[Serie A] Juventus - Lazio (9 Viewers)

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
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Our club doesnt even know what a win is anymore. I can see us drawing the remainder of our fixtures and win nothing, simple cos we cannot score!


We're Pants! How can we call ourselves champions in the run of form we're in.
 

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giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
Moggi D'Messiah said:
Our club doesnt even know what a win is anymore. I can see us drawing the remainder of our fixtures and win nothing, simple cos we cannot score!


We're Pants! How can we call ourselves champions in the run of form we're in.
And what about the guy from your avatar ,maybe he scores using that ballet move.:D
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
16,493
giovanotti said:
And what about the guy from your avatar ,maybe he scores using that ballet move.:D


Im sure he'll be doing a few of those against Lazio aswell. Man, Were below low on form. Ive never seen us this poor before. There is something dodgy going on behind close doors at our club, im sure of it. There is no desire at all! :disagree:
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
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swag said:
Milan could have made something out of Lecce but didn't because of focus on the CL. Messina still has a shot at grabbing some points.
Tbh, we were going to be in deep hole If Milan managed to steal the 3points....what a shame though they didn't manage.
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
16,493
We got no C.L anymore so why havent we wrapped up this title? Instead were giving Milan confidence by our slow finish across the finish line.
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
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Moggi D'Messiah said:
Im sure he'll be doing a few of those against Lazio aswell. Man, Were below low on form. Ive never seen us this poor before. There is something dodgy going on behind close doors at our club, im sure of it. There is no desire at all! :disagree:
Yes,I think that our problem is more serious than iy looks.
The culmination were those red cards,and there is no desire at all.I smell a conflict among the coach and a few players.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
swag said:
Milan could have made something out of Lecce but didn't because of focus on the CL. Messina still has a shot at grabbing some points.
I would say the same thing for Treviso match.
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
16,493
It'll be interesting to see what happens. Hopefully we can stay as a unit and win this title for once. Even though it'll be a case of ''About Time''! Doubt i'll even celebrate more a case of Relief. But it shouldnt be like that should it. We had a amazing first half of the season, but only look a shadow of that now. Weve only lost 1 serie A game this season yeah. Whats the record for the longest unbeaten run then?
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
Does anyone think Juventus are losing points in Serie A on purpose so they will attract more audience in the latter stages?

Or maybe they're doing this so Milan would get confused on which tournament to concentrate on and thus lose it all just like last year?

:D Don't take me seriously.
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
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Jeeks said:
Does anyone think Juventus are losing points in Serie A on purpose so they will attract more audience in the latter stages?

Or maybe they're doing this so Milan would get confused on which tournament to concentrate on and thus lose it all just like last year?

:D Don't take me seriously.

A Conspiracy Theory!:D

Maybe Capello talked to Chris Carter (the X files producer).
 

Bozi

The Bozman
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Oct 18, 2005
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giovanotti said:
Yes,I think that our problem is more serious than iy looks.
The culmination were those red cards,and there is no desire at all.I smell a conflict among the coach and a few players.
i am thinking the same here mate, there must be an internal problem with the way we have been so disjointed, there seems a lack of team spirit which is what is needed to pull the team through a rough period. i am guessing that there is resentment towards zlatan being garaunteed a starting place even though he has been plying terrible
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Jeeks said:
Does anyone think Juventus are losing points in Serie A on purpose so they will attract more audience in the latter stages?

Or maybe they're doing this so Milan would get confused on which tournament to concentrate on and thus lose it all just like last year?

:D Don't take me seriously.

Looking at Capello's celebration, I think we're not losing points on purpose.
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
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Bozi.78 said:
i am thinking the same here mate, there must be an internal problem with the way we have been so disjointed, there seems a lack of team spirit which is what is needed to pull the team through a rough period. i am guessing that there is resentment towards zlatan being garaunteed a starting place even though he has been plying terrible

You are reading my mind,Bozi!

Last season it was a hard team structure: Ferrara,Montero,Tacchinardi,Buffon,Del Piero,Zambro,Nedy and Camor,but this year is something different,a core is broken and the manifetstations are sharper.
 

