Serie A: Juventus vs Inter [November 4 2007] (8 Viewers)

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rounder

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Jun 13, 2007
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Oh, shut the fuck up Moratti. What 10 years ? Does he have a proof or something that Inter were victims in last 10 years ?
If he doesn't then i expect someone to lodge a complain against him.
I want him to be forced to explain how were they the victims of the last 10 years, how they were the victims in 1997, 2000, or 2003.
And if he doesn't have a proof i expect the court to order him not use the "10 years victims" shit again.
Who gives a fuck about what Moratti says ?
 

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Azzurri7

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I agree with the statement but it does not reflect the current situation, we gave them two players and they took from us a lot.

Anyway, let's talk some tactics instead of passion even though I believe that passion wins games.

The biggest mistake Ranieri can make is if he plays Del Piero behind the strikers, his place is up front, not a playmaker. Leave that job to Nedved or Tiago.

Also, I hope Mancini starts with Zlatan and any other forward than Cruz, because our defence will not be able to contain Ibrahimovic and cover Cruz's positioning.
True, they took two players from us, but on the field they can take nothing from us, just like in our prev matches. We've always proved we're the best, they can probably outplay us in calcio things but not on the field. I like the idea that we're the under-dogs just to see our players motivated, but in fact we've never been the under-dogs.

I agree on Del Piero thing. He should play upfront, the best player to take the playmaker role would be one of Pavel or Mauro. They're both good.

and TBH, not because I dislike Zlatan, but I can never see him as a threat.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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and TBH, not because I dislike Zlatan, but I can never see him as a threat.
Nah, it IS because you dislike Zlatan. :cool:
He'll be a threat allright and the only way we can completely neutralize him is if he's their only striker.
Zlatan+ the speed of Suazo , Zlatan+Cruz's and Crespo's strenght and positioning....this will be a hell of a job for our defenders.
Our defense is yet to play against such a good pair of attackers.

We must beat them in midfield,especially on the flanks, and allow as much less possibile useful balls in the box or to Zlatan outside the box.
 

Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
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Just be prepared guys, this could be one cold shower. It could really ruin the season for us, with the expectations we have placed on this match.
 

Azzurri7

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Nah, it IS because you dislike Zlatan. :cool:
He'll be a threat allright and the only way we can completely neutralize him is if he's their only striker.
Zlatan+ the speed of Suazo , Zlatan+Cruz's and Crespo's strenght and positioning....this will be a hell of a job for our defenders.
Our defense is yet to play against such a good pair of attackers.

We must beat them in midfield,especially on the flanks, and allow as much less possibile useful balls in the box or to Zlatan outside the box.
No, it's not because i dislike him. Even when he was at Juve or even when he was playing for Ajax i've always said [don't know if you were here] that he's overrated and isn't really a threat.

He's the kind of player who likes to chew the ball, trying to do it Denilson, Ronaldinho and Zidane stuff but he never seem to impress me.

He can't shoot outside the box, isn't that good finisher and we can all tell that from his Juve days, he's good in air, doesnt defend well.

I'd consider the so called fat Ronaldo who is at Milan a threat, someone like him is a real threat.

Just like the Adrian Mutu dilemma, just because he scored some goals this season people were thinking he's a big threat and can make a diff.

There's a quality thing in football, and Zlatan doesn't has that quality IMO.
 

Wings

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Just be prepared guys, this could be one cold shower. It could really ruin the season for us, with the expecations we have place on this match.
My feelings exactly. We really need to turn up for this game, unlike other games when we enter the pitch looking tired even before the game starts. Which leads me to wonder, who is our fitness coach & what exactly does he see as match fitness?
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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No, it's not because i dislike him. Even when he was at Juve or even when he was playing for Ajax i've always said [don't know if you were here] that he's overrated and isn't really a threat.

He's the kind of player who likes to chew the ball, trying to do it Denilson, Ronaldinho and Zidane stuff but he never seem to impress me.

He can't shoot outside the box, isn't that good finisher and we can all tell that from his Juve days, he's good in air, doesnt defend well.

