Serie A: Palermo vs Juventus [April 6th, 2008] (1 Viewer)

Mar 14, 2004
4,926
Who Amauri??
You get it wrong, Amauri plays for a mid table team, they use him as a CF, but if he joins us, he wont the CF, he will join Treze in the offense and Treze will be our main target man. Amauri will be brought to do Dp's,Iaquinta;s and Palla's job.
NUT without the usual service and attention he has in Palermo, he wont have this assistance but he will have to face all the lack of creativity we suffer, plus the immense pressure in the team, he must immediately deliver or else, world champions like DP and Iaquinta will take his place. Amauri has never faced such a challenge, many players collapse when the do face such a challenge, esp at this age (28) IMO it is already too late for Amauri to try his lack in a very competitive team, if he was a couple of years younger, that would be ok.
Just look at Iaquinta and Luca Toni, these guys are fine examples, they played in the same league, they shines in their middle table teams and they switched to bigger ones too late, now its too late to make an impact.
And if you think that Amauri will help us resolve our creativity problems, think again.
Where was Amauri in the second half, when Palermo couldnt come forward, how many chances did he create?? How many times did he made the difference without the superiority of his team to back him up???
Bla bla bla.....bunch of BS as usual here....so let's start with a set of questions,answer as simple as you can....

Who scored? Amauri or Treze?
Who scored twice?
Whose team won?
 

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Albertmare

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Mar 24, 2006
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:shocked:
Sissoko was great Last night with the Penetration on the 1st goal :tup:


Btw , Mattia Cassani is our ex-Primavera player , right ?

I'm Not Shocking with this Lost , This was a sitter for Ranieri , Booo , He think he's God after some Good Result before Palermo game .

Boooo.

Would be Fun if we Beat Milan , really .
Scudetto just a bit Dream for this season Under This Clown Helm .
 

gsol

Senior Member
Oct 14, 2007
1,448
It’s unfortunate when things like this occur in soccer but it is part of the game. You can’t blame the team as they clearly dominated Palermo and the statistics reflect that. Shots on goal and ball possession were lopsided to put it lightly but in the end the goals count and sometimes the wrong team wins.

In my opinion it doesn’t speak well of the league when a giant goes down to a team who’s strategy is to play a 10-0-0 formation for 88 minutes. Juventus have suffered losses and draws to teams like Palermo, Cagliari, Reggina,Torino, Empoli etc. because of this playing style and others have as well (Roma against Empoli, Inter to Atalanta and Napoli) and truthfully I think it has gotten worse since the league increased the number of teams in Serie A ultimately allowing 2 more low level squads (in addition to the 4 or 5 already present) access into the topflight.

If I were in a position of power at FIFA, UEFA, or the FIGC I’d establish rules that deter coaches from implementing such strategies (something along the lines of “no more than 8 players from a squad inside their own 18”). Frankly it would force teams to develop more offensively and create a better league overall. A least at the end of the 90 minutes the odds will favor the team that is better rather than the one that simply stood in the path of 26 shots.

That being said you can’t blame anyone for the loss. So long as there are teams out their content to sit in their own 18 for 98% of the game it will continue. Just think, if today were a tournament, Juventus would be out and Palermo would be through. Flukes can occur but today was simply wrong. Juventus didn’t play poorly and even a draw would have been unfair. It’s unfortunate, but this is Serie A.
 
Mar 30, 2006
3,747
Who Amauri??
You get it wrong, Amauri plays for a mid table team, they use him as a CF, but if he joins us, he wont the CF, he will join Treze in the offense and Treze will be our main target man. Amauri will be brought to do Dp's,Iaquinta;s and Palla's job.
NUT without the usual service and attention he has in Palermo, he wont have this assistance but he will have to face all the lack of creativity we suffer, plus the immense pressure in the team, he must immediately deliver or else, world champions like DP and Iaquinta will take his place. Amauri has never faced such a challenge, many players collapse when the do face such a challenge, esp at this age (28) IMO it is already too late for Amauri to try his lack in a very competitive team, if he was a couple of years younger, that would be ok.
Just look at Iaquinta and Luca Toni, these guys are fine examples, they played in the same league, they shines in their middle table teams and they switched to bigger ones too late, now its too late to make an impact.
And if you think that Amauri will help us resolve our creativity problems, think again.
Where was Amauri in the second half, when Palermo couldnt come forward, how many chances did he create?? How many times did he made the difference without the superiority of his team to back him up???
Amauri would get more chances with better players around him dude. Just think he had like 2 chances tonight and scored 2 goals. Look how many chances our strikers got today.. alot

Amauri can dribble, pass, shoot, head and has some creativity. Why wouldn't we want him in our team.

