[Serie A] Juventus 1-4 Parma (6- January- 2011) (20 Viewers)

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
You make no sense whatsoever, what delusional optimistic dream I am living in? Show me where did I say anything about dreams or anything of the sort or just shut the fuck up.

A decade ago? In 2001? did you predict we would suffer in the CL of 2003? What else did your brain of yours predict?

Get the fuck out of here, you're nothing but a big mouth.
You make no sense either, you just drop one liners full of hate and flaming...
As for your world, we could debate for decades on this, you may think we are competitive, ok its your right, but stop insulting ppl for believing smth else,
you have no right shut ppls mouths, just because they dont agree with your views,
you are not the center of the universe you know, there are actually a tone of different other POVs out there in the world and they are not all wrong just because they arent yours!

Enough with your sarcastic, provocative and insulting one-liners, they offer nothing to the forums and are also against the regulamentation and the moral concepts of dialog.


If you have anything to discuss, bring some arguments and let those arguments convince your fellow debater, if you cant have a appropriate dialog, then dont bother all together.

And by a decade i mean the systematic effort to test our political influence since the EPO trials and the flaming and propaganda of the Italian press long before that.
Issues that i brought forward to discuss and worry about our future, but were cynically shot down as delusional by your autarchic despotism with your one liners.

Stop trying to filter out reality from the forums, you have the right to ignore it, but ppl have the right to discuss it and talk about it.
I may not be sharing your romantic views about reality, but i never insulted you, or provoked you, stop doing that!
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,393
You make no sense either, you just drop one liners full of hate and flaming...
As for your world, we could debate for decades on this, you may think we are competitive, ok its your right, but stop insulting ppl for believing smth else,
you have no right shut ppls mouths, just because they dont agree with your views,
you are not the center of the universe you know, there are actually a tone of different other POVs out there in the world and they are not all wrong just because they arent yours!

Enough with your sarcastic, provocative and insulting one-liners, they offer nothing to the forums and are also against the regulamentation and the moral concepts of dialog.


If you have anything to discuss, bring some arguments and let those arguments convince your fellow debater, if you cant have a appropriate dialog, then dont bother all together.

And by a decade i mean the systematic effort to test our political influence since the EPO trials and the flaming and propaganda of the Italian press long before that.
Issues that i brought forward to discuss and worry about our future, but were cynically shot down as delusional by your autarchic despotism with your one liners.

Stop trying to filter out reality from the forums, you have the right to ignore it, but ppl have the right to discuss it and talk about it.
I may not be sharing your romantic views about reality, but i never insulted you, or provoked you, stop doing that!
The thing is I never said we are competitive, I am only attacking you for coming all of a sudden to the forums and telling us how right you were all along. Pathetic and sad behaviour to be honest but I guess you are a miserable person, so you don't know any better. That was the last thing I say to you, you come out of nowhere and think you know everything. Hej då!
 
Mar 30, 2006
3,747
Everything went wrong today but I am not going to attack melo or say the team is garbage. For us Melo has been our player of the season, aside from this game. All in all if he stayed on the field and Quag stayed on .. it probably would have not happened. Juve has been alot different under Del Neri and one loss doesn ot cancel his good work. Iti s clear the squad needs to strengthen especially in the forward department .. Quag is the only player in our forward category who can be a regular starter in Juventus. We need a 20 goal CF to replace Trez and a left winger capable of providing a threat similar to Krasic on the right. I think with 2 or 3 top signings this Juve can realistically compete with any team.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,393
He does have a point JCK you horrible horrible man. :lol:
He may have a point, I am not arguing about that but coming all of a sudden to tell us he was right a decade ago is pathetic, don't you think? And doing that on the worst game we played in months is just more sign of how pathetic this behaviour is.
 

Ironz

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2010
1,851
He may have a point, I am not arguing about that but coming all of a sudden to tell us he was right a decade ago is pathetic, don't you think? And doing that on the worst game we played in months is just more sign of how pathetic this behaviour is.

JCK ''me ol mucker'' im messing with you fella. but i see where you're coming from.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
The thing is I never said we are competitive, I am only attacking you for coming all of a sudden to the forums and telling us how right you were all along. Pathetic and sad behaviour to be honest but I guess you are a miserable person, so you don't know any better. That was the last thing I say to you, you come out of nowhere and think you know everything. Hej då!
And Jacko i mean, seriously why are you so sad?
You dont mind us losing 4-1 home, in the first game of the season, by a relegate zone team, full of players we partially own
and you mind me claiming that from what i saw from that game, it was a crushing defeat we deserved to suffer.

