[Serie A] Juventus vs Chievo (15 Viewers)

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,367
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



And thats why at least 3 players who were in better form than Del Piero left the club.

There always has to be a boss. No player can be equal or bigger than the coach. Thats the way it has to be.
I agree with what was happening during the Lippi era and how Darko, Di Vaio and fvcktard did not get to play. Lippi's bias was so clear and too bad these players were not given a chance to prove themselves.

But the point is, Capello should not do the same. The situation should not be looked at as revenge. I hope Del Piero's treatment at the Lippi era won't be repeated with Zlatan these days.
 

Zizou

Senior Member
Apr 21, 2003
3,965
I don't think that's the case Jeeks. Capello is just treating DP on the same level of the other players and with such a long season and long bench (Especially in attack) I'm sure they will all have a lot of chances to prove themselves, then when the last months of the season come, Capello will play those who proved their worth.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,367
++ [ originally posted by Zizou ] ++
I don't think that's the case Jeeks. Capello is just treating DP on the same level of the other players and with such a long season and long bench (Especially in attack) I'm sure they will all have a lot of chances to prove themselves, then when the last months of the season come, Capello will play those who proved their worth.
Looking back at my post, I fail to see that I said Del Piero is the current problem. The current problem is Zlatan. Zlatan is given the time to play 90 minutes regarding his performance on the pitch. Same was with Del Piero during the Lippi era and here I feel with Don Bes and I am starting to feel the Del Piero lovers building hatred towards Zlatan. Not because del Piero himself, but because he should be the first substitute. And the substitute shoudl be included when needed. Examples of that need (injury of a playing player or underperformance of a playing player)
 

Zizou

Senior Member
Apr 21, 2003
3,965
True but it would make more sense if say this was the 10th matchday of the season and not just the 1st one. There's been too much complaining for a match we won and could have scored more if it wasn't for some bad luck and good goalkeeping.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,367
++ [ originally posted by Zizou ] ++
True but it would make more sense if say this was the 10th matchday of the season and not just the 1st one. There's been too much complaining for a match we won and could have scored more if it wasn't for some bad luck and good goalkeeping.
And I got really bored of the whining. Had we lost one would say, but it was the first game and we got the three points. What I meant in what I said is that Capello is definitely biased towards Zlatan as Lippi was biased towards Del Piero. The outcome of a bias is not good. Here is when I look at a manager like Mourinho as no matter what he will stay the speical one :LOL:
 

inferis

Senior Member
Jun 5, 2005
666
wenger is better..

and talk about bias.... capello is biased towards bonnefoi... hell.. he is biased towards a lot of ppl then... birindelli, and all the reserves... and mancini is biased towards coco...
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


Ok, so DP sucked against Inter in the Supercoppa and gave away the ball a lot, are you going to base everything about Del Piero on that one game? If you think that Zalayeta is better than DP when it comes to technique, dribbling, ball control and passing you are a complete fool. You know that Ibra sucked last night and you know that he should have been replaced .
Totally agree by this one,but you know:when ibrahim plays awful it is not so "big thing",he is staying in the game,and that's the indicator of Capello's injustice.ibrahim really sucked last night,but who cares ,he is playing and Delpiero is not.
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



Fact is, no player should be as big as the coach.
True,so why are we here anyway,anyone has an opinion about transfers (no fan should be big as the booard ) about tactics,about Del Piero,about Trez,about ibrahim(no fan ishould be as big as the coach )...why are we here,let's close the forum and do it at home,watch the game,enjoy in watching boring games,and agree with all of the club moves.
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



And thats why at least 3 players who were in better form than Del Piero left the club.

There always has to be a boss. No player can be equal or bigger than the coach. Thats the way it has to be.
But coach need the players,he can't win by his own!He should not ignore them,especially not the captain and the leader.
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


I agree with what was happening during the Lippi era and how Darko, Di Vaio and fvcktard did not get to play. Lippi's bias was so clear and too bad these players were not given a chance to prove themselves.

