[Serie A] JUVENTUS 1-2 Roma (Jan. 23rd 2010) (6 Viewers)

Jun 20, 2009
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I think Ferrara makes a great lightning rod for everyone's wrath. And he's done more than his fair share of inept damage to this team in a number of matches. But I think it's a bit misplaced to suggest that Ferrara was the reason for our failures today.
He was obviously. Two of our weakest points this season are being unfocused in critical moments and being vulnerable to counter attacks and Ferrara could not do a single thing to improve these, and it cost us this match as well as numerous other matches. Seems to me that you are trying to protect Ferrara too much for some reasons. Wake up! He needs to be sacked as soon as possible if we still want to be here in Serie A next year.

Ferrara has to go and I have said that since the beginning of October when we had not lost any match in the league yet. The fact that the board still has not done that yet is beyond my understanding!

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With all due respect I think Ferrara might not be the right one for this Juve.
His inexperience really hurts the team. Except in the friendlies and in the match versus Roma, he has always been outwitted by the opponent's coaches: Gasperini, Blanc, Van Gaal and even Zenga and Papadopulo, you name it...
 

donpiero

Stella D'Argento
Jul 3, 2009
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Our possessional play looks flakier than ever. Passes look more like hospital balls than artistry. No wonder we have so many f*****g players lined up for treatment on the slab.

Movement is abysmal.

Tactics, if can dignify Ferrara's attempts to direct the team as tactics, are so poor as to make me want to put a brick through the the f*****g television set in sheer frustration at the lack of creativity and movement.

I believed that the bulk of our squad were good enough to challenge for the title at the end of August and that position gradually became impossible as Ferrara's directionless 'leadership' sapped confidence out of the players as each shambolic performance over the last 11 weeks eats away at players like Melo, Diego, Del Piero, Grosso and a few more.

We still need another 7 points to guarantee safety.:broken:
Spot on :tup:
Can't even add a single word
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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He was obviously. Two of our weakest points this season are being unfocused in critical moments and being vulnerable to counter attacks and Ferrara could not do a single thing to improve these, and it cost us these match as well as numerous other matches. Seems to me that you are trying to protect Ferrara too much for some reasons. Wake up! He needs to be sacked as possible if we still want to be here in Serie A next year.

Ferrara has to go and I have said that since October when we had not lost any match yet. The fact that the board still has not done that yet is beyond my understanding!
I'll agree that given how we played today (which I think wasn't stinking up the pitch, as we have been lately), the loss can be attributed to a lack of focus and fortitude in finishing off the match. That much Ciro plays a role in, definitely. It's the sort of thing past Juve sides have been solid about -- hanging tight in tight moments to finish out a match and earn the points. We've failed miserably at that much of the entire season, IMO.

But if you think I like Ciro in this position, you're crazy. What I don't like is a lot of the forum attitude that if we sack Ciro, all our problems go away and we are Scudetto contenders instantly again -- which is complete horse shit.
 

Amaurisimo

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Dec 8, 2007
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Juventus 1-2 Roma
Del Piero 51 (J), Totti pen 68 (R), Riise 93 (R)
Stadio Olimpico

Gianluigi Buffon was sent off and John Arne Riise's stoppage-time header turned it around for Roma's victory at Juventus. Luca Toni's game lasted only three minutes and Antonio Candreva received his Juve debut.

So much was at stake for this clash, as Ciro Ferrara fought to save his job against the man he replaced two weeks from the end of last season. It was a head-to-head for third place and the Giallorossi were unbeaten in 11 Serie A games. Totti, Fabio Cannavaro and January signing Candreva were on the bench, but Momo Sissoko was back from Africa Cup of Nations duty.

It was -5C at the Stadio Olimpico in Turin and there was immediately bad news for Luca Toni, who pulled up with a left knee injury. He limped off shaking his head and was unable to continue. Totti wasn't expecting such an early setback and so took around five minutes to get ready and step on in his place.