WTF, why me or anyone else cares what you think?
Why dont you F-off and get on with that?
why shouldnt i have the right to post what i think, for my team's match, in my team's thread?
Just because you will get upset ??

Yea right...
and who gives a freakin coin? do you give about what i think of your posts?
But do you see me provoking or insulting you with one-liners? No!

I specifically pointed out that i m not addressing to you with my posts,
you are the sad story that is keep harrashing me, not me...
 

Ironz

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2010
1,851
And Jacko i mean, seriously why are you so sad?
You dont mind us losing 4-1 home, in the first game of the season, by a relegate zone team, full of players we partially own
and you mind me claiming that from what i saw from that game, it was a crushing defeat we deserved to suffer.

WTF, why me or anyone else cares what you think?
Why dont you F-off and get on with that?
why shouldnt i have the right to post what i think, for my team's match, in my team's thread?
Just because you will get upset ??

Yea right...
and who gives a freakin coin? do you give about what i think of your posts?
But do you see me provoking or insulting you with one-liners? No!

I specifically pointed out that i m not addressing to you with my posts,
you are the sad story that is keep harrashing me, not me...

Ive seen a lot more people hear doing the same Cronios, its annoying but thats how it is mate. Not worth getting heated up about. Im sure there are things said here that you dont agree with and chosen not to reply to. Its a forum, full of opinions, anger, joy, and all sorts of emotional shit in one. with the added sarcasm and people going out their way to wind others up. You've been here long enough have you not to be cracking up now. Chin Up C! :tup:
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
The only player that gets more than a 5 out of 10 for this game is Pepe - tried his heart out and showed some ball skill.

Storari of course gets a 9!
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,006
This is the 4th year running how we lack the quality but we still feel the same pressure from the name Juve, that sets objectives to win, win and win. In Ranieri's two seasons we still had players who were used to that pressure and could come back after a bad result or bad series. In the last two seasons we lost those players (either by retirement, leaving the team or due to their age) and the new guys couldn't and still can't handle it.
I don't see a way out in the near future. Only buying very good players with strong character can get us out, but we don't have money for them. :confused:
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
2,788
Everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. Firstly Quag's injury...which took the team down to playing with ten men, as amauri, his replacement, is simply not a footballer. he can't pass, cant dribble, can't run, cant head, can't tackle. He is washed up, flotsam on the beach, and someone should just put the fucker out of his and our misery...so down to ten players after 3 minutes.

Then...Big Phil reverted to the self-destructive volatile child he was for most of last season and during the world cup. The problem is his destructive tendencies ruined the game for us, taking our team down to 9 PLAYERS on the pitch. 9 v 11...we were fucked. Didn't stand a chance.

Melo needs to learn. Or to be sold. As no top teams continue with players who kick opponents in the face for fun. Still, on the basis of the last few months, we should keep him, but ANY more of this kind of bullshit, come summer time, he has to be sold. Send him to a team which doesn't have ambition of reaching the upper echelons of domestic and european football. He will be happier there...He must understand how responsible he is for the defeat. And also for the weakened midfield we will now have for what?? 2/3 games??? for the duration of his suspension.

The main problem we had in this game, was playing 9 v 11. Looking at it that way makes it easier to understand and accept the result was down to some shocking misfortune, an individual attack of puerile volatility, Grosso's complete lack of defending the left flank, and mainly...lack of squad depth.

To see la formica atomica do so well, made it easy to compare him with our left winger...Pepe. With Lanzafame gone, maybe Marotta will be tempted to bring back Giovinco??? he was very respectful in staying silent when he scored both goals, especially as he must have been bubbling inside with joy and excitement. A good showing from the lad...

Whilst Sorensen had Giovinco to mark, i don't see the young dane as the main culprit for his goals, I see the main blame going to grosso, who simply does not defend his flank .he is invisible. Another footballer whose time has long finished. Really, for large portions of this match we were literally playing 8 v 11...Sorensen was dragged into the middle, due to grosso not defending his flank, and the whole defence desperately trying to cover...if grosso added much to the offence, i could understand, but he doesn't and didn't.

With this squad, we can get into the champions league, our aims should remain top four, with hopes of 2nd/3rd.

Its painfully obvious that we need:
new prima punta
left back
to get Melo right in the head, or to sell him.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,393
And Jacko i mean, seriously why are you so sad?
You dont mind us losing 4-1 home, in the first game of the season, by a relegate zone team, full of players we partially own
I am sad because of how you are gloating that you knew this all along where in fact you did not know shit.

Of course I mind the loss, I am not less angry about it than you are, rest assured.

Now fuck off.
 

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