[Serie A] Lecce - Juventus (4 Viewers)

Aug 26, 2003
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yeah i can't understand why you some of just critize all the time, we have won and that is the most important thing for today!

Zlatan is sometimes selfish, I have to admit that but, IMO he is very important in our attack, we would not be first in Serie A and in Cl if he wasn't here, i am sure of that! His skills are worldclass and when you look at our style of game than i understand that Zlatan tries to dribble! Most of the time he is alone up front and when you look how many high balls which other players would lost, i can't understand the critism! + he is dangerous in any minute in the game!

Also i don't understand why there is yet a discussion over Del Piero, he will never be the old, and everybody knows that, but he is doing his best, is our captain and has now scored regular (winning) goals this season and he is very important for Juve!

forza Juve!
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
++ [ originally posted by Art^ ] ++


It doesnt make him overrated just because you think he is. 9/10 people who watches football can clearly see he has skills. I wouldnt say anything if every 2. person said he was overrated, but going against the majority is not going to help us see your point.
I'm sorry.... I guess my opinion doesnt count

Since YOU think he's great, and seeing that you have done a survey to find out this information, surely I must be mistaken..........................



What happened to people having differing opinions ???:confused:
 

arc

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2004
4,078
++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++


I'm sorry.... I guess my opinion doesnt count

Since YOU think he's great, and seeing that you have done a survey to find out this information, surely I must be mistaken..........................



What happened to people having differing opinions ???:confused:

hey, actually im on ya side, i think he might be a bit overated, well, a very good assist to dp today but he also missed 2 open goal .. he is great individual as he has skills but isnt really into our team
 

xziz

Senior Member
Aug 30, 2004
508
from: http://www.datasport.it/leggi.asp?id=2502441

Calcio: Serie A: Lecce
Lecce: Zeman “E’ De Santis il ‘santino’ della Juventus” 14/11/2004 23:35.51

“Mi dispiace che lo abbiano mandato ad arbitrare una partita che aspettava tutta l’Italia”

Zdenek Zeman Zdenek Zeman, allenatore del Lecce, interviene alla Domenica Sportiva e, come sempre, non lesina battute al vetriolo contro la Juventus. Riferendosi alla gara disputata sotto la pioggia sottolinea: ”Partite così le vince chi ha un po` di fortuna, o chi porta più santini in campo”, aggiungendo di non avere visto l’arbitro De Santis fare la prova del pallone facendolo rimbalzare sul campo di gioco.
Zeman ne ha anche per Del Piero: ”Bravo a fare gol, ma grazie anche alla pozzanghera che ha bloccato il
pallone che gli ha consentito di fare quel gol. Non mi sembra che sia stato felice più di altre volte. Fra me e lui non c’è nulla di personale. Dice di non avere mai cambiato taglia di abiti? Vedo che Del Piero ha la memoria corta, da tempo non si ricorda più niente...".

Quindi una stoccata alla direzione di gara: ”Quando ho parlato di ‘santini’ mi riferivo all’arbitro De Santis. Mi dispiace che porti così fortuna alla Juventus. Mi dispiace che lo abbiano mandato ad arbitrare una partita che aspettava tutta l’Italia, mi dispiace che siamo stati fermati nelle due azioni che abbiamo costruito con Bojinov e Dalla Bona. In più due azioni pericolose di Ibrahimovic erano in posizione di fuori gioco. Infine non abbiamo potuto battere una punizione nel finale del primo tempo, e non per colpa nostra, ma perché non si è potuto giocare per due minuti”.
Infine nuovamente una battuta sul campo: ”Ho fatto anche l’allenatore di pallanuoto e so che è uno sport fisico. Visto il campo in quelle condizioni ho messo in campo una squadra fisica…”.
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++
I really cant comment too much, our guys were playing in a lake !!!

If I had a nickel for everytime the announcer said "water-logged pitch".....

The only thing that really bothers me right now is Zlatan. He is overrated, and everytime he gets the ball, he tries to dribble thru everyone on the pitch, and gets the ball taken away (except once, he decided to pass to DP, and he scored....but that doesnt make up for the other times)

Calcio Italia magazine crowns him the next Van Basten


Van Basten ??????:confused:

I am crowning Zlatan the next Marcelo Salas

Zlatan is great.. he has been the best juve striker on his debut.. 5 goals and 6 asissts so far.. and still to come..
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
++ [ originally posted by simpson-juvefan ] ++
yeah i can't understand why you some of just critize all the time, we have won and that is the most important thing for today!

