[Serie A] Milan - JUVENTUS (November 25, 2012) (10 Viewers)
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Eventhough the negativity surrounds me, I still see 2 positive things from this match:
• Allegri just bought himself more time. I have never rated him highly and Milan keeping him might just hinder their revolution.
• We just played our worst game in 1½ year. That shit is seriously hard to replicate.
• Allegri just bought himself more time. I have never rated him highly and Milan keeping him might just hinder their revolution.
• We just played our worst game in 1½ year. That shit is seriously hard to replicate.
I wasn't even this disgusted against Inter. Against such mediocre opposition I've just witnessed the most gutless Juve performance under Conte, absolutely shameful and I don't think any of them managed to redeem themselves in the second half. I don't know if they thought the game was in the bag, or that they were God's gift to football, but I find it pretty inexcusable for those players to perform like that just days after one of their best performances. I really hope they didn't share the same attitude as 90% of this forum though, because we've been in a similar position to Milan and won big derby games against them and Inter very recently. These types of games heavily rely on mentality.
Everything was so languid wasn't it? Half the effort required from everyone. And it's very easy to draw a comparison up to a previous game as well, with the effective and intensive display against Chelsea. As soon as Juve got possession in mid week, you had 3 or 4 different players moving rapidly off the ball, and there was a lot more intensity in pressuring and playing the game. Players fought to get to the ball, and possession moved around cleanly. A lot of jogging and ambling tonight, which is disastrous against a counter attacking side. I dislike the attitude of some of our players as well, rolling around on the floor feigning injury. Bonucci clutching his face in the first half while Milan ran at his other two centre backs (part of Serie A that I really dislike). A lot of attitude problems actually, just looked like nobody was urgent to get the game moving until the final 5 minutes as if they suddenly realised that it was desperate to gain a goal. For example, a free kick was given against Bonucci in the final 10 minutes near the touchline, and instead of getting on with the game he held the ball in his arms and complained at the ref, effectively stopping play and wasting time. He did the same against Bologna in the last 2 minutes (that time arguing over a throw in) and I was prepared to have a go at him for that but eventually a win came from nowhere so couldn't be bothered. I remember the same attitude in a game last season, against Udinese away from home (game finished 0-0). Pepe was being substituted in the second half, so he went over to the far side of the pitch and was basically walking off when his number was called. I have no idea why he did that. I'm rambling now though.
The time wasting was recurrent, loads of silly fouls when there shouldn't be, loads of complaining to the referee to keep the ball out of play. It's frustrating as a fan to see the players "buy time" for Milan like that, allowing them to do every single time wasting trick in existence. The only thing missing was desperate 30 metre shots.
A combination of Juventus failing to pass properly and Milan pushing players into surrendering possession led to that first half anyway. Pirlo was left for dead on several occasions on the break because Milan actually got on with the game, creating many 3v3 situations. First half sealed it as Milan needed a goal to sit back and absorb pressure to counter more conservatively. I thought De Jong was pretty good, but Milan weren't really performing that ruthlessly, it was mainly Juve undoing themselves.
I'm going to need a decent screenshot or photo of that penalty incident. Replays on screen showed it to be very close between hitting an arm or back, then I can get into discussing whether players should have their arms raised in the box or not.
Everything was so languid wasn't it? Half the effort required from everyone. And it's very easy to draw a comparison up to a previous game as well, with the effective and intensive display against Chelsea. As soon as Juve got possession in mid week, you had 3 or 4 different players moving rapidly off the ball, and there was a lot more intensity in pressuring and playing the game. Players fought to get to the ball, and possession moved around cleanly. A lot of jogging and ambling tonight, which is disastrous against a counter attacking side. I dislike the attitude of some of our players as well, rolling around on the floor feigning injury. Bonucci clutching his face in the first half while Milan ran at his other two centre backs (part of Serie A that I really dislike). A lot of attitude problems actually, just looked like nobody was urgent to get the game moving until the final 5 minutes as if they suddenly realised that it was desperate to gain a goal. For example, a free kick was given against Bonucci in the final 10 minutes near the touchline, and instead of getting on with the game he held the ball in his arms and complained at the ref, effectively stopping play and wasting time. He did the same against Bologna in the last 2 minutes (that time arguing over a throw in) and I was prepared to have a go at him for that but eventually a win came from nowhere so couldn't be bothered. I remember the same attitude in a game last season, against Udinese away from home (game finished 0-0). Pepe was being substituted in the second half, so he went over to the far side of the pitch and was basically walking off when his number was called. I have no idea why he did that. I'm rambling now though.
The time wasting was recurrent, loads of silly fouls when there shouldn't be, loads of complaining to the referee to keep the ball out of play. It's frustrating as a fan to see the players "buy time" for Milan like that, allowing them to do every single time wasting trick in existence. The only thing missing was desperate 30 metre shots.
A combination of Juventus failing to pass properly and Milan pushing players into surrendering possession led to that first half anyway. Pirlo was left for dead on several occasions on the break because Milan actually got on with the game, creating many 3v3 situations. First half sealed it as Milan needed a goal to sit back and absorb pressure to counter more conservatively. I thought De Jong was pretty good, but Milan weren't really performing that ruthlessly, it was mainly Juve undoing themselves.
I'm going to need a decent screenshot or photo of that penalty incident. Replays on screen showed it to be very close between hitting an arm or back, then I can get into discussing whether players should have their arms raised in the box or not.
a team in Milan's situation need an injection of confidence like today's game - not so much the result thanks to a non-existent PK but the overall performance of the team. Milan may not have the quality of year's past but the team is good enough to finish in top 4-5 of serie A depending on how consistent some other teams are ... instead, they are midtable i.e. severely under-performing. This is a young team still coming together and tonight's performance, coming after CL qualification, feels like things are finally coming together, hence the gloating 
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hope you guys don't take seriously my trash-talking, you know I love you
gotta say I am pleasantly surprised I got only 1 -rep for all that crap earlier
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hope you guys don't take seriously my trash-talking, you know I love you
gotta say I am pleasantly surprised I got only 1 -rep for all that crap earlier
a team in Milan's situation need an injection of confidence like today's game - not so much the result thanks to a non-existent PK but the overall performance of the team. Milan may not have the quality of year's past but the team is good enough to finish in top 4-5 of serie A depending on how consistent some other teams are ... instead, they are midtable i.e. severely under-performing. This is a young team still coming together and tonight's performance, coming after CL qualification, feels like things are finally coming together, hence the gloating .
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hope you guys don't take seriously my trash-talking, you know I love you
gotta say I am pleasantly surprised I got only 1 -rep for all that crap earlier
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hope you guys don't take seriously my trash-talking, you know I love you
gotta say I am pleasantly surprised I got only 1 -rep for all that crap earlier
- it wasn't you I was talking about.