Bozi

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Oct 18, 2005
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giovanotti said:
You are reading my mind,Bozi!

Last season it was a hard team structure: Ferrara,Montero,Tacchinardi,Buffon,Del Piero,Zambro,Nedy and Camor,but this year is something different,a core is broken and the manifetstations are sharper.
that is normally where the captain will have a strong influence on the team on and off the pitch, but it must be hard when the coach makes it very clear you are not a favourite of his. we have lost a lot of influential players fro the dressing room and it is looking like there is not the harmony we had before. zambrotta,canavarro,alex and gigi all look to be united but i fear a split with the coach and most of the dressing room
 

giovanotti

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Aug 13, 2004
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Bozi.78 said:
that is normally where the captain will have a strong influence on the team on and off the pitch, but it must be hard when the coach makes it very clear you are not a favourite of his. we have lost a lot of influential players fro the dressing room and it is looking like there is not the harmony we had before. zambrotta,canavarro,alex and gigi all look to be united but i fear a split with the coach and most of the dressing room
Exactly!

I agree that no player should be above the team,but no coach should be above the team...and my opinion is that Del Piero is much more valuable
for the team than the coach who spent only 2 seasons with us!

Lippi had a potential to control the team,and at the season 03/04 he had a problem with the defence(Legro and Montero as DCs), that was our main problem than,but he incorporated his heart into Juve and even if he is not the man who is showing his emotions,he was a part of Juve and Juve was part of him.

Capello is just a simple mercenary,who tbh won a scudetto with us,but the atmosphere is totally different.
 

Bozi

The Bozman
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Oct 18, 2005
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giovanotti said:
Exactly!

I agree that no player should be above the team,but no coach should be above the team...and my opinion is that Del Piero is much more valuable
for the team than the coach who spent only 2 seasons with us!

Lippi had a potential to control the team,and at the season 03/04 he had a problem with the defence(Legro and Montero as DCs), that was our main problem than,but he incorporated his heart into Juve and even if he is not the man who is showing his emotions,he was a part of Juve and Juve was part of him.

Capello is just a simple mercenary,who tbh won a scudetto with us,but the atmosphere is totally different.
well lippi really was Mr Juve and you see in the "club" atmosphere he has brought to the italian national team that his greatest strength, above even his great tactical nous, was his ability to man-manage players. he made playerd want to play for him, for juve and for the fans. lippi teams played with heart and passion, something we are sadly lacking at the moment. capello on the other hand has made it clear from the outset that he is already looking for his next "project" so that will not install any great belief in the players that he is part of a long term plan to bring glory to the club. also his handling/ mis-treatment of del piero will be causing resentment with the other players. though in all fairness alex has shown great dignity in his handling of this and showing why he should be in the team with his performances this season
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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Something dodgy could be going on behind closed doors, as most of you say..

Also, Capello spent one third of the season contemplating "Should I stay or should I go", allowing the media to speculate for a long period of time, something which must have had a negative impact on the players and gradually lowered their feelings for "the cause".

Bottom line is I support the "internal problem theory". Seems very likely.

We've been in very poor form for a long time and I'm only hoping that late equaliser against Cagliari, and the spirit of Cannavaro (because he's all about that), turned some of that around for us.
Because if it didn't, we're fucked.

My anxiety is rising, I'm definately suffering from the insomnia described by djleli, and I'm basically just keeping my fingers crossed.
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
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Bozi.78 said:
well lippi really was Mr Juve and you see in the "club" atmosphere he has brought to the italian national team that his greatest strength, above even his great tactical nous, was his ability to man-manage players. he made playerd want to play for him, for juve and for the fans. lippi teams played with heart and passion, something we are sadly lacking at the moment. capello on the other hand has made it clear from the outset that he is already looking for his next "project" so that will not install any great belief in the players that he is part of a long term plan to bring glory to the club. also his handling/ mis-treatment of del piero will be causing resentment with the other players. though in all fairness alex has shown great dignity in his handling of this and showing why he should be in the team with his performances this season
Man,this is a great post!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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