Zlatan is sometimes selfish, I have to admit that but, IMO he is very important in our attack, we would not be first in Serie A and in Cl if he wasn't here, i am sure of that! His skills are worldclass and when you look at our style of game than i understand that Zlatan tries to dribble! Most of the time he is alone up front and when you look how many high balls which other players would lost, i can't understand the critism! + he is dangerous in any minute in the game!

Also i don't understand why there is yet a discussion over Del Piero, he will never be the old, and everybody knows that, but he is doing his best, is our captain and has now scored regular (winning) goals this season and he is very important for Juve!

forza Juve!
well said....
 

xziz

Senior Member
Aug 30, 2004
508
Kataweb is a declared Romanist media. There appear to be a shift in tendency here, away from generic Juve bashing.

xziz :cheesy:

from: http://www.kataweb.it/sport/sportdetail.jsp?extra=true&idCategory=5687&idContent=718578&serie=

Brava la Juve operaia
A Lecce 3 punti pesanti

S'è giocato su un campo quasi impossibile per la pioggia. I bianconeri hanno giocato un calcio umile, battagliero e semplice, quello che serviva per battere un Lecce grintosissimo e mai domo. Decide un gol di Del Piero (foto Sky Sport) dopo una magia di Ibrahimovic
di Paolo Prestisimone
LECCE-JUVENTUS: LA DIRETTA

LECCE - Sapete come si vincono i campionati? Sapendo stare nei panni sia del re che in quelli dell'operaio, quando serve. La Juve di Lecce ha dato una grande lezione a tutti, una lezione di umiltà e di grandezza insieme. perchè così si è veri campioni.

Lo ha fatto contro una squadra che non si è mai rassegnata, ha corso, ha lottato, ha cercato sempre il pareggio. Come ogni squadra di Zeman. Il protagonista è stato un terreno di gioco, davvero infame. Un campo sul quale non ci poteva giocare. Il pallone, quando era calciato rasoterra, era frenato dall'acqua che ristagnava sotto l'erba; le scarpe dei calciatori affondavano nel fango; tutti costretti a miracoli di equilibrismo.

Si è giocato invece e ha vinto la Juve, di misura, confermando il suo ruolo di regina del campionato facendo sua la battaglia sul fango. Non è riuscita a mettere al sicuro il risultato, soffrendo e rischiando sino alla fine ma ha saputo controllare la situazione e questa sera è più che mai padrona del campionato.

Zeman, vista la situazione del terreno di gioco, ha apportato un'altra rivoluzione alla sua squadra, inserendo in difesa le 'taglie forti', quei giocatori cioè che sul terreno pesante gli davano garanzie di maggiore stabilità. Dentro, perciò, Silvestri e Abruzzese come esterni difensivi con lo spostamento di Cassetti in avanti quale esterno d'attacco col compito naturalmente di raccordarsi con Giacomazzi.

Un Lecce poco zemaniano quindi, che ha rinunziato alle sue tradizionali impostazioni offensive, proponendo una squadra più abbottonata e più prudente, anche perchè sarebbe stato inutile tentare azioni volanti su quel campo impossibile.

La Juve si è adattata alla situazione, come è solita fare con i trasformismi cui l'ha abituata Capello: concreta, cinica e opportunista si è affidata ai giocatori più esperti, che hanno fatto la differenza.

Su tutti Ibrahimovic, che peraltro è l'autore morale del gol d'apertura, avendo offerto a Del Piero una palla d'oro dopo aver superato due avversari. Poi Del Piero, che ha fatto viaggiare la palla con tocchi volanti, preziosissimi su quel campo. Nella zona centro campo-attacco Pessotto ed Emerson sono stati continui ed efficaci in azione di contenimento e rilancio.

Il gol con cui la Juve è andata al riposo dopo soli 14' l'ha i pratica segnato Ibrahimovic, che ha imperversato sulla destra e poi ha servito al centro. Una pozzanghera ha reso più facile l'intervento di Del Piero, perchè la palla non ha rimbalzato e il capitano juventino ha messo il pallone all'incrocio dei pali.

Ottenuto il vantaggio, la Juve si è fatta guardinga tanto che nel primo tempo il maggior numero di interventi lo ha fatto Buffon. Comunque le condizioni del terreno hanno ingannato al 20' Bjelanovic quando da ottima posizione ha consentito il recupero dei bianconeri e al 37' Ibrahimovic quando su corta respinta di Sicignano su tiro di Pessotto, bene appostato, ha calciato fuori.