Juve will not sell Giovinco to Palermo.. that i am positive of. At mest they might loan him there next season to develop further if they don't think he is ready to be one of our main creative forces. I could see us using Palla, Nocerino, Volpato, De Ceglie or maby Marchisio .. but not Giovinco .. not for a permanent transfer.


As for Amauri he is better than Iaquinta and Palladino. Del Piero will probably only play one game a week because he picks up injuries and loses form when played too much do I would expect Amauri to partner Trez or Iaquinta in every other game we play. Or we could see a trident of Amauri- Trez- DP ..


But I have always thought Amauri was a great player. I questioned his form before this game but i was proved wrong. He is clearly back to his best and will be a great asset to our strike force next season. If we can sign him.

And what kind of example is Iaquinta and Toni? they both played once they matures (Toni very late) but both have proven themselves over time and are still doing good. Toni is playing well for Munich and broke records for Fiorentina while Iaquinta is doing great here considering he is not even a starter. I think it is foolish to say that Amauri is too old. He has been playing very well for the last 2 years and is at his peak now... perfect time to bring him in to compete for titles. He has experience, has refined his craft, has talent and still has his fitness.

Amauri wont single handedly help us resolve our creative problems but that is not expected of him. Goals are his main job. As we saw today he can create chances for himself and does have some creative flare but with DP being 34 next season we will need to use him very sparingly. Trez is on the wrong side of 30 as well so unless you want to play DP-Trez in the CL against say Man Utd .. then 3 days later player them again against Inter when they will be tired, over worked and risking injury or go with Palla - Iaquinta for one big game and DP-Trez or whatever for the next. We need to buy another good striker. Amauri is our guy.

He is hungry, talented, in shape, serie A experience and will be a very valuable player.
 

Vinman

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Jul 16, 2002
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here are my comments the day before the Intermerda game-

if we are lucky enough to win tomorrow, then you can bet the bank that we will lose our next 2-3 games with this fool in charge
true to script, Juve loses against Palermo, a less than average team this season who we slapped around in our first meeting

Compliment RUINeri all you guys want, but he wont get us to the promised land of Scudetti and CL appearances

Its not too late for us to blow this whole thing, and see Fiorentina and Milan take 3rd and 4th place respectively

Nocerino should never be allowed to start again, and was anyone else getting pissed off at all of our shots from 30+ meters ?? Only Palermo was lucky enough to pull that one off today

3 goals from 3 shots ?? That's what I call a bad day for us

DP was MOM, but Momo comes in at a close second
 

Max

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2003
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here are my comments the day before the Intermerda game-



true to script, Juve loses against Palermo, a less than average team this season who we slapped around in our first meeting

Compliment RUINeri all you guys want, but he wont get us to the promised land of Scudetti and CL appearances

Its not too late for us to blow this whole thing, and see Fiorentina and Milan take 3rd and 4th place respectively

Nocerino should never be allowed to start again, and was anyone else getting pissed off at all of our shots from 30+ meters ?? Only Palermo was lucky enough to pull that one off today

3 goals from 3 shots ?? That's what I call a bad day for us

DP was MOM, but Momo comes in at a close second
Good call, man. It totally spoiled a Sunday evening for me...
 

Juve11

Junior Member
Mar 3, 2008
280
WOW. That sucks!!!

I wont really comment on indiviual players but I will just say to Dondani I hope you saw Alex today he has been do this all season Bravo DP.

Why do we start on the back foot against Palermo I couldnt care where we play them we are JUVENTUS not them. To be 2-0 down is a slap in the face!!!

