[Serie A] Juventus - Lecce (9 Viewers)
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when we were beaten by them they were just 5th placed team in england. so what if they were champions afterwards, beating juventus is sure a confidence booster and everyone knows that confidence means a lot. and the thing is that pool were better than us, which cannot be said about chelsea and milan, where they were just lucky. juventus were outplayed by werder in the first leg and im just afraid we wont be able to outplay them at home
I don't think that's true at all. A Lacki simply has another oppinion about our play and results than you and Vinman do. Doesn't mean he is as arrogant about other oppinions such as yourself.
It's not about ignoring our relatively bad play, is just about being needlessy pessimistic and about patronising the oppinions of others.
It's not about ignoring our relatively bad play, is just about being needlessy pessimistic and about patronising the oppinions of others.
A_Lacki has NO opinion. That's the problem. What he's saying is that the result is good. Well that's great, but we know the result is good, that's a fact. He's hardly contributing to our discussion of Cap's tactics.
I am yet to see A_Lacki's opinion on Cap's tactics. Vinman is being pessimistic and I don't think we will lose the scudetto, but he has a point when he says this could cost us the scudetto.
I am yet to see A_Lacki's opinion on Cap's tactics. Vinman is being pessimistic and I don't think we will lose the scudetto, but he has a point when he says this could cost us the scudetto.
Well, one after another
@ Vinman: Oh yes I have seen the Werder game, and have to partly agree. Bremen were the better team, but I think that we played, like an away team has to play in a game, against a team that is so good on their own turf. At least we did that for 87 minutes. We defended quite well, although we were weak on corners and took our chances very well, although we could have scored 2 more in the first half. In away games, its IMO all about taking every chance you get to score and defend as good as you can. Let them play and strike on the counter attck. IMO thats the tactic for difficult away games. I was also quite satisfied with Capello in this game, cause he subed Ibra very early, cause he was shit and no coach is to blame, when you unluckily loose a game in 5 minutes. Can happen, Werder were lucky in the end, still I think we have a very good situation for the away game.
@ Fli: I am sick to talk about this Pool game, but anyways: Pool had a good defense throughtout the whole last season, but were very poor in attack, thats the reason why they had this bad situation last year. Also, in Liverpool, DP scored a goal, which was disallowed for offside, but reaplays show, it wasn't, so it could have been 2-2, and Juve would have advanced. In Turin, Canna made a header that went off the post. Bad luck, if it would have gone in, Juve would have maybe gon through. However, thats the Champions League. You need a good balanced team, players that can be extraordinary in certain situation, and the luck, thats simply needed in Cup games. Unlucky last year, but hopefully, things will go better next year.
@ Andy: I told you, why I think its funny, to discuss tactics after a game about Lecce. One more time: In these games, you can only win. I am satisfied with the result and it gives me nothing, when I see Juve beating Lecce 5-0 and playing like the Brazilian NT, cause in the end the people will say: So what? Its not hard to play like that against Lecce! Everybody knew you will bet them. Understand? You struggle against teams like Lecce, cause you know, that everything less than a win is embarising. Even a draw would have been a loss in the end. So the result is what counts.
@ Seven: Why the heel are you back??? You don't know nothing about me, and come up with a statement like this
Now seriously: How many of my posts have you read before??? Have you read my post in the team talk about my opinion on the tactics? But for you: I am a big fan of the trident, and I would love to see this in Juventus. However, I trust Capello, who IMO is the best coach on earth. We can all say that his tactics are crap, but in the end I think he knows what he does. He coaches the players everyday and knows who can play together, and who not. I won't critize him, cause I can't say, that I could do it better, and so far, the Italians (who think about the result first) are satisfied, and me too. I want Juve to win and score beautiful goals, cause thats what I like about my team. Goals and wins. In the moment there is nothing to critize. We are first in the league and are about to advance in the CL.
I am surly not one of those guys, who say that you can't critize your team, cause otherwise you are not a real fan. I think critic has to be justified. At the moment its completely unjustified.
@ Vinman: Oh yes I have seen the Werder game, and have to partly agree. Bremen were the better team, but I think that we played, like an away team has to play in a game, against a team that is so good on their own turf. At least we did that for 87 minutes. We defended quite well, although we were weak on corners and took our chances very well, although we could have scored 2 more in the first half. In away games, its IMO all about taking every chance you get to score and defend as good as you can. Let them play and strike on the counter attck. IMO thats the tactic for difficult away games. I was also quite satisfied with Capello in this game, cause he subed Ibra very early, cause he was shit and no coach is to blame, when you unluckily loose a game in 5 minutes. Can happen, Werder were lucky in the end, still I think we have a very good situation for the away game.