Hasan Salihamidzic blasted over from distance, while at the other end Vucinic kept a difficult ball in play at the byline to cut in past Fabio Grosso and hit the side-netting.

Claudio Marchisio finalised a good move with a sweeping cross from the left that whistled inches from Amauri's head in the six-yard box.

A poor Nicola Legrottaglie clearance allowed Totti to fire over, while Amauri nodded wide from Diego.

On 26 minutes Marchisio ran on to a Del Piero through ball, but stumbled over his own feet and slipped in the box under pressure from Juan.

Amauri soared above the crowd to nod Grosso's cross inches wide of the far post. From a corner Legrottaglie also turned his header off target.

A free kick flashed all the way across the face of goal and Del Piero got the slightest of headers, but couldn't get enough contact to turn it in from six yards.

Del Piero did hit the back of the net just before half-time, but the offside flag had already been raised.

Juventus broke the deadlock with a truly sensational effort from Del Piero. A Diego pass hit Juan's foot and looped into the air, turning into an accidental assist for Del Piero. He watched it come down and placed a precise left-foot volley into the far bottom corner from a very tight angle.

Julio Sergio plucked Del Piero's free kick out of the top corner, but there was a scare when Vucinic was caught inches offside clear on goal.

Roma were pushing more now and moments later Grosso used his arm across Rodrigo Taddei's chest to block his path in the box, so the referee pointed to the spot. Totti stepped up and buried the penalty into the near bottom corner despite Buffon guessing the right direction. It was Totti's first ever goal against Juventus in Turin.

Del Piero dribbled past one tackle and fell right on the edge of the area under a second, but the referee waved play on, as Juan got the ball. Vucinic was again caught offside by a matter of inches when clear on goal.

Juventus gave Candreva his debut by replacing Grygera, so Salihamidzic went back into the defence.

Amauri's header was plucked off the line by Julio Sergio, then Diego chested the ball forward to dribble into the area, but Marco Cassetti timed his tackle perfectly.

However, from that corner kick Roma went on the counter and John Arne Riise anticipated Buffon on Taddei's long ball, forcing him into a challenge well outside the box and inevitable red card. Del Piero made way for substitute goalkeeper Alex Manninger.

The game seemed to be heading for a stalemate when David Pizarro swept a cross in from the right for Riise to nod across the face of goal from the back post. It was three minutes into the four of stoppages and sparked wild celebrations among the Giallorossi.

Juventus: Buffon; Grygera (Candreva 76), Legrottaglie, Chiellini, Grosso; Salihamidzic, Sissoko, Marchisio; Diego; Del Piero, Amauri (Paolucci 90)

Roma: Julio Sergio; Cassetti, Burdisso, Juan, Riise; Pizarro, De Rossi; Taddei, Perrotta, Vucinic; Toni (Totti 8)

Ref: Tagliavento
Sent off: Buffon 83 (J)

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,178
But he's an attacking player. We all laughed at Ranieri and other coaches who didn't play Giovinco and some others because "they can't defend" and now we suddenly expect from our attacking players to defend.

If Candreva used to play as a winger (so did Seba, btw), it doesn't make him a defender, or even a box to box midfielder. The boy himself said that he's an attacking midfielder and the AMC role is his role. Not a winger, not a box to box midfielder and certainly not a defender.
But Candreva can defend, because I've seen him do it before, even if he says he can't. He can certainly play as a box to boxer because he has before.

While on the other hand, Giovinco HAS NOT, nor has he shown he can. That's the difference.

And several Azzurri lovers here claimed Candreva could as well, so again, it's not just me saying it.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,000
What hurts me the most is the way I reacted when we conceded.
I felt and reacted the same way as I do when Catania scores a last minute goal to Bologna.
I wasn't mad at all, nor did I curse.

Thanks a lot Ciro.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,178
What hurts me the most is the way I reacted when we conceded.
I felt and reacted the same way as I do when Catania scores a last minute goal to Bologna.
I wasn't mad at all, nor did I curse.

Thanks a lot Ciro.
I was the exact opposite. It was the worst match for me this season.
 

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