But the point is, Capello should not do the same. The situation should not be looked at as revenge. I hope Del Piero's treatment at the Lippi era won't be repeated with Zlatan these days.
Lippi won 2 scudettos and was in the final of C.L.(of course counting the successes from this century).
Darko is awful player,IMO,I followed him all the time.
Miccoli(wich,if I'm not wrong, is called fvcktard by you) leaved us at the very same day of Ibrahim's arrival(ibrahim gets his number ,next day).
And don't worry,the treatment won't be repeated,Ibrahim plant himself here,and capello will only affix that feature.
 
Apr 26, 2004
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The season begins with a win for the Bianconeri, who win Chievo at the Delle Alpi in the late match of the season 2005-2006 first match. The match was dominated by Capello’s side and decided on 36 minutes by Trezeguet’s header. In comparison with the line-up who played the Supercoppa last Saturday, Thuram comes back, after recovery, and Abbiati makes his debut on his first official match in the black&white outfit.
After 6 minutes Capello must replace Zebina with Pessotto for injury. The Bianconeri attack from the very start of the game, with Trezeguet pressing Fontana after 9 minutes and after 11 his header ends wide of the net. On 14’ minutes Ibrahimovic’s attempt on goal is cleared and then deflected into the corner. Chievo push forward on 12’ minutes with Pellisier trying a shot on goal from the edge of the box. Juventus look for the goal persistently with Ibrahimovic and Trezeguet, who tries to worry Fontana on 31’ minutes. On 34’ minutes it’s still the Frenchman who gets dangerous and, assisted by Ibrahimovic, his shot on the turn ends slightly out of target. The deserved goal by Trezeguet comes two minutes later when the Bianconero forward gets Zambrotta’s cross pass and nods it in (1-0).
In the second half, Juventus easily manage their lead and look for a double score at the start of the half time with a fine pass between Vieira and Cannavaro but in front of the goal Trezeguet and Ibrahimovic hamper each other; then on 14 minutes Camoranesi attempts on goal with a left-footed shot from the edge of the box and on 20’ minutes with a header but Malagò clears on the line and again on 25’ minutes from the edge of the area, which is deflected into the corner.

JUVENTUS vs CHIEVO 1-0
GOALS: 36’f.h. Trezeguet
JUVENTUS: Abbiati, Zebina (6’f.h. Pessotto), Thuram, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Camoranesi, Emerson, Vieira, Nedved, Ibrahimovic, Trezeguet (38’s.h. Zalayeta). Manager: Capello. Substitutes: Chimenti, Kovac, Pessotto, Del Piero, Blasi, Giannichedda, Zalayeta.
CHIEVO: Fontana (1’s.h. Squizzi); Malagò, Mantovani, Mandelli, Lanna; Semioli, Sammarco, Brighi, Franceschini (38’s.h. Luciano); Cossato (13’s.h. Amauri), Pellisier. Manager:: Pillon. Substitutes: Squizzi, Mensah, Luciano, Amauri, Antonelli, Obinna, Marchese
REFEREE: Trefoloni
YELLOW CARDS: 13’f.h. Ibrahimovic, 6’s.h. Sammarco, 22’s.h. Malagò
ATTENDANCE: 24.693
GATE TAKINGS: 336.838
 

ZhiXin

Senior Member
Oct 1, 2004
10,321
++ [ originally posted by Rainforest Liu ] ++
The season begins with a win for the Bianconeri, who win Chievo at the Delle Alpi in the late match of the season 2005-2006 first match. The match was dominated by Capello’s side and decided on 36 minutes by Trezeguet’s header. In comparison with the line-up who played the Supercoppa last Saturday, Thuram comes back, after recovery, and Abbiati makes his debut on his first official match in the black&white outfit.
After 6 minutes Capello must replace Zebina with Pessotto for injury. The Bianconeri attack from the very start of the game, with Trezeguet pressing Fontana after 9 minutes and after 11 his header ends wide of the net. On 14’ minutes Ibrahimovic’s attempt on goal is cleared and then deflected into the corner. Chievo push forward on 12’ minutes with Pellisier trying a shot on goal from the edge of the box. Juventus look for the goal persistently with Ibrahimovic and Trezeguet, who tries to worry Fontana on 31’ minutes. On 34’ minutes it’s still the Frenchman who gets dangerous and, assisted by Ibrahimovic, his shot on the turn ends slightly out of target. The deserved goal by Trezeguet comes two minutes later when the Bianconero forward gets Zambrotta’s cross pass and nods it in (1-0).
In the second half, Juventus easily manage their lead and look for a double score at the start of the half time with a fine pass between Vieira and Cannavaro but in front of the goal Trezeguet and Ibrahimovic hamper each other; then on 14 minutes Camoranesi attempts on goal with a left-footed shot from the edge of the box and on 20’ minutes with a header but Malagò clears on the line and again on 25’ minutes from the edge of the area, which is deflected into the corner.