Second half was total domination which it should be like from the start we scored 2 but really should have had 4.

Trezeguet couldnt have scored to save his life today it just wasnt his or our night.

Palermo got the points but we showed we are CLEARLY the better side.

We must get atleast a point from Milan minimum a loss and we could be in trouble for the top4.

Milan Atatlanta Lazio Seina Catania Sampadria and Parma

6 games to go and a game in hand the table looks a little worse then it should if we had of picked up 3 points against parma.

If we even get a draw with parma that leaves us 7 points clear of milan and Sampdoria.

with 6 games left that 18 pints we must get a minimum of 11 points

we should earn points off

Atalanta
Lazio at home
Seina
Catania
as a minimum

I hate wating soo long till the next game WE NEED an Inter win and for atleat a draw then beat Parma and they will almost get us to a spot in the CL!
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
83,483
here are my comments the day before the Intermerda game-



true to script, Juve loses against Palermo, a less than average team this season who we slapped around in our first meeting

Compliment RUINeri all you guys want, but he wont get us to the promised land of Scudetti and CL appearances

Its not too late for us to blow this whole thing, and see Fiorentina and Milan take 3rd and 4th place respectively

Nocerino should never be allowed to start again, and was anyone else getting pissed off at all of our shots from 30+ meters ?? Only Palermo was lucky enough to pull that one off today

3 goals from 3 shots ?? That's what I call a bad day for us

DP was MOM, but Momo comes in at a close second
We were due for a let down after Inter -- and playing a club that hadn't won in 5 matches, and whom we embarrassed 5-0 last time at our home. But no one could have predicted how precise their few shots would be.

Late in the first half, I too noted the frustration setting in when the team started going for 25-30m dribblers right to Fontana rather than trying to build and create something. Fortunately we didn't abandon that in the second half. But still, the outcome sucks. But we didn't deserve better.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
Well the game we all love can be so cruel sometimes, but it comes with the territory. Lets have a look at the events leading to this game and see how we managed to play that horrible first half :

- We beat the champs then we have a week off, that would've always lead to the some uncertainty with the players as well as losing some of their concentration. Its not a major factor though.

- Ranieri and Chiellini talking about the scudetto and Trezi talking about the milan game. All three were off their game but the CR managed to turn it around in the 2nd half.

Then comes that 2nd half where we played a great half but still managed to miss those chances. Thats where you get bitten and we will always get bitten. We didn't finish them off when we should've. Its a story of the our season tbh and its really frustrating against those mid table teams.

@Cronios and ppl blaming gigi for the goals:
Our defense let us down three times and gigi cant do anything about it. Both chiellini and legro were spectators on both the first goals. WTF were they thinking especially the 2nd, Amauri got a free header 8 yards out without getting challenged! And the third one player got out to close down the player outside of the box and he wasn't that far away from the box! We lost concentration three times and we can't afford that.

I was disappointed in Trezi not for the miss after the Alex free kick but for that ball that hit the side netting as that was his bread and butter.

Alex and mommo played a top game. Camo did very well too and as the game progressed Tiago played better. Its a shame we couldn't get rewarded.

Lets hope we lift back for the milan game because they are on the up themselves and will not give us an inch injuries or not.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,412
Bla bla bla.....bunch of BS as usual here....so let's start with a set of questions,answer as simple as you can....

Who scored? Amauri or Treze?
Who scored twice?
Whose team won?
If this is the way that you judge things, the i am sorry for you narrowed mind mentality and i see there is nothing else to discuss with you...:soapit:

(BS?? as usual??? ) That means that you actually were here and read some of my previous post match reports??

Amauri would get more chances with better players around him dude. Just think he had like 2 chances tonight and scored 2 goals. Look how many chances our strikers got today.. alot
They said exactly the same thing for Gila in Milan, luckily for them, Gila is still very young...

