[Serie A] JUVENTUS 2-0 SPAL [September 28th, 2019] (1 Viewer)

[italiacalcio10]

are errors commited due to youth better errors than errors commited due being out of position?

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Love it. Cant wait to see Ronaldo play in this formation i am quite confident he is going to rape.

I wonder is matuidi at LB a blessing disguise? now we can play rabiot at LCM to link up with players while still benefitting from matuidis insane workrate on the left?

Obviously just speculation, but would imagine that errors related to youth wouldn't be as severe. Even if you've trained as a fullback for 3 years in the youth system and with the under23s, that's still 3 years where you practiced the movements, vs a player who has never played the position before and could be prone to very severe errors. We've seen youth slot in before in games and Serie A is usually the least willing of the leagues to do it. But it isn't uncommon in the EPL for a team to throw in an academy player into the fold every so often. I just see it as lower risk. Highest upside for me would be Bernardeschi because he has played the position before, and offensively can do things that other fullbacks lack. Matuidi...i guess he runs a lot and can tackle...

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Matuidi away from the attack is a very good thing.

Except he will be the only source of width in a formation that is notoriously narrow lmao. Matuidi with those sexy overlapping runs and stepovers...can't wait.

 

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[Cerval]

Dybala starts according to Agresti

 

[pavluska]

I’d rather have a 4-3-1-2 with Ramsey in Khedira’s position and Dybala as trequartista.

Instead of one, we'd concede two goals, Dybala wouldn't be as effective, and bench would be just a bunch of grumpy mids.

 

[italiacalcio10]

iirc Sarri would use the TQ position as almost a shadow striker...a player that is less of a playmaker and more of a guy who will make runs beyond the strikers. That is more of a Ramsey. This formation switch is ideal for Dybala. You basically got a great rotation now between 3 guys for striker. My only questions is what happens with Bernardeschi and Costa. I suspect that Sarri will train Bernardeschi to either play that role or a LCM role. He talked about a specialist mf role. Can Costa play centrally as a striker or trequartista? Otherwise he sits.

Decisions decisions.


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[Knowah]

He's gonna bomb forward every chance he gets trying to dribble by the touchline. Boy what a show it'll be.

That's true in principal, but SPAL is probably not going to press us. So less chances of inaccurate passes close to our goal since there probably are not many SPAL players there.

Matuidi is caught out of position, too far ahead, when he's in midfield. I cannot imagine how far out he'll be playing as the lb.

 

[Alin]

Spal will target and attack down our left for sure, but more worried about player in front of Matuidi: Rabiot.

Big diff going from Matuidi to current, more so than usual defensively unstable Rabiot in midfield. Bigger problem when opponent specifically targets that part of field.

Better to throw Can or a CB at LB. Can better choice. Need some form of attacking output with no left winger.

Corect me if i’m wrong but how exactly is Emre Can who barelly played at all this season and hasn’t played in an official game as a LB in something like 5 years not a guy who will most definitely get targeted by Spal there?

By the same logic, Matuidi is supposedly more of a reliability and likely to get targeted/exposed despite being more of a workhorse, left footed, defensively solid and mainly a guy who by simply looking at his experience is a much less probability to go into reckless tackles and challenges around our box compared to an eager to prove himself guy as Emre Can, Demiral or even Bernardeschi for example on this matter.

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Me making all this pro’s about Matuidi might really lead to a jinx ffs

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Also, about having a guy to overlap and create width on that left side i wouldn't worry too much if Blaise will be the guy as he sure can put up endless runs up and down the field, aswell because we all know Ronaldo will be drifting to the left as a LF/LW most of the time anyway tbh

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Last thing i’d like to add, just to clear it out, i wouldn’t worry that much about who covers at LCM for this one either, be it even Rabiot, as last i recall we have like a bunch of holding mids in the squad who could and should be capable to take on some extra defensive duties against the ‘almighty’ Spal at the very least.

 

[pavluska]

Corect me if i’m wrong but how exactly is Emre Can who barelly played at all this season and hasn’t played in an official game as a LB in something like 5 years not a guy who will most definitely get targeted by Spal there?

By the same logic, Matuidi is supposedly more of a reliability and likely to get targeted/exposed despite being more of a workhorse, left footed, defensively solid and mainly a guy who by simply looking at his experience is a much less probability to go into reckless tackles and challenges around our box compared to an eager to prove himself guy as Emre Can, Demiral or even Bernardeschi for example on this matter.

