Recall an Interview with Chiellini in the past, kinda showed what a contrast he is, journo described him as double natured. Brutish and vicious neanderthal on the pitch, but calm and collected intellectual off it.
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No that's called being childish and immature imo. You gotta be fair not biased in your opinions. If a player/coach of ours makes an obvious mistake, you acknowledge that and criticize him while he's with us. Defending someone blindly, while deep down you know he's doing wrong is just hypocrisy, toward yourself and specially others.
So by analogy zach knows some of the decisions made by allegri, marotta etc. right know are plain wrong but he's lying to himself and us defending them, just to flip flop when they leave and laugh at them and whatever they do. I can't take anything someone like that says, seriously.
No you are specifically making fun of Conte's after mach comments, were as back when he was our coach it was obvious (and I distinctly remember multiple times) that you read and referenced those exact same post match comments made by Conte. Trying to explain them to us and drill them into our skulls like you and only you understand what they mean and they were like holy scripture to you.
That's what we don't like about you, changing your stand based on where the wind blows.
So by analogy zach knows some of the decisions made by allegri, marotta etc. right know are plain wrong but he's lying to himself and us defending them, just to flip flop when they leave and laugh at them and whatever they do. I can't take anything someone like that says, seriously.
No you are specifically making fun of Conte's after mach comments, were as back when he was our coach it was obvious (and I distinctly remember multiple times) that you read and referenced those exact same post match comments made by Conte. Trying to explain them to us and drill them into our skulls like you and only you understand what they mean and they were like holy scripture to you.
That's what we don't like about you, changing your stand based on where the wind blows.
Lol you don't know when to quit.
The reporter followed Chiellini in his daily life, interviewed his family, friends, old childhood coaches etc to explain how unusual it is he is fiery warrior on the pitch and a shy smart fella off it as contrast etc.
Conte in comparison seems fairly typical example, how he was on the pitch and off it as a character is the same basically.
The reporter followed Chiellini in his daily life, interviewed his family, friends, old childhood coaches etc to explain how unusual it is he is fiery warrior on the pitch and a shy smart fella off it as contrast etc.
Conte in comparison seems fairly typical example, how he was on the pitch and off it as a character is the same basically.
I allready know, next time azzurri get a good win, and i praise conte for showing again his talent as a tactician wich i've allways done, people like Osman and Donpiero will be on my ass saying i changed opinion again.
its pathetic really.
Why the fuck should i, as a juventus fan care about how to interprete his comments ? He's supposed to be a professional. If he gives an interview, he's supposed to eighter give a professional answer, or know he will be going against juventus fans.
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Thats bullshit. Any normal player or coach over 24 knows how to give these interviews. Unless they are angry about how the game went, they'll be professional and know the weight of their answers. Especially coaches.
if Conte says such things unrelated to emotions of the game just ago, its because he means it, or doesnt give a fuck.
its pathetic really.
Why the fuck should i, as a juventus fan care about how to interprete his comments ? He's supposed to be a professional. If he gives an interview, he's supposed to eighter give a professional answer, or know he will be going against juventus fans.
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Thats bullshit. Any normal player or coach over 24 knows how to give these interviews. Unless they are angry about how the game went, they'll be professional and know the weight of their answers. Especially coaches.
if Conte says such things unrelated to emotions of the game just ago, its because he means it, or doesnt give a fuck.
Dominant performance in our first big test of the season. I'll take it.
Buffon 6.5 (Good save on the Honda header)
Caceres NR (Sucks that he got injured when he's been in such good form)
Bonucci 6.5 (Error free game from him)
Chiellini 5 (Two bad mistakes could have cost us)
Lichtsteiner 6.5 (Always a great outlet but needs to improve his end product)
Pereyra 7 (Impressive display. Looks like a very useful signing)
Marchisio 7 (Assured performance)
Pogba 7.5 (Beastly in the second half. Brilliant assist)
Asamoah 6 (Solid but not much of a threat)
Tevez 7 (Match winner)
Llorente 5.5 (He still contributes to the team when he's not scoring but it's time to give Morata a chance)
Buffon 6.5 (Good save on the Honda header)
Caceres NR (Sucks that he got injured when he's been in such good form)
Bonucci 6.5 (Error free game from him)
Chiellini 5 (Two bad mistakes could have cost us)
Lichtsteiner 6.5 (Always a great outlet but needs to improve his end product)
Pereyra 7 (Impressive display. Looks like a very useful signing)
Marchisio 7 (Assured performance)
Pogba 7.5 (Beastly in the second half. Brilliant assist)
Asamoah 6 (Solid but not much of a threat)
Tevez 7 (Match winner)
Llorente 5.5 (He still contributes to the team when he's not scoring but it's time to give Morata a chance)
Good game but we really have to fix our final 3rd play. I like the fact Allegri is fixing our inability to cope with other teams pressing 
It could be time for 4321? Tevez - Llorente/Morata - Pereyra with support from one of Pogba/Vidal? IMO we shouldn't be going with the 352 against Atletico, let's not repeat mistakes from the past. We're not fast and efficient enough upfront with it (even though it works in Serie A perfectly well).
