[Serie A] Juventus-Sampdoria (16 Viewers)

Dec 26, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Eire ] ++
bullshit i have seen most juve games this season and although some games they underperform they always show a fighting spirit and a hunger to close down opposition and make them work hard that is the juve ethos.

with the exception of the bayern game which was a once off occassion.
ya watch most of Juve games this season?? did ya watch most of their games back on 2003 and earlier???

If the answer is yes I find it very weried that ya cann't smell the difference...
 

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JuveBoy

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Feb 4, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Rhizoid ] ++
I predict a 2-1 win for Juve. We'll go 1-0 down, then fight back for the win.
No, please, I got a weak heart. I want 2-0 for us. not coming back.



Beside weak heart joke, it would be nice if we take 2-0 lead and control the game to spare our energy for Milan game ;)
 

Holygr4le

Senior Member
Aug 4, 2005
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++ [ originally posted by DelpieroForLife ] ++


I don't wanna break yar heart so I will agree in yar point ;)

Anyway I still believe that Capello's inability to break the ice when our team lacks ideas is the main reason of our problems...
Agreed...
But once again it is all about the movement...;)
 

Eire

Senior Member
Mar 1, 2004
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ya watch most of Juve games this season?? did ya watch most of their games back on 2003 and earlier???

If the answer is yes I find it very weried that ya cann't smell the difference... [/QUOTE]

watching juve frequently since 1995.

2003 was an awesome year cant argue with that, going back further in lippi time to when we reached the champions league final 3 years in a row during this spell juve were super often comming back from behind and always able to get back into a match, but juve had an almighty team then. i agree to an extent juve have not got the same spirit as that but the diff is this juve team nowadays very rarley gives away many goals. yeah juve lacked spirit against bayern but as i said before i believe that was a once off that will be forever corrected on nov 2 when the teams meet again in turin.

but the one fact you are overlooking is that in lippi last year what spirit desire hunger or passion did juve show in any match on any importance, since cap took over he has certainly fixed a number of problems.

ok this team might not come back like it did in those times but the majority of the time no matter how bad the play juve do show spirit
and desire 0-0 draw with milan last year. and if you look at juve results under cap you will notice a lot of 1-0 or single goal victories showing juve has the spirit to win tight games.

honestly in the face of problems juve has a great battling spirit

my main point is that instead of losing the spirit we once had juve are on the way back to once again rediscovering having an unbelievable mentality spirit and desire.

going back to lippi last season in charge who would have said juve would win the scudetto the next year and be back in a positon to challenge for the double so quickly.

cap may be a lot of things like set in his ways etc, but on occassions he has surprised people with positive thinking.

and i have no doubt that when the chips are down come april and may juve will still be battling for honours both in europe and italy with a little luck
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Eire ] ++
ya watch most of Juve games this season?? did ya watch most of their games back on 2003 and earlier???

If the answer is yes I find it very weried that ya cann't smell the difference...
watching juve frequently since 1995.

2003 was an awesome year cant argue with that, going back further in lippi time to when we reached the champions league final 3 years in a row during this spell juve were super often comming back from behind and always able to get back into a match, but juve had an almighty team then. i agree to an extent juve have not got the same spirit as that but the diff is this juve team nowadays very rarley gives away many goals. yeah juve lacked spirit against bayern but as i said before i believe that was a once off that will be forever corrected on nov 2 when the teams meet again in turin.

but the one fact you are overlooking is that in lippi last year what spirit desire hunger or passion did juve show in any match on any importance, since cap took over he has certainly fixed a number of problems.

ok this team might not come back like it did in those times but the majority of the time no matter how bad the play juve do show spirit
and desire 0-0 draw with milan last year. and if you look at juve results under cap you will notice a lot of 1-0 or single goal victories showing juve has the spirit to win tight games.

honestly in the face of problems juve has a great battling spirit

my main point is that instead of losing the spirit we once had juve are on the way back to once again rediscovering having an unbelievable mentality spirit and desire.

going back to lippi last season in charge who would have said juve would win the scudetto the next year and be back in a positon to challenge for the double so quickly.

cap may be a lot of things like set in his ways etc, but on occassions he has surprised people with positive thinking.

and i have no doubt that when the chips are down come april and may juve will still be battling for honours both in europe and italy with a little luck
We don´t have a problem of spirit. Our problem is the way we are playing. Capello´s style of play is to wait for a mistake from the opposite side. and our game is very slow. and because of these reasons we get problem when are behind. but as I said I hope that we don´t have a problem with spirit. in The game against bayern the players did not have the right determination, but I hope they learned from their mistakes.
 

Eire

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Mar 1, 2004
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juve need vieira to add that something special in the midfield, i am slightly drunk right now as a few of my friends have returned from austrilia after a year away, so sorry if i was rambling on a bit.

i will admit sometimes most notable against liverpool second leg last year and bayern this year we lack creative thinking and resort to long ball.

last year v liverpool was capello s fault for his relaxed attitude befor the game which i think he has learned from and will be a positive factor in this seasons knockout phase i hope, and this year against bayern( which as you were in attendance maresca i fear may have scared you mentally, and the only way for you to fully recover is to see juve get revenge in turin)

against bayern players were just tired and drained once off.

basically cap is a lot wiser than a lot of people here give him credit for after all the great jose mourinho also got stuffed by liverpool.

i think he has learned from his mistakes and he has brought this squas along way and he will continue to do so and vieira is important to that progression.

but as i said before

if a team of

abbiati

zambo kovac thuram chiellini

camo emo gianichedda mutu

Dp and Trez

can defeat sampdoria given the players missing

buffon cannavaro nedved zlatan vieira their is a lot of moneys worth of talent. then it all goes well fro juve

it like chelsea could they defeat tottenham without

cech terry robben lampard and drogba, yeah probly but look they have a billionaire juve are not far behind and we have tight purse strings. but doubt barca real or man utd could even milan tonight against empoli.

cap is doing a good job ok its a bit early but hopefully this time next week following the samp milan and bayern games cap and juve will get some praise in here

and after all abbiati is quite shaky the might as well have me in goal now in my drunken state and i still would save deislers shot
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by DelpieroForLife ] ++


Maybe not all... but the littile that left wasn't enought to bring us back to the games in many ocassions...
thats really unfair... ur not only saying the coach demoralized the team but also u r accussing the players of being the same as INTER players.
I think the juve fighting spirit is still there and it wont go away easily.
We showed it in the Parma game, and some parts of the Bayern game... not the whole game.
 

Tino

Il Tedesco
Feb 1, 2005
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only 3 hours left!

Than it will be come the 9 victory of the blackn white kings from Torino!!

And the best on this day! Premiere (german pay tv) will show it live! :) YES!!!

My tipp: 2:0 Ibra 2 times!

Forza Ibra
 

Bozi

The Bozman
Administrator
Oct 18, 2005
22,747
++ [ originally posted by Tino ] ++
only 3 hours left!

Than it will be come the 9 victory of the blackn white kings from Torino!!

And the best on this day! Premiere (german pay tv) will show it live! :) YES!!!

My tipp: 2:0 Ibra 2 times!

Forza Ibra
dude ibra is being rested,though like the look of that score
 

Diego

Senior Member
Aug 30, 2005
663
Rai Uno Lineup:

Chimenti
Zabrotta
Thuram
Kovac
Chiellini
Camoranesi
Emerson
Blasi
Mutu
Del Piero
Trezeguet

Looks nice! But I would like Pesotto instead of chiellini or is he injured?
 

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