve of course, but to say he has no talent and should be sold..

Hey u were the only one suggesting to play Zanetti & Nocerino & bench both Tiago & Almiron & u were right.
Ranieri knew that he had no chance of controlling the game & thats why he did this.
It was smart from him.

Well analysed, huh? :D
 

The Arif

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2004
12,564
So, Secco said that Juve will go on the transfer market if needed. If we lose Andrade, we bloody should go on the transfer market. Do you think we will buy another defender? And will we get experienced, classy defender? Or will we get a hot prospect like Ivanovic or Zapata?

Even if we didn't lose Andrade, we needed to go on the transfer market to buy a defender, but now we'll need two, hopefully an experienced defender and a hot prospect, but two experienced defenders wouldn't hurt us.
 

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