It could be time for 4321? Tevez - Llorente/Morata - Pereyra with support from one of Pogba/Vidal? IMO we shouldn't be going with the 352 against Atletico, let's not repeat mistakes from the past. We're not fast and efficient enough upfront with it (even though it works in Serie A perfectly well).
Strong, controlled performance from Juve.
Was never going to be an open, exciting game - unless one (or both) of the teams or coaches got things badly wrong.
Milan had no interest in doing anything but waiting for counter-attacking chances; Juve weren't going to take risks to force things.
The key thing for Juve was to stay patient and not fall into the trap of committing too many men forward or playing risky sideways passes that could have left them vulnerable with several men wrong side of the ball.
Juve got the balance right and there was enough quality in the final third - mostly through Llorente and Pereyra in the first half and Pogba in the second half - that Juve were going to create enough half-chances that you would expect them to take one of them and win the game. As it happened, Pogba did something brilliant and created a clear chance so Juve didn't have to rely on taking a difficult chance.
In being cautious in the first half, Juve came pretty close to playing an orthodox back four. Asamoah wasn't pushing high up and that allowed the three centre-halves to shuffle a little across to the right and leave Lichtsteiner with virtually no defensive responsibilities. I liked the move because it reduced the risk of getting caught three versus three, as can happen with 4-3-3 against 3-5-2. With Lichtsteiner playing as a winger, Pereyra was then free to play very centrally and it was him bursting through the middle of the pitch that produced Juve's best chances in the first half.
In the second half Juve - having established that they were pushing Milan so far back that they couldn't threaten on the break - returned to playing in a more orthodox 3-5-2 (or 3-5-1-1, given the role Tevez now seems to be playing) shape and continued to boss the game and look capable of scoring without taking any risks.
Thought it was interesting that, in contrast to Juve's last couple of games, Juve barely attempted a cross from open play in the entire game. It could be because Allegri thinks Milan aren't vulnerable to that, but I'd be susrprised if that is the case given that everyone is vulnerable to conceding from crosses when playing against Llorente. More likely that it was an anti- counter-attack measure (like Conte with his short corners) as you do tend to need to commit a few players to the box to be likely to score from a cross (especially if you don't have great crossers.
Instead Llorente was very much the focal point of Juve's attack for most of the game. The whole plan was playing pretty much through the middle, with Llorente occupying Milan defenders and laying balls off for the likes of Tevez and Pereyra moving forward from deeper positions. It's quite a safe way of attacking because you can be very dangerous with only two or three players risking being caught ahead of the ball should things go wrong.
Anyway, good team performance with good game-specific plans from Allegri.
Was never going to be an open, exciting game - unless one (or both) of the teams or coaches got things badly wrong.
Milan had no interest in doing anything but waiting for counter-attacking chances; Juve weren't going to take risks to force things.
The key thing for Juve was to stay patient and not fall into the trap of committing too many men forward or playing risky sideways passes that could have left them vulnerable with several men wrong side of the ball.
Juve got the balance right and there was enough quality in the final third - mostly through Llorente and Pereyra in the first half and Pogba in the second half - that Juve were going to create enough half-chances that you would expect them to take one of them and win the game. As it happened, Pogba did something brilliant and created a clear chance so Juve didn't have to rely on taking a difficult chance.
In being cautious in the first half, Juve came pretty close to playing an orthodox back four. Asamoah wasn't pushing high up and that allowed the three centre-halves to shuffle a little across to the right and leave Lichtsteiner with virtually no defensive responsibilities. I liked the move because it reduced the risk of getting caught three versus three, as can happen with 4-3-3 against 3-5-2. With Lichtsteiner playing as a winger, Pereyra was then free to play very centrally and it was him bursting through the middle of the pitch that produced Juve's best chances in the first half.
In the second half Juve - having established that they were pushing Milan so far back that they couldn't threaten on the break - returned to playing in a more orthodox 3-5-2 (or 3-5-1-1, given the role Tevez now seems to be playing) shape and continued to boss the game and look capable of scoring without taking any risks.
Thought it was interesting that, in contrast to Juve's last couple of games, Juve barely attempted a cross from open play in the entire game. It could be because Allegri thinks Milan aren't vulnerable to that, but I'd be susrprised if that is the case given that everyone is vulnerable to conceding from crosses when playing against Llorente. More likely that it was an anti- counter-attack measure (like Conte with his short corners) as you do tend to need to commit a few players to the box to be likely to score from a cross (especially if you don't have great crossers.
Instead Llorente was very much the focal point of Juve's attack for most of the game. The whole plan was playing pretty much through the middle, with Llorente occupying Milan defenders and laying balls off for the likes of Tevez and Pereyra moving forward from deeper positions. It's quite a safe way of attacking because you can be very dangerous with only two or three players risking being caught ahead of the ball should things go wrong.
Anyway, good team performance with good game-specific plans from Allegri.