[Serie A] Milan - JUVENTUS (November 25, 2012) (14 Viewers)
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Shite performance, don't like seeing that sort of mentality and that complacency from the lads. I know we most likely do have one eye on the CL match against Shakhtar, but playing Milan at the San Siro requires you to get out of second gear at some point.
All that said, Milan are absolutely fucking terrible and really do play like a mid table team. Just pathetic, definitely won't be playing in the CL next season.
All that said, Milan are absolutely fucking terrible and really do play like a mid table team. Just pathetic, definitely won't be playing in the CL next season.
Absolutely crappy performance from all the guys,especially the forwards,lazy,depending too much on the mids who didnt play all that well either. Isla was crap,true, but most of the attacks still went from his side in the first half, rarely saw Asamoah on the first half, i still cant believe that Isla's crosses are worse than Molinaro's..
I really hope that this is gonna be our last lost,I really hope we go and win it all now, and Shakhtar will be the first..
Come on Juve!!
Damn I miss having Del Piero in the team!
I really hope that this is gonna be our last lost,I really hope we go and win it all now, and Shakhtar will be the first..
Come on Juve!!
Damn I miss having Del Piero in the team!
we didn't play that crap IMHO, it just bilan got their revenge of gol di muntari, the penalty was 100% unfair lol, the ball actually bounced off nocerino's arm so now way in hell anyone could've avoided it and objectively it was 100% not intentional mistake... rofl if isla punished then why the fuck nocerino didn't lol what a joke...
the managerial mistake was not switching to 4-3-3 in the 2nd half with mirko - quaq - gio upfront, wewouldn't had lost since I'm pretty sure those 3 would've tore milan's defense apart.
and bilan surely played like some midtable to bottom team lol, we can all be sure they will drop more points so actually their winning this time can mean nothing lol
the managerial mistake was not switching to 4-3-3 in the 2nd half with mirko - quaq - gio upfront, wewouldn't had lost since I'm pretty sure those 3 would've tore milan's defense apart.
and bilan surely played like some midtable to bottom team lol, we can all be sure they will drop more points so actually their winning this time can mean nothing lol
we didn't play that crap IMHO, it just bilan got their revenge of gol di muntari, the penalty was 100% unfair lol, the ball actually bounced off nocerino's arm so now way in hell anyone could've avoided it and objectively it was 100% not intentional mistake... rofl if isla punished then why the fuck nocerino didn't lol what a joke...
the managerial mistake was not switching to 4-3-3 in the 2nd half with mirko - quaq - gio upfront, wewouldn't had lost since I'm pretty sure those 3 would've tore milan's defense apart. and bilan surely played like some midtable to bottom team lol, we can all be sure they will drop more points so actually their winning this time can mean nothing lol
the managerial mistake was not switching to 4-3-3 in the 2nd half with mirko - quaq - gio upfront, wewouldn't had lost since I'm pretty sure those 3 would've tore milan's defense apart.
and bilan surely played like some midtable to bottom team lol, we can all be sure they will drop more points so actually their winning this time can mean nothing lol
I really didn't care about the result in the end, even if we had lost 3-0. What hurts is the approach to this game from our players and coaches. That wasn't Juventus last night, that was just some average team.
Let's just hope this will be another wake up call, because if we play like this against Shaktar, we will get slaughtered. At this point, Shaktar match scares the shit out of me.
Let's just hope this will be another wake up call, because if we play like this against Shaktar, we will get slaughtered. At this point, Shaktar match scares the shit out of me.
For me the problem is that we think we're good, and in more than one match this season we've put less in than we would have done last year. We got away with that up until now, but a particularly bad technical performance and the ref saw us off in this one.
Once we start thinking we are good we'll stop actually being that, great teams don't show that by just turning up. We put a lot into games to get where we are under Conte, and I didn't expect this to be a fixture where we take over an hour to bother trying to get anywhere near that level.
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I thought Milan just played the game how a mid-table team facing Juve would, I really don't know how else to put it to make it sound less harsh. They got 8 players behind the ball when Juve attacked, and countered. The only difference being a shift in quality with the counter attacking, given Milan's better front three than those teams. It was a tactic which lowered Milan's standard, to get a result in this game. We've seen this tactic from every from Fiorentina to Genoa to Cagliari to Chievo.
Juve being completely useless in the final third, with the Vucinic-Quagliarella partnership that doesn't work playing directly into Milan's hands. The penalty just decided a win, or else you have a mediocre team against a mediocre performance and a 0-0.