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Me making all this pro’s about Matuidi might really lead to a jinx ffs

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Also, about having a guy to overlap and create width on that left side i wouldn't worry too much if Blaise will be the guy as he sure can put up endless runs up and down the field, aswell because we all know Ronaldo will be drifting to the left as a LF/LW most of the time anyway tbh

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Last thing i’d like to add, just to clear it out, i wouldn’t worry that much about who covers at LCM for this one either, be it even Rabiot, as last i recall we have like a bunch of holding mids in the squad who could and should be capable to take on some extra defensive duties against the ‘almighty’ Spal at the very least.

I didnt say Can wouldn't be targeted.

Our left flank will be targeted regardless of who we play at LB bc no one is an ideal soln.

Having Matuidi in midfield (one of handful or less of reliable/reference points this season...except when he has the ball in/near the box) is a constant that makes sense to me to keep rather than have two weak spots in the XI, one in front of the other.

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Can is the only "holding" mid in the squad. Matuidi is the only other mid who has physicality and can defend well but doesn't play in the holding role. Bentancur is more of a regista. Not sure who you mean. We have more mezzalas than holding mids.

 

[s4tch]

Dybala starts according to Agresti

looks okay to me considering availability of players

 

[Alin]

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Can is the only "holding" mid in the squad. Matuidi is the only other mid who has physicality and can defend well but doesn't play in the holding role. Bentancur is more of a regista. Not sure who you mean. We have more mezzalas than holding mids.

Bentancur,Khedira and Emre Can are all primarily ‘holding’ or defensive minded mids regardless of how Allegri or Sarri played/plays them right now and i’d even make a case about Rabiot also being first defensively minded but in truth he seems to have more technique and unpredictability to his game at least compared to the others mentioned.

And as i said, Matuidi can’t and won’t play every game from now on so if not home against Spal can we afford to experiment in midfield so we can play the most recommended cover at LB then i honestly don’t know when the case should apply.

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Anyway, all this long talk won’t be influencing or leading to anything afterall tbh, we’ll see how things pan out today and what team Sarri eventually decides to use, but if one thing i think we all can agree on is that Juve can and should be able to get the job done against Spal no matter what circumstances might there be.

 

[Spath]

Matuidi as LB...Bad times.

 

[Gian]

Why dont we use Emre Can anymore?

 

[JuveMkd]

Why dont we use Emre Can anymore?

Why would we, he sucks.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

iirc Sarri would use the TQ position as almost a shadow striker...a player that is less of a playmaker and more of a guy who will make runs beyond the strikers. That is more of a Ramsey. This formation switch is ideal for Dybala. You basically got a great rotation now between 3 guys for striker. My only questions is what happens with Bernardeschi and Costa. I suspect that Sarri will train Bernardeschi to either play that role or a LCM role. He talked about a specialist mf role. Can Costa play centrally as a striker or trequartista? Otherwise he sits.

Decisions decisions.


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I still think 4-3-3 will be his base formation and the one we primarily use when Costa is fit. 4-3-1-2 is clearly going to be another option for us, but only when Costa is injured or out of form.

Long-term if we were to play this formation tho, Ramsey would for sure be the starting trequartista for us, and Bernardeschi would be the next option. Don’t know how Costa would do in that position, would be interesting to see.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Matuidi as LB...Bad times.

Against SPAL it should be ok. But yeah, from transfer market inadequacies and injuries it’s left us short of options for this one.

 

[lgorTudor]

looks okay to me considering availability of players

what happened with Cancelo and Spinnazola? out of the loop

 

[s4tch]

what happened with Cancelo and Spinnazola? out of the loop

both infected with the allegri virus

 

[Gep]

looks okay to me considering availability of players

That front 3 Thought I had a KitKat in my hand. Then realised they were my fingers.

 

[am0110]

both infected with the allegri virus

El Fatiha.

 

[RoiLezard]

Matuidi away from the attack is good, but closer to our goal is bad. Any bad pass he makes could end up in our net. For sure the opponent will press him as hard as possible when he receives a ball on the touchline. Hopefully he just punts it.

But we have no other choice.

Well the poor guy has to be somewhere lol


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[RoiLezard]

Why dont we use Emre Can anymore?

I feel bad for him. If he had stayed at Liverpool he would have won a CL title,they wanted him to stay. He must be cursing his life now.


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