Nella ripresa,la partita si è fatta più combattuta: per una decina di minuti il Lecce ha premuto nella metà campo ospite, poi la Juve ha tentato di chiudere la partita. Al 22' Sicignano è uscito sui piedi di Ibrahimovic, lanciato da Kapo. Al 37 Bojinov è stato lanciato da Cassetti, ma ha concluso sull'esterno della rete.

Non son mancati i brividi nel finale: prima Kapo, dopo aver superato Sicignano, ha cincischiato consentendo il recupero della difesa leccese poi Buffon è stato bravo ad alzare sulla traversa un gran tiro di Vucinic.

Insomma una partita di quasi pallanuoto, evidentemenrte la Juve sa fare molti sport...

LECCE-JUVENTUS 0-1 (0-1)
LECCE (4-3-3) - Sicignano 6, Silvestri 5.5 (41' st Vucinic sv), Diamoutene 6, Stovini 7, Abruzzese 5 (41' st Eremenko sv), Giacomazzi 5, Ledesma 6, Dalla Bona 5.5, Cassetti 7, Bjelanovic 5.5, Bojinov 6. (27 Anania, 3 Rullo, 26 Paci, 31 Pinardi, , 13 Babù) All.Zeman 7
JUVENTUS (4-4-2): Buffon 7, Pessotto 7 (39' st Tudor sv), Thuram 6.5, Cannavaro 7, Zambrotta 7, Camoranesi 7, Emerson 6, Appiah 6, Oliveira 6 (32' st Blasi sv), Ibrahimovic 7, Del Piero 6.5 (14' st Kapo 6). (12 Chimenti, 4 Montero, 3 Tacchinardi, 25 Zalayeta). All.Capello 6.5
Arbitro: De Santis di Roma 6.
Reti: nel pt 14' Del Piero
Note: recupero: 1' e 3'. Angoli: 8 a 1 per il Lecce. Terreno al limite della praticabilità. Ammoniti: Diamoutene, Ledesma, Pessotto, Thuram per gioco falloso e Tudor e Sicignano. Spettatori: paganti 23.309 per un incasso di euro 691.470 oltre alla quota di 7173 abbonati per euro 83.140 (14 nov 2004)
 
Jan 7, 2004
29,703
++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++
I really cant comment too much, our guys were playing in a lake !!!

If I had a nickel for everytime the announcer said "water-logged pitch".....

The only thing that really bothers me right now is Zlatan. He is overrated, and everytime he gets the ball, he tries to dribble thru everyone on the pitch, and gets the ball taken away (except once, he decided to pass to DP, and he scored....but that doesnt make up for the other times)

Calcio Italia magazine crowns him the next Van Basten


Van Basten ??????:confused:

I am crowning Zlatan the next Marcelo Salas

did you see it on TLN ?

if so then "lecce players are trying to play football " :groan:
 

xziz

Senior Member
Aug 30, 2004
508
from: http://www.juventus.com/uk/news/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1366000&ID=3333

Del Piero match winner


Juventus takes home three precious points in the difficult away match in Lecce, even more so due to the playground conditions. Winning goal sealed by Del Piero.
It’s not easy to play on the ground made heaviest by a pouring rain, however the pace of the game is quite fast. Juventus starts well with a great scoring occasion after only two minutes; unfortunately Ibrahimovic, face to face with Sicignano, misses the net. He makes up for it on the winning action on 14’ minutes which leads Juventus to the first goal. Emerson assists him in the box, he dribbles Dalla Bona and crosses to Del Piero, who scores. Once achieved the advantage, the Bianconeri turn into attack in search for the second goal. Lecce hits back on 20’ minutes and Buffon saves beautifully a header from Bjelanovic. Two more attacks from Zeman’s side, then it’s time for Juventus to come very close to double the score, first with Camoranesi (33’) then with Ibrahimovic; the latter misses the occasion to deflect into the net after a clearance from Sicignano on a long-distance shot by Pessotto (36’).
A the end of the first half, the Giallorossi threaten with Cassetti, whose dangerous ball is grabbed down by Buffon, and Bojinov, whose finish from the distance ends over the bar.No substitution made during the break. The second half starts with Lecce in attack, but no real threat for Buffon also because the Bianconera defence keeps good watch. Then it’s Capello’s side’s turn, with the partnership Olivera-Ibrahimovic who worries the home side in at least a couple of occasions. Del Piero complains of muscle pains and asks for replacement, right when a lobbed shot from Emerson is intercepted by Sicignano. The captain is replaced with Kapo, who takes part to the best attacks of the Bianconeri in the second half. On 27’ minutes, Ibrahimovic dribbles the opponents’ defenders his own way, the ball arrives to the Frenchman who passes over for Camoranesi’s head, but the Italian-Argentine player misses the chance and the action is vain. It’s Camoranesi again on 34’ minutes with a header that misses the target. The home side becomes dangerous in the last minutes of the game, first with Bojinov (37’), then with Cassetti (39’), while on the Bianconeri’s side a fine action by Kapo is countered by a face-to-face with the goalkeeper. The fight is brought to an end by an amazing save from Buffon on a cross by new-entry Vucinic.

