[Serie A] Juventus 1-1 Torino [February 18th, 2022] (4 Viewers)

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Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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We deserved to drop points but the goal - We need a replacement for Woj. I dont care if he hits it hard, when it goes straight to you, you get your hands and block it!
 

singus

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Sep 22, 2020
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So is that heat map a product of the midfield being so bad that those 3 have to backtrack so much?
Yup. We can only blame coach and tactics when we have a midfield of Kante, Gundogan and Kroos, and still fails. Otherwise we dont know if Torino simply just have better players.
 

MrMonkey

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2017
4,286
Yup. We can only blame coach and tactics when we have a midfield of Kante, Gundogan and Kroos, and still fails. Otherwise we dont know if Torino simply just have better players.
I got one answer so far. So who is the specific manager you would hire to replace Max?
 

singus

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Sep 22, 2020
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I got one answer so far. So who is the specific manager you would hire to replace Max?
Anyone interesting, with these inclusion criteria:
- Not italian
- Doesnt speak italian
- Is not best pals with Andrea, Chiellini or Buffon
- Has spent majority of his football/coaching career OUTSIDE of Italy
- Less than 50 years old
- Has coached in Bundesliga or Premier League
- Has reached a top 5 in those leagues, within last 3 years
- Has a strong character, isnt a pussy
 

MrMonkey

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Jul 15, 2017
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Anyone interesting, with these inclusion criteria:
- Not italian
- Doesnt speak italian
- Is not best pals with Andrea, Chiellini or Buffon
- Has spent majority of his football/coaching career OUTSIDE of Italy
- Less than 50 years old
- Has coached in Bundesliga or Premier League
- Has reached a top 5 in those leagues, within last 3 years
- Has a strong character, isnt a pussy
I guess you missed my "specific" as part of the question?

Unless I'm missing something ....name please :b81:
 

Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
5,762
I know you’re not a big fan of Max but what available manager would you hire for next season? More blame deservedly goes to management. Biggest aspect that pissed me off was Max’s decision to play Sandro. I guess Rugs wasn’t available?
Zidane was avaible in the summer.
But now it's too late. Allegri is on 9.5m for the next 3-4years.
Unless HE step down our hands are tied
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
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The first one is Vlahovic's heatmap. As you can tell, he's nowhere near the box.

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The second one is Dybala's heat map. Looks like you're looking at a pivot role in midfