[Serie A] Palermo - Juventus (7 Viewers)

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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++ [ originally posted by Holdon ] ++
Oh yes you can! You can say that if he was playing well, he'd be in the team, because he isn't playing well, he's not and because he's not, we lost.
Yes and if Salas were better he would still be around and he would score a couple of goals to seal the win for us. So it's all his fault really.
 
Sep 14, 2003
5,800
++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++


Yes and if Salas were better he would still be around and he would score a couple of goals to seal the win for us. So it's all his fault really.
That fat b@stard! :D
 

A_LAcki

Senior Member
Dec 23, 2002
3,560
++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++
OUT MUSCLED, OUT-HUSTLED, OUT-PASSED, AND OUT- SHOT......

Dont fool yourselves, we ARE in a crisis...We haven't played well since we beat Roma......

TRAP has ruined this team. It has no direction, no leadership, and if you watched the game, you noticed that we just ran arond aimlessly, like chickens with their heads cut off....

My chump of the game award goes to Olivera...HE IS NOT JUVE MATERIAL...

A close second place is a tie between the dirtiest player in the game who cant dribble but thinks he can Zlatan, and the invisible man Trez

All you DP bashers, please tell me what Zlatan and Trez have done to keep their starting roles ??? If TRAP lives up to his word (no one is untouchable) then one of these jokers should be on the bench next game....

TRAP is such an idiot....sub out Tacchi for Blasi when your a goal down ??? DP should have gone in, not Blasi. typical TRAP move...,....

My next prediction is that Inter will end up ahead of us in second place, and we'll end up third.....
Vinman, I never liked your posts, but this time I say: AMEN!

I had the chance to see the game, and if we really played like this in all the last games, I can't see us staying in front of Inter. I am even a bit aashamed to be a Juvefan at the moment, because there is nothing to admire. No beautiful play to watch, no quick passes, no nice shots, its like watching a very weak English team: Long passes, and hope that either Zlatan or Trez gets one of this balls. Palermos goalie was not really tested in 90 minutes. Isn't that a shame? What can we Juve fans be proud of at the moment?

But let me comment on the game. The defense wasn't that bad at all, and showed that its the only good playing area of Juve. But we need another player for the right-back position. Zebina is very weak, if it comes to offence play. Zambrotta was the only really good playing guy in the second half, along with Emerson. Man, this guy was the only Juve midfielder, who tried something creative and fought for the ball. The rest was USELESS. Olivera is worthless. I thought he could be essential in the second half of the year, but he messed up EVERY SINGLE ACTION. Zlatan was so pissed, and you could see the anger in the players faces, after Olivera messed up another play. Tacchi is worthless and I won't comment Capellos decision to field Zalayeta in midfield: Its simply stupid and not worth talking about it.

In attack, we have one player, who is actually playing well: Zlatan. Trezeguet is not a striker, we need. He is as usefull for us, as Bonnefoi is. He is simply not really on the field, when playing. We need Mutu as quick as possible, or a Del Piero in top-form, but how can Ale gain form, when Mister "I won't sub anybody" Capello refuses to sub him. Man, How can he even sub Zalayeta before Del Piero. HOW? I was so sad, seeing DP on the bench. I bet he would have been better as Trezeguet. Man, this guy is a shame.

At the end, I have to say, that the only guy to blame is: Capello. I want my Juve to play like a world-class team, to play real football, that is creative, quick, nice to watch and successful. But Capello is even more defensivly minded than Trap. To be honest, Trap is even a better coach than Capello. He is the wrong guy, and Moggi should try to get Deschamps or any other better coach to Juve, before Capello ruins DP and Juve too. We need a new coach, New midfielders and Mutu back. Otherwise, this all could end up even worse than last season!
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
++ [ originally posted by A_LAcki ] ++


Vinman, I never liked your posts, but this time I say: AMEN!

I had the chance to see the game, and if we really played like this in all the last games, I can't see us staying in front of Inter. I am even a bit aashamed to be a Juvefan at the moment, because there is nothing to admire. No beautiful play to watch, no quick passes, no nice shots, its like watching a very weak English team: Long passes, and hope that either Zlatan or Trez gets one of this balls. Palermos goalie was not really tested in 90 minutes. Isn't that a shame? What can we Juve fans be proud of at the moment?