@ Fli: I am sick to talk about this Pool game, but anyways: Pool had a good defense throughtout the whole last season, but were very poor in attack, thats the reason why they had this bad situation last year. Also, in Liverpool, DP scored a goal, which was disallowed for offside, but reaplays show, it wasn't, so it could have been 2-2, and Juve would have advanced. In Turin, Canna made a header that went off the post. Bad luck, if it would have gone in, Juve would have maybe gon through. However, thats the Champions League. You need a good balanced team, players that can be extraordinary in certain situation, and the luck, thats simply needed in Cup games. Unlucky last year, but hopefully, things will go better next year.
@ Andy: I told you, why I think its funny, to discuss tactics after a game about Lecce. One more time: In these games, you can only win. I am satisfied with the result and it gives me nothing, when I see Juve beating Lecce 5-0 and playing like the Brazilian NT, cause in the end the people will say: So what? Its not hard to play like that against Lecce! Everybody knew you will bet them. Understand? You struggle against teams like Lecce, cause you know, that everything less than a win is embarising. Even a draw would have been a loss in the end. So the result is what counts.
@ Seven: Why the heel are you back??? You don't know nothing about me, and come up with a statement like this
Now seriously: How many of my posts have you read before??? Have you read my post in the team talk about my opinion on the tactics? But for you: I am a big fan of the trident, and I would love to see this in Juventus. However, I trust Capello, who IMO is the best coach on earth. We can all say that his tactics are crap, but in the end I think he knows what he does. He coaches the players everyday and knows who can play together, and who not. I won't critize him, cause I can't say, that I could do it better, and so far, the Italians (who think about the result first) are satisfied, and me too. I want Juve to win and score beautiful goals, cause thats what I like about my team. Goals and wins. In the moment there is nothing to critize. We are first in the league and are about to advance in the CL.
I am surly not one of those guys, who say that you can't critize your team, cause otherwise you are not a real fan. I think critic has to be justified. At the moment its completely unjustified.
I still don't know why some of you keeps on moaning and defending Capello.
We might pass Bremen on the 7th, but I doubt our team reaching Paris Airport in may....Last year Capello was praised for our 28th Scud and was also defended after the L'Pool's game as If It's not his fault. FFS, It's up to him whether to let his men play an attackin football or not It's up to him to change that boring old fashion 4-4-2 that reminds me of Trap's 02-04 with the Azzurri, though Traps formation was way much more Interesting.
I just don't understand these people who keeps on asking us to wait for the return leg and then talk....Why the hell should we wait for the 2nd leg when we already can finish this from the start...??? Why do we always have to put ourselves in these sitiuations...?? Yet, nobody would answer this question.
And just for the record, Bremen was beaten 4days before we played them by team that is already preparing for Germany Regional League - North and waving goodbye for the Bundesliga. Funny, ehh???
I'd like somebody to explain me the 17shots that Buffon recieved in the first half, not to forget the poss of the ball they got....
I'm not a pessimist person at all....I always had and still have faith in this team...I just don't wanna smell another Liverpool pathetic perfomance. Our squad is waay better than that. It's up to Capello to know how to use it.
We might pass Bremen on the 7th, but I doubt our team reaching Paris Airport in may....Last year Capello was praised for our 28th Scud and was also defended after the L'Pool's game as If It's not his fault. FFS, It's up to him whether to let his men play an attackin football or not It's up to him to change that boring old fashion 4-4-2 that reminds me of Trap's 02-04 with the Azzurri, though Traps formation was way much more Interesting.
I just don't understand these people who keeps on asking us to wait for the return leg and then talk....Why the hell should we wait for the 2nd leg when we already can finish this from the start...??? Why do we always have to put ourselves in these sitiuations...?? Yet, nobody would answer this question.
And just for the record, Bremen was beaten 4days before we played them by team that is already preparing for Germany Regional League - North and waving goodbye for the Bundesliga. Funny, ehh???
I'd like somebody to explain me the 17shots that Buffon recieved in the first half, not to forget the poss of the ball they got....
I'm not a pessimist person at all....I always had and still have faith in this team...I just don't wanna smell another Liverpool pathetic perfomance. Our squad is waay better than that. It's up to Capello to know how to use it.
i agree with Azzurri7
Its up to coach to make the team play well.
Some fans said to me that we can be happy with the result, but it was a bad performance by juve, bremen is not as strong as some want to make them(probably to have a better excuse why juve lost)....
ok, forget how we lost that lead, but when trez scored 2-1 i was thinking do we really get away with so sh-t performance, we had much less shots on goal and ah i am tired to even reply what all was bad.
Team like juve should have played much better against bremen. The qualitys are so differant between those two clubs and bremen isnt usually very good in CL.
Its up to coach to make the team play well.
Some fans said to me that we can be happy with the result, but it was a bad performance by juve, bremen is not as strong as some want to make them(probably to have a better excuse why juve lost)....
ok, forget how we lost that lead, but when trez scored 2-1 i was thinking do we really get away with so sh-t performance, we had much less shots on goal and ah i am tired to even reply what all was bad.
Team like juve should have played much better against bremen. The qualitys are so differant between those two clubs and bremen isnt usually very good in CL.