Amauri can dribble, pass, shoot, head and has some creativity. Why wouldn't we want him in our team.
Juve will not sell Giovinco to Palermo.. that i am positive of. At mest they might loan him there next season to develop further if they don't think he is ready to be one of our main creative forces. I could see us using Palla, Nocerino, Volpato, De Ceglie or maby Marchisio .. but not Giovinco .. not for a permanent transfer.
As for Amauri he is better than Iaquinta and Palladino. Del Piero will probably only play one game a week because he picks up injuries and loses form when played too much do I would expect Amauri to partner Trez or Iaquinta in every other game we play. Or we could see a trident of Amauri- Trez- DP ..
But I have always thought Amauri was a great player. I questioned his form before this game but i was proved wrong. He is clearly back to his best and will be a great asset to our strike force next season. If we can sign him.
And what kind of example is Iaquinta and Toni? they both played once they matures (Toni very late) but both have proven themselves over time and are still doing good. Toni is playing well for Munich and broke records for Fiorentina while Iaquinta is doing great here considering he is not even a starter. I think it is foolish to say that Amauri is too old. He has been playing very well for the last 2 years and is at his peak now... perfect time to bring him in to compete for titles. He has experience, has refined his craft, has talent and still has his fitness.
Amauri wont single handedly help us resolve our creative problems but that is not expected of him. Goals are his main job. As we saw today he can create chances for himself and does have some creative flare but with DP being 34 next season we will need to use him very sparingly. Trez is on the wrong side of 30 as well so unless you want to play DP-Trez in the CL against say Man Utd .. then 3 days later player them again against Inter when they will be tired, over worked and risking injury or go with Palla - Iaquinta for one big game and DP-Trez or whatever for the next. We need to buy another good striker. Amauri is our guy.
He is hungry, talented, in shape, serie A experience and will be a very valuable player.
I agree that Amauri is better than the current Palla, slightly better than Iaquinta and even (probably) more effective than next year's (older) DP.
Amauri would certainly add smth to our team, i rate him as a player and i respect him.I even bought him for PES 2008 team:spliff:
As a Juve fan i have no problems with him and i wish we had him or even better strikers in our team, like Drogba and Henry.
BUT, strikers is not our fcken priority and Amauri despite being good,
he is seriously over-priced and most important UNPROVEN, it is easily to shine in a team like Palermo, as easily it was for Iaquinta to shine in Udinese and for Gila to shine in Parma, but when these players come to a bigger team, they cant come up with raising difficulties and the challenging moments. And even if they do, they are not as good and as shiny as they were with their previous, smaller team.
Very very few players, get through this level and prove them selves in great teams, like Juve, however you like at it, signing Amauri is a great risk and right now, we dont have the luxuri of taking that risk.
You people ignore that our team is crippled, we dont even have a full,decent, first eleven team and we are forced to use guys like Molinaro, Nocerino and Grygera,
we depend on the nearly retired Neddy to win almost every game for us and we rarely ever get to win a game without him making the difference on the pitch.
We have absolutely no cover in some position (like the LB) and zero reliability back up solution, players like Andrade, Marchionni and Zebina, that would supposedly step in when needed, are never available due to injuries!
These are real problems and our number priorities, is to fix them before proceed to further fine tunings upfront!!
We still have one of the best attacks in serie A and the group of our attackers is the least problem we have, those guys can handle the situation, better than the rest of our lines. They proved that if they are served properly, they can deliver.
We need to fix our real problems and our financial situation barely allows to do that, let alone spend a real fortune on Amauri.
Amauri wont solve any of our problems in defense, he wont solve our creativity problems either, as a Juve fan, i also hope that there is a magic solution out there that would make our team fly. But Amauri isnt the answer to our question,
our faulty material and tactics are.
IF we resolve all of our real problems first, then its ok to bring secondary targets as Amauri, Robinho, Crouch, Di Michele, Adriano etc etc

