Serie A: Juventus vs Sampdoria [Jan 20 2008] (8 Viewers)

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
The logic's fairly easy, snoop. By stressing their defense, you keep yours out of trouble. But still, it implies a risk and most people want to be very cautious ATM.
underlined part tells it all! And that's my whole point, We don't have the required defenders that can handle that risk. If you had Cannavaros out there, all these discussion wouldn't happen. I think you guys missed the comedy show this week. I hope you are kidding with me when you tell me that Boumsong and Molinaro can mark Cassano and Montella at fast counter attack.. :faq1:


I disagree. Because we have some problems defensivly, the best thing we can do is play the trident, on both sides we're gambling If we play with 4-4-2 or 4-3-3, I say lets gamble with 3attackers.



It doesn't need calculations or chemistry mate....because they're good offensively and because playing with 4-4-2 wont make much diff, taking a risk and playing with 3up-front can hurt them more. We're playing home, If this game was away then I'd worry more but we're playing home, it makes sense more to attack and have 3 upfront.
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Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Checked it, found one channel called 24, hope thats the one. If you're next to your tv Reb, can you check your Kanal 24, If they're showing basketball game then thats the one we're talking about. Please.
Yes! It's that, and there are other two serie a channels on turksat, e2 and NTV sport. Both of them free to air..
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
hmm, really? any reason?
Really.

-You don't really play the 4-4-1-1 formation when you're playing home.

-That formation is played for a draw, we never play for a draw.

-Keeping both Trezeguet and Del Piero out? I don't know what would you call this. Lets also keep Buffon out.

-Iaquinta can't be played upfront alone, he's the type of a striker that needs at least one player beside him to open for him some space in order for him to put press and run, thats his style.


and the list goes on. thats just my opinion.
 
Jun 7, 2003
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i have trust in ranieri he will do what he thinks is right...he is a good manager...some of guys think that if we dont play attacking football we are already lost...but whoever will play alongside legro could play a good game even if its boumsong...so there is the possibilty that we dont receive any goals...

and should almiron play the guy is good technicaly and is able to play the deadly pass...so he could be the key i believe in him...
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Really.

-You don't really play the 4-4-1-1 formation when you're playing home.

-That formation is played for a draw, we never play for a draw.

-Keeping both Trezeguet and Del Piero out? I don't know what would you call this. Lets also keep Buffon out.

-Iaquinta can't be played upfront alone, he's the type of a striker that needs at least one player beside him to open for him some space in order for him to put press and run, thats his style.


and the list goes on. thats just my opinion.
- You can play any formation you want in your home and away, as long as it stop you opponents, there is no reason for not playing any of them.

- We did play for draw, and this one is not build to earn a point. It is build to help the team defensively, do I need to remind you how many key players we are missing? 4-3-3 in this exact match is like all-in for a poker, we don't have that good hand to call "All-in".

- Del Piero can step in anytime when it is needed. None of them are untouchables anyway..

- Iaquinta like he did score that crazy goal against Empoli, he proved himself that he can take the ball alone and score from a crazy position. If things don't go the right way for Palladino, Del boy can come in to play along Iaquinta, and Nedved takes Palladino's place. and everything bacl to usual 4-4-2. See, It's no chemistry to understand my formation, is it? ;)
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
i have trust in ranieri he will do what he thinks is right...he is a good manager...some of guys think that if we dont play attacking football we are already lost...but whoever will play alongside legro could play a good game even if its boumsong...so there is the possibilty that we dont receive any goals...

and should almiron play the guy is good technicaly and play the deadly pass...so he could be the key i believe in him...
Almiron definitely should start this one, Ranieri can't risk this game with playing Tiago, enough is enough..
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
- You can play any formation you want in your home and away, as long as it stop you opponents, there is no reason for not playing any of them.
Negative. You don't play formations to stop your opponents.

- We did play for draw, and this one is not build to earn a point. It is build to help the team defensively, do I need to remind you how many key players we are missing? 4-3-3 in this exact match is like all-in for a poker, we don't have that good hand to call "All-in".
I know how many players are missing, but fielding 4-4-2 wont make much diff defensively if thats what you want....we played 4-4-2 in coppa and we conceded 3 goals, I don't think we'll concede more playing 4-3-3, but the diff will be that we'll humilate them offensively.