I'd consider the so called fat Ronaldo who is at Milan a threat, someone like him is a real threat.

Just like the Adrian Mutu dilemma, just because he scored some goals this season people were thinking he's a big threat and can make a diff.

There's a quality thing in football, and Zlatan doesn't has that quality IMO.
He developed a lot in last 2 years though. He gives his best matches against the toughest oposision and he regularly scores to Milan, Roma and the likes. He seems much more mature than he was with us in 2006 and he pays much more attention to team play. He is very hard to stop and he is a world class. We'll have to agree to disagree on this.

I'm aware us Croats, Bosnians and Swedes tend to overrate him though. Just like you're underrating him. So his true value is probably somewhere between my overestimation and your underestimation of Zlatan.
But i hope you're the one who's right about him and Zlatan will score the only goal of the match............... in his own net :D
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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Rab, I am sorry but you are just being biased. With Capello, Zlatan was given all importance and he wanted everyone to pass the ball to him, even Kovac was started because he's better at long balls that reach Zlatan, remember?

Zlatan with Inter is a totally different player, he has developed to something different, he does keep the ball with him more than other players but he produces something out of it. He's big and it is hard to play physical against him. He's smart and he can pull out something out of nothing.

I am not exaggerating if I say that 85% of Inter's success this season is solely because of him and our only hope to really paralyse him is for Mancini to play him alone or with the out-of-form Adriano.

Speaking of which, with all the trouble that Adriano is passing by and the shit he's getting from Inter, I'd like to give him a shot at Juve. If he leaves the shitty atmosphere in Milano he can can come back to the dangerous forward he once was.
 
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No, it's not because i dislike him. Even when he was at Juve or even when he was playing for Ajax i've always said [don't know if you were here] that he's overrated and isn't really a threat.

He's the kind of player who likes to chew the ball, trying to do it Denilson, Ronaldinho and Zidane stuff but he never seem to impress me.

He can't shoot outside the box, isn't that good finisher and we can all tell that from his Juve days, he's good in air, doesnt defend well.

I'd consider the so called fat Ronaldo who is at Milan a threat, someone like him is a real threat.

Just like the Adrian Mutu dilemma, just because he scored some goals this season people were thinking he's a big threat and can make a diff.

There's a quality thing in football, and Zlatan doesn't has that quality IMO.
delusional
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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I also agree with Dominic, there is absolutely visible technical superiority.

But still, I talked about passion and I still believe in it.
 

V

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Jun 8, 2005
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I see this as a dead-lock, 0:0 draw with some really ugly football, though TBH a loss would not shock me at all.
 

RAMI-N

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Inter striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic has sensationally declared that the two Scudetti that he won with Juventus in 2005 and 2006 were won fair and square on the pitch.

The infamous Calciopoli crisis last summer revoked the two league titles that Juventus had won under Coach Fabio Capello, with the first being declared void and the second being awarded to Ibrahimovic’s current club Inter.

“For the way we played, for what we gave on the field, and for the emotions that we experienced I feel as though I was a champion of Italy with Juventus,” said Ibra.

“On this I have no doubt whatsoever. My old team-mates and I won the two Scudetti on the field fair and square.”

These comments completely contradict Inter President Massimo Moratti, who has long complained that Juventus used underhand methods to win these titles.

On Sunday Ibracadabra will come up against his former team in the Derby d’Italia in Turin. The Swede is regarded as something of a traitor by Bianconeri supporters and he is sure to anger them even more if he were to score at the Stadio Olimpico.

Carlo Garganese
Goal.com
 

Morra10

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Apr 30, 2006
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its good to see ibrah still stay true to what he believes. It's funny to see moratti say that inter are the real victims of the last ten years, while ibrah is saying the complete opposite and that our titles were won on the pitch.
 

RAMI-N

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its good to see ibrah still stay true to what he believes. It's funny to see moratti say that inter are the real victims of the last ten years, while ibrah is saying the complete opposite and that our titles were won on the pitch.
Though I think he is trying to credit himself those two scudetti... :smoke:
 
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