Another great issue is, that our managers are a bunch of clueless, pathetic noobs, that have absolutely no idea, how to run a bif club like Juventus.
We need to make a big strategic plan and stick with out.
Juventus is severely injured, we need to heal up fast and cover the lost ground,
but instead they keep make some mistakes and repeat them.
Almost every single transfer we made in the post Moggi era, was proved to be a failure in the end. If we take a look to Andrade, Almiro and Tiago, players that were supposed to form up a new backbone and help us build the Juve of the future, we will understand how awfully wrong, our managers really were, luckily for us, some of our older champions are still present and they are still good enough to make the difference but they wont last forever and the investments made by the Agnelli family wont last forever too, if we keep being unwise and waste all of our transfer budget like we did this year, we will never grow up powerful again. A solid squad isnt build with a player, but with a solid team, with good players in every position.
We cant have Molinaro, Legro and Grygera in the defense and hope that Amauri will score more goals than they will concede, ffs we are playing in Europe next year!!! And what happen if Neddy retires or gets injured???

And one last thing referring to our youngsters. Juve never really had to depend on youngsters, most of the times they were proved to be "not good enough" for our senior team and we were always powerful and wealthy enough to buy the most promising material of other teams.
BUT thing have changed now, we are not as wealthy and powerful anymore and our future depends to our youngster more, then every other time.
Luckily we have a very good crop growing up and it seems that Criscito, Giovinco, De Ceglie and Marchisio will become players, good enough to play in every Italian team and they will surely find their way in the NT. Ihave seen those players many times and serie b, we had the times to see them play side by side with our current champions, De Ceglie and Marchisio are very very promising players and they happen to play in places that we are going to have enhanced. Since we offload Olivera, Almiron and probably sent away Nocerino and Tiago too, we are destined to fill up our roster with a destined sub, Marchisio is ideal for the job, he is young and promising, he cant be a sub that wont complain and grow good enough to become a starter as Zanetti grows older and most important, he is free. Why would we waste such a talent that we so desperately need? Why would create one more hole in our team to fix a non broken issue??
De Ceglie is also a very very useful all around tool, he can cover positions in our midfield and in our great weakness, the lest flank. He is also the definition of the perfect back up solution for those places and a very hot future prospect. These guys happen to be our most promising material, among with Giovinco and they have grown enough that are already able to help us. We really need those players now, more than every other time, even if we strengthen those players, we need that depth to fight in 3 fronts.

To sign a 4 SS is mostly unwise and unnecessary, give away our future and prospect and half of our next summer transfer among would be a great strategical and tactical mistake, that would lead to further problems and no way out routes.
Why would we sacrifice all this for the 28 year old Amauri,
because he might quickly adapt and help our team,just a bit more efficient and a couple of years more, than DP and Iaquinta...:cookie:

This are the reasons i dont want Amauri and any other overpriced SS of his range and age in our team now, not that i dont rate him.
I am afraid that our incompetent managers and coach, might actually consider that Amauri can be a quick fix and we wont have to invest properly to buy good enough players for every position we suffer and keep those idiotic formations, CR comes up with, hoping that Amauri will be more efficient than our desperate long balls and absolutely no attacking plans. Well he wont, Amauri disappeared in the second half, when his team lost the control the control of the game, he didnt create any chances all by himself as you said, he only used the superiority of his team to score 2 magnificent goals that Trezequet, DP and Iaquinta had scored in different cases, just because he scored 2 goals for Palermo, doesnt mean that he could score 2 more goals for us if he was in our side
and if Palermo had Iaquinta and the later would score those 2 goals, we would still lose the game, i m confident the majority of Juventuz members are smarter and they have seen enough to go beyond this mentality(unlike barkuss)...
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,412
@Cronios and ppl blaming gigi for the goals:
Our defense let us down three times and gigi cant do anything about it. Both chiellini and legro were spectators on both the first goals. WTF were they thinking especially the 2nd, Amauri got a free header 8 yards out without getting challenged! And the third one player got out to close down the player outside of the box and he wasn't that far away from the box! We lost concentration three times and we can't afford that.
Unlike barkuss, i do not judge by the results alone,i dont blame him just for the sheer fact that he conceded 3 goals,
i watch every match, carefully, and i watch the replays and decide then, as objective as i can, filtering my pro Juve emotions.
We all love Gigi and i am no exception to this rule, we all hope that he will help us to build a great team and a be a part of it, adding some great, superhuman performances to it.
Gigi is loyal to our cause and blaming him would add nothing to our moral and his!