Some situations in football requires to take a risk and gamble, there's no better time to play our top 3strikers whom are in their top form. Only coward coach would keep them out.


- Del Piero can step in anytime when it is needed. None of them are untouchables anyway..
You don't make sense at all. Why would you bench Del Piero AND Trezeguet when they're on their top form?

And again with your untouchable comments towards Del Piero.....I never mentioned anything with him being untouchable, but looks like when someone runs out of a reply he comes up with weird things.

- Iaquinta like he did score that crazy goal against Empoli, he proved himself that he can take the ball alone and score from a crazy position. If things don't go the right way for Palladino, Del boy can come in to play along Iaquinta, and Nedved takes Palladino's place. and everything bacl to usual 4-4-2. See, It's no chemistry to understand my formation, is it? ;)
He did nothing alone against Empoli. and scoring a beautiful goal doesn't mean he can do things alone on the pitch, he doesn't has Del Piero skills he hasn't got a vision and isn't a good passer and isn't better than Trezeguet from heading to finishing. He's a fast and heated up player, playing him alone is a mistake.

Since you think Del Piero can make a diff and since you suggest that If things don't go well we can put Dp ahead of Palladino why not start with him? I can't see the point of putting the one whom you think can make a diff on the bench.



Anyway snoop, looks like you always think you're right. sometimes i admit when you're spot on and when you make sense i credit you. but thats not vice versa with you. no matter what you always think you're right and you don't really take the other side's vision and think of it but you try to prove your point no matter what.

thats not a good way to win a debate/argument. I'll drop it here.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Negative. You don't play formations to stop your opponents.
When you have shitty squad, and half of the key players are out injured and suspended, you try to find solutions, that's using brains and not being negative, if we play every game without thinking of opponent's tactics or weapons, we sure get fucked up and end up in the middle of the table. If won't stop our opponents then why managers or scouts usually watch other teams before they put a line up? Yeah let's play 4-3-3 every match, we shouldn't be negative, we will win all of them.. :faq1:


I know how many players are missing, but fielding 4-4-2 wont make much diff defensively if thats what you want....we played 4-4-2 in coppa and we conceded 3 goals, I don't think we'll concede more playing 4-3-3, but the diff will be that we'll humilate them offensively.
Usually when teams concede lots of goals, they play more defensive the next matches, and not the opposite. Oh and 4-4-2 wasn't the reason we conceeded loads of goals, it is not the first time we played 4-4-2, and we didn't concede 3 goals everytime we played it..

Some situations in football requires to take a risk and gamble, there's no better time to play our top 3strikers whom are in their top form. Only coward coach would keep them out.
we are 10 points behind Inter, we can't risk any shit anymore.


You don't make sense at all. Why would you bench Del Piero AND Trezeguet when they're on their top form?
errm that line actually doesn't make sense, let's play every on-form players, let's play without defense, since they all are out of form.. The answer is simple, they don't fit that formation.

And again with your untouchable comments towards Del Piero.....I never mentioned anything with him being untouchable, but looks like when someone runs out of a reply he comes up with weird things.

Since you think Del Piero can make a diff and since you suggest that If things don't go well we can put Dp ahead of Palladino why not start with him? I can't see the point of putting the one whom you think can make a diff on the bench.
Where could you put Del Piero in that line up? Left midfield? alone striker? where?






Anyway snoop, looks like you always think you're right. sometimes i admit when you're spot on and when you make sense i credit you. but thats not vice versa with you. no matter what you always think you're right and you don't really take the other side's vision and think of it but you try to prove your point no matter what.

thats not a good way to win a debate/argument. I'll drop it here.
Actually you are having that attitude, "it's not a chemistry dude, it is like that.." " you don't win argument that way snoop"..

I am not acting like I know-it-all, I am backing up my argument, and basically like any sane person, I think before I write, so there is no wrong to back up in what I say/write. Convince me, I will agree with you.

I'd start Almiron ahead of Tiago for this game too.

I'll check them in a while. But since Kanal 24 will show the game, I'm satisfied.
Check those two for the next matches, Kanal 24 doesn't always show Juve matches, sometimes the others do. Coppa game was on NTV sport btw.
 

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