It'll be a confidence boost, but I'll be fucked if I see Milan playing like that against other sides in the league. It was a one off show that will mean nothing in the context of the season.
I was going to compare it to how our 7th placed teams played at home to Inter and Milan, but we were much better in those than anything Milan had to show, we took the game to those teams.
Once we start thinking we are good we'll stop actually being that, great teams don't show that by just turning up. We put a lot into games to get where we are under Conte, and I didn't expect this to be a fixture where we take over an hour to bother trying to get anywhere near that level.
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I thought Milan just played the game how a mid-table team facing Juve would, I really don't know how else to put it to make it sound less harsh. They got 8 players behind the ball when Juve attacked, and countered. The only difference being a shift in quality with the counter attacking, given Milan's better front three than those teams. It was a tactic which lowered Milan's standard, to get a result in this game. We've seen this tactic from every from Fiorentina to Genoa to Cagliari to Chievo.
Juve being completely useless in the final third, with the Vucinic-Quagliarella partnership that doesn't work playing directly into Milan's hands. The penalty just decided a win, or else you have a mediocre team against a mediocre performance and a 0-0.
It'll be a confidence boost, but I'll be fucked if I see Milan playing like that against other sides in the league. It was a one off show that will mean nothing in the context of the season.
I was going to compare it to how our 7th placed teams played at home to Inter and Milan, but we were much better in those than anything Milan had to show, we took the game to those teams.
That what bothers me the most too. There were a lot of matches were we hought we could wind playing without full effort, only to see that we need to turn up in the second half and spend even more energy.
I don't get this tactic, and I don't think it comes down to mentality of the team, but rather coaches orders. I would like to see that we bring it on from the start, and if we have a lead and control we then bring the tempo down and rest, not the other way round.
I don't get this tactic, and I don't think it comes down to mentality of the team, but rather coaches orders. I would like to see that we bring it on from the start, and if we have a lead and control we then bring the tempo down and rest, not the other way round.
Yeah true, there has been a strong whiff of arrogance about this team for most of the season.
Now, having a bit of swagger when you play and knowing you're the best is fine, but you do need to fucking back it up by performing on the field of play. Last night was just disgraceful we got so many of the simple things wrong, just a really flat performance. You sort of expect it after a big CL game but the players do need to lift especially in the big "derby" games.
Now, having a bit of swagger when you play and knowing you're the best is fine, but you do need to fucking back it up by performing on the field of play. Last night was just disgraceful we got so many of the simple things wrong, just a really flat performance. You sort of expect it after a big CL game but the players do need to lift especially in the big "derby" games.
In the Milan and Chelsea games how many times did we pass the ball directly from our defense or midfield straight to an opposition player to give a dangerous counter attack? It must be 10 times between the two games, I'd love to know the stat.
I know we beat Chelsea 3-0, and we played well overall, but I thought our performance level was actually better against Lazio where it finished 0-0. Call me crazy.
I see laziness creeping into our game. Lazio were saved by Marchetti. Chelsea couldn't defend if their lives depended on it. Milan defended in numbers. I see certain areas gradually declining when we play a run of tough games consecutively. We have a week now and will most probably come out blazing against Torino, but I wonder what we'll be like in Donetsk, because I think we'll need to be 100% to get our point.
I know we beat Chelsea 3-0, and we played well overall, but I thought our performance level was actually better against Lazio where it finished 0-0. Call me crazy.
I see laziness creeping into our game. Lazio were saved by Marchetti. Chelsea couldn't defend if their lives depended on it. Milan defended in numbers. I see certain areas gradually declining when we play a run of tough games consecutively. We have a week now and will most probably come out blazing against Torino, but I wonder what we'll be like in Donetsk, because I think we'll need to be 100% to get our point.
Yeah you are definitely right. We do need to be at our 100% to get that point. Playing against Donestk in Ukraine in December is daunting for most teams in the world. That game in Donetsk scares the shit out of me TBH.
They are going to attack us like crazy for two reasons
1) They want top spot.
2) They can afford to attack us like crazy and even lose, because they qualify anyway - so might as well come out with all guns blazing.
I hate that we are extremely lame at counter attacking, and we are susceptible to counter attacks because of our high line and high pressure tactics. Arse biscuits.
They are going to attack us like crazy for two reasons
1) They want top spot.
2) They can afford to attack us like crazy and even lose, because they qualify anyway - so might as well come out with all guns blazing.
I hate that we are extremely lame at counter attacking, and we are susceptible to counter attacks because of our high line and high pressure tactics. Arse biscuits.