JUVENTUS vs CHIEVO 1-0
GOALS: 36’f.h. Trezeguet
JUVENTUS: Abbiati, Zebina (6’f.h. Pessotto), Thuram, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Camoranesi, Emerson, Vieira, Nedved, Ibrahimovic, Trezeguet (38’s.h. Zalayeta). Manager: Capello. Substitutes: Chimenti, Kovac, Pessotto, Del Piero, Blasi, Giannichedda, Zalayeta.
CHIEVO: Fontana (1’s.h. Squizzi); Malagò, Mantovani, Mandelli, Lanna; Semioli, Sammarco, Brighi, Franceschini (38’s.h. Luciano); Cossato (13’s.h. Amauri), Pellisier. Manager:: Pillon. Substitutes: Squizzi, Mensah, Luciano, Amauri, Antonelli, Obinna, Marchese
REFEREE: Trefoloni
YELLOW CARDS: 13’f.h. Ibrahimovic, 6’s.h. Sammarco, 22’s.h. Malagò
ATTENDANCE: 24.693
GATE TAKINGS: 336.838
Hi buddy, where have u been? :D
 
Apr 26, 2004
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Fabio Capello is satisfied with the victory against Chievo and he commented his lads’ performance: “I’m happy with how we played tonight. We created many chances, certainly I have been worried until the final whistle about the fact that we were not making the most of our chances, because Chievo never gave up and pressed on every ball. In the second half we tried to make our opponents expose but they did not. It’s a shame we could not make the most of certain shots in front of the goal. As a whole it was a good performance against a side who, as I had said before the match, were the hardest.”
 

Zizou

Senior Member
Apr 21, 2003
3,965
++ [ originally posted by giovanotti ] ++


Totally agree by this one,but you know:when ibrahim plays awful it is not so "big thing",he is staying in the game,and that's the indicator of Capello's injustice.ibrahim really sucked last night,but who cares ,he is playing and Delpiero is not.
But you guys are forgetting one thing. When a technical and light-weight player is not playing well, he has no use to the team so his substitution is justified. On the otehr hand, even if a big player is not playing well, he can still be useful to the team thanks to his inches (don't get me wrong ;)). That's the reality of football.

And it's not like Zlatan was that bad the other night, even the average ratings prove that. He was actually quite active and had a lot of chances. If that was a bad performance, then what do you call DP's performances when he doesn't even touch the ball once? I rather have a player on the field who guarantees me that he will be active (even if he misses all teh chances) than a player who does not guarantee me that and might or might not produce one bolt of genius in the whole game.
 

Maher

Juventuz addict
Dec 16, 2002
13,521
I cant believe how some of dp fans are hating cappello just because he is not letting their hero play , for one time guys think of juve first and not dp.

But one must say that capello must not play zlatan all 90 mnts weather he is good or bad .
 

Codino

The Rival
Jul 21, 2002
1,394
++ [ originally posted by lavenderguy ] ++
and btw, Codinho,now Totti is back, there's NOWAY ur Pirlo of AC Milan will get the no.10 jersey...dream on..and i tip Inter 2 beat AC twice this season!
:confused:? i do want totti to wear the 10
 

Holygr4le

Senior Member
Aug 4, 2005
2,539
He kept Zlatan on not cause he wore a big threat in the offence, just cause he´s good holding ball and lower the paste.

"Zlatan did just what I want him to do, exept he did not finish as well as I hoped." End quote Capello.

Then i agree on that Zlatan looked unbalanced.
I would love se him play a hole game smiling...:)
 

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