LECCE – JUVENTUS 0-1
GOALS: 14'fh Del Piero
LECCE: Sicignano, Silvestri (41'sh Vucinic), Diamoutene, Stovini, Abruzzese (41'sh Eremenko), Cassetti, Ledesma, Dalla Bona, Giacomazzi, Bojinov, Bjelanovic. Manager: Zeman. Substitues: Anania, Paci, Rullo, Eremenko, Vucinic, Babù, Pinardi.
JUVENTUS:Buffon, Pessotto (39'sh Tudor), Thuram, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Camoranesi, Emerson, Appiah, Olivera, Del Piero (14'sh Kapo), Ibrahimovic. Manager: Capello. Substitues: Chimenti, Tudor, Montero, Tacchinardi, Blasi, Kapo, Zalayeta
REFEREE: De Santis
YELLOW CARDS: 4'fh Diamoutene, 28'sh Ledesma, 40' fh Pessotto, 20' sh Thuram, 45'sh Tudor, 47'sh Sicignano
 

Gino Genesio

Senior Member
Nov 14, 2004
4,329
++ [ originally posted by simpson-juvefan ] ++
yeah i can't understand why you some of just critize all the time, we have won and that is the most important thing for today!

Zlatan is sometimes selfish, I have to admit that but, IMO he is very important in our attack, we would not be first in Serie A and in Cl if he wasn't here, i am sure of that! His skills are worldclass and when you look at our style of game than i understand that Zlatan tries to dribble! Most of the time he is alone up front and when you look how many high balls which other players would lost, i can't understand the critism! + he is dangerous in any minute in the game!

Also i don't understand why there is yet a discussion over Del Piero, he will never be the old, and everybody knows that, but he is doing his best, is our captain and has now scored regular (winning) goals this season and he is very important for Juve!

forza Juve!
you are right man great post

man i think i just have to stick with this Topic (matches)

here i dont have a lot of fights

ps juventinooo great picture thx man
 

Primo

Juventus FC - Philippines
Dec 20, 2002
1,436
++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++
I really cant comment too much, our guys were playing in a lake !!!

If I had a nickel for everytime the announcer said "water-logged pitch".....

The only thing that really bothers me right now is Zlatan. He is overrated, and everytime he gets the ball, he tries to dribble thru everyone on the pitch, and gets the ball taken away (except once, he decided to pass to DP, and he scored....but that doesnt make up for the other times)

Calcio Italia magazine crowns him the next Van Basten


Van Basten ??????:confused:

I am crowning Zlatan the next Marcelo Salas
Oh, he's still a project in the making. You should've seen his potential in the Bayern game. He's a monster.
 

Primo

Juventus FC - Philippines
Dec 20, 2002
1,436
++ [ originally posted by simpson-juvefan ] ++
yeah i can't understand why you some of just critize all the time, we have won and that is the most important thing for today!

Zlatan is sometimes selfish, I have to admit that but, IMO he is very important in our attack, we would not be first in Serie A and in Cl if he wasn't here, i am sure of that! His skills are worldclass and when you look at our style of game than i understand that Zlatan tries to dribble! Most of the time he is alone up front and when you look how many high balls which other players would lost, i can't understand the critism! + he is dangerous in any minute in the game!

Also i don't understand why there is yet a discussion over Del Piero, he will never be the old, and everybody knows that, but he is doing his best, is our captain and has now scored regular (winning) goals this season and he is very important for Juve!

forza Juve!
I couldn't agree more. My sentiments exactlty, to the last detail.

He has a hell-of-a control. What others would have lost, he would control with ease. That's probably the reason why he's given so much assists this season.
 

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