BUT i dont work with moral, i work with facts, Buffon faces a back problem right now, that affects his mobility and probably his mentality, he is not as agile/mobile as before and he doesnt take those leaps of faith, to try and block those shots 90% of the keepers cant.Even if he is not in pain, he refrains of taking unnecessary risks and i cant blame him for that as his fan.
Due to idleness though, Buffon had wrong positioning in two cases and the third goal was very well, in his range, he would easily block it with a jump, the ball wasnt flying that fast and he saw the direction of her when she was launched!

Though apparently i have no reason to blame him, i do it because today, i believe he could do more, at least, he should try to do more, i gave him that rate, not because of hate, but because i think he could better and because it was the kind of games that didnt gave him the opportunity to prove his value, apart from the goals, Buffon had very little implication in the game, thats not his fault but certainly did hurt his ratings as far as i am concerned.

Our defense is tragic at times, but the rest of our team isnt any less innocent,
the increasing pressure on our defense in the first half was due to the fact that we were totally inefficient up front and failed to create any chances and keep Palermo back, they were gaining ground and in some times the were attacking with the numbers superiority,i pointed out those moments in the live thread, that means that we were tactically owned then, scoring chances were just one step away and they finally come soon after that, unfortunately Palermo was lucky enough to be ultra efficient to every attacking chances they had, due to their quality,determination and our very own mistakes.
 

Maher

Juventuz addict
Dec 16, 2002
13,521
i am very sad , not because we lost but for the way we lost this game. after going 2-0 , i said it is normal , it seems the guys are not in form , but after drawing 2-2 , juve took control of the game and they were close to the winner when dp FK hit the post , i said ok a draw is better than a loss , then palermo winnner came at the end like a slap in the face , but this is football , if you dont take your chances , you will get punished.
 
Oct 2, 2005
714
Who Amauri??
You get it wrong, Amauri plays for a mid table team, they use him as a CF, but if he joins us, he wont the CF, he will join Treze in the offense and Treze will be our main target man. Amauri will be brought to do Dp's,Iaquinta;s and Palla's job.
NUT without the usual service and attention he has in Palermo, he wont have this assistance but he will have to face all the lack of creativity we suffer, plus the immense pressure in the team, he must immediately deliver or else, world champions like DP and Iaquinta will take his place. Amauri has never faced such a challenge, many players collapse when the do face such a challenge, esp at this age (28) IMO it is already too late for Amauri to try his lack in a very competitive team, if he was a couple of years younger, that would be ok.
Just look at Iaquinta and Luca Toni, these guys are fine examples, they played in the same league, they shines in their middle table teams and they switched to bigger ones too late, now its too late to make an impact.
And if you think that Amauri will help us resolve our creativity problems, think again.
Where was Amauri in the second half, when Palermo couldnt come forward, how many chances did he create?? How many times did he made the difference without the superiority of his team to back him up???
what are you talking about?

toni is top scorer in the bundesliga!

and to answer the part in bold - TWICE!
 

V

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Jun 8, 2005
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Bla bla bla.....bunch of BS as usual here....so let's start with a set of questions,answer as simple as you can....

Who scored? Amauri or Treze?
Who scored twice?
Whose team won?
Wow, you're line of thinking is really...idiotic.

Cronios gave you a constructive response and you responded like a 4th grade school-girl.
 
May 15, 2007
572
Amauri would get more chances with better players around him dude. Just think he had like 2 chances tonight and scored 2 goals. Look how many chances our strikers got today.. alot

Amauri can dribble, pass, shoot, head and has some creativity. Why wouldn't we want him in our team.

Juve will not sell Giovinco to Palermo.. that i am positive of. At mest they might loan him there next season to develop further if they don't think he is ready to be one of our main creative forces. I could see us using Palla, Nocerino, Volpato, De Ceglie or maby Marchisio .. but not Giovinco .. not for a permanent transfer.


As for Amauri he is better than Iaquinta and Palladino. Del Piero will probably only play one game a week because he picks up injuries and loses form when played too much do I would expect Amauri to partner Trez or Iaquinta in every other game we play. Or we could see a trident of Amauri- Trez- DP ..