But let me comment on the game. The defense wasn't that bad at all, and showed that its the only good playing area of Juve. But we need another player for the right-back position. Zebina is very weak, if it comes to offence play. Zambrotta was the only really good playing guy in the second half, along with Emerson. Man, this guy was the only Juve midfielder, who tried something creative and fought for the ball. The rest was USELESS. Olivera is worthless. I thought he could be essential in the second half of the year, but he messed up EVERY SINGLE ACTION. Zlatan was so pissed, and you could see the anger in the players faces, after Olivera messed up another play. Tacchi is worthless and I won't comment Capellos decision to field Zalayeta in midfield: Its simply stupid and not worth talking about it.

In attack, we have one player, who is actually playing well: Zlatan. Trezeguet is not a striker, we need. He is as usefull for us, as Bonnefoi is. He is simply not really on the field, when playing. We need Mutu as quick as possible, or a Del Piero in top-form, but how can Ale gain form, when Mister "I won't sub anybody" Capello refuses to sub him. Man, How can he even sub Zalayeta before Del Piero. HOW? I was so sad, seeing DP on the bench. I bet he would have been better as Trezeguet. Man, this guy is a shame.

At the end, I have to say, that the only guy to blame is: Capello. I want my Juve to play like a world-class team, to play real football, that is creative, quick, nice to watch and successful. But Capello is even more defensivly minded than Trap. To be honest, Trap is even a better coach than Capello. He is the wrong guy, and Moggi should try to get Deschamps or any other better coach to Juve, before Capello ruins DP and Juve too. We need a new coach, New midfielders and Mutu back. Otherwise, this all could end up even worse than last season!
amen
 

Daddi

Cuadrado is juan hell of a derby king!
Oct 27, 2004
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I don't want to post what I thought of the game. All I can say is that this is what I predicted and I am really not happy right now.
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


I want Del Piero to leave. I want Del Piero to leave and prove Capello just how good a football player he is. That certainly is better than seeing a good player get destroyed by some "coach" who has so much lust for power that he neglects what's good for the team. I ****ing hate Capello.
this would make me very sad, but I belive that DP will show his worth with other temas more than at juve.. just see what montella is doing, he had no chance to play for roma..
 

ZhiXin

Senior Member
Oct 1, 2004
10,321
++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++
OUT MUSCLED, OUT-HUSTLED, OUT-PASSED, AND OUT- SHOT......

Dont fool yourselves, we ARE in a crisis...We haven't played well since we beat Roma......

TRAP has ruined this team. It has no direction, no leadership, and if you watched the game, you noticed that we just ran arond aimlessly, like chickens with their heads cut off....

My chump of the game award goes to Olivera...HE IS NOT JUVE MATERIAL...

A close second place is a tie between the dirtiest player in the game who cant dribble but thinks he can Zlatan, and the invisible man Trez

All you DP bashers, please tell me what Zlatan and Trez have done to keep their starting roles ??? If TRAP lives up to his word (no one is untouchable) then one of these jokers should be on the bench next game....

TRAP is such an idiot....sub out Tacchi for Blasi when your a goal down ??? DP should have gone in, not Blasi. typical TRAP move...,....

My next prediction is that Inter will end up ahead of us in second place, and we'll end up third.....
Pessimistic yet so true..........
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,257
++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++
My chump of the game award goes to Olivera...HE IS NOT JUVE MATERIAL...
I just watched the match again, and this statement is ridiculous. If Olivera is not Juve material then same goes for the whole Juventus midfield, including Zambrotta. The only bonehead plays Olivera made were the freekicks in which he totally fecked them all up. He is not a freekick taker, however nobody else on the team seems to be either. Just do not let Olivera take freekicks, and he is most definitely Juventus material.
 

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Yes Cap picked the team but 2 big men is not the anwser, Vinman made a great post regarding the bashing that has gone on in here, I'll grant that Zlatana can turn a game but he has the ability to build the play like my belove Ale, yes he is not the same but can contribute more then Trez but we don't need someone who just waits.............. I just pray and hope that Alex gets his chance to proove his many critics wrong. He may not be a world class anymore but he still is the prince of Turin.

Tutti con Alex
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
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TBH, I still think all of you are overreacting. True, we have been playing poorly, and I've said this even before, not just after the last two defeats, we are lacking creativity in midfield and seem to have problems scoring, but things arent as dramatic as everyone is making them out to be. Teams have their ups and their downs, happens to the best of them. Milan lost two games in a row as well. TBH, Sampdoria and palermo are tough opponents, and we cant expect to win every game. It seems that Nedveds injury is hitting us worse than we thought, but I'm confident that we'll turn our luck around when we get all the players to full fitness.

Relax people, I know you are all upset, but to be able to analyse things clearly and to see the whole picture you have to keep a cool head, panicking never helped anybody.
 

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