But I have always thought Amauri was a great player. I questioned his form before this game but i was proved wrong. He is clearly back to his best and will be a great asset to our strike force next season. If we can sign him.

And what kind of example is Iaquinta and Toni? they both played once they matures (Toni very late) but both have proven themselves over time and are still doing good. Toni is playing well for Munich and broke records for Fiorentina while Iaquinta is doing great here considering he is not even a starter. I think it is foolish to say that Amauri is too old. He has been playing very well for the last 2 years and is at his peak now... perfect time to bring him in to compete for titles. He has experience, has refined his craft, has talent and still has his fitness.

Amauri wont single handedly help us resolve our creative problems but that is not expected of him. Goals are his main job. As we saw today he can create chances for himself and does have some creative flare but with DP being 34 next season we will need to use him very sparingly. Trez is on the wrong side of 30 as well so unless you want to play DP-Trez in the CL against say Man Utd .. then 3 days later player them again against Inter when they will be tired, over worked and risking injury or go with Palla - Iaquinta for one big game and DP-Trez or whatever for the next. We need to buy another good striker. Amauri is our guy.

He is hungry, talented, in shape, serie A experience and will be a very valuable player.

how many injuries has he got this season?
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,412
what are you talking about?

toni is top scorer in the bundesliga!

and to answer the part in bold - TWICE!
I mean that Amauri made that difference when his team, had the superiority!!
In the first half, Palermo wingers were raiding down our flanks, esp from Grygera's part and they were sliding through Noce and Sissoko, winning most of the duels and creating waves of attacks one after another, we were overthrown at every position on the field and not just the defense!
Our team was shaky as a whole and as Palermo coach pointed out, they gave us nothing.
That superiority was caused, due to our tactical choices, overall material balance, teamwork and determination, it had little to do with individual brilliance,at least from our side.
For them, Amauri was just the edge of the spear,
but in the second half, when the whole spear withdraw, Amauri disappeared, WASNT HE?????
I just want to point out, not that Amauri isnt effective and he cant deliver when his whole team provides support, i want to point out, that at the moments he hasnt that support, he cant do miracles all alone, no player can (well maybe the real Drogba can)

I m saying that, even if we had Amauri in our side, for the first half, our lack of creativity wouldnt improve much,
because we have other flaws elsewhere, that our opponents will take advantage of, before we get to use him!
Palermo entered the field, better prepared, than us, both tactically and mentally!
In the second half, we were able to strike back and make the proper adjustments,
(in players, tactics and mentality/focus/determination, kudos to CR) in a rate, that we totally dominated the game,despite the fact that they still had Amauri, in their ranks!!!!! Unfortunately Palermo was lucky enough to score again from Mars.
I wonder, when you watch a game, do you watch the whole team or just Amauri??
In the first half our defense was unsure, our midfield couldnt control the pace of the game and we couldnt create any decent chances for our forwards, at all!!
Was all of that just Amauri's fault???
Our problem was tactical and when we made the proper changes and fought back with determination, it really showed!!!
(if you were watching the game on bet365, you should notice, the spectacular change of odds, from Palermo's favor, to ours, by the minute!! they way the things were working on the field, we were supposed to win this game)
In the first half, our hero, Del Piero was trying as hard, as he tried in the second half, when he had the chance to score those rebounds, but he was hugely inefficient, the very same man!! Wonder why??? Wonder why the very same Amauri didnt create any chances in the second half?? Do you think all these were just random???

O well, you can always support the players, i will support the team, i ve said enough about this matter, no point to argue anymore, about this,
at least, until i see any proper argumentation from the opposition...
 

Salvo

J
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Dec 17, 2007
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bullshit game!

bullshit result!

bravo del piero and sissoko. they played very well and we were so unlucky while palermo had all the luck. del piero was superb shouldve had a hat trick.

and a rare credit to ranieri who had the balls to play the trident. its not his fault this game, it just was unlucky the ball didnt want to go in after those two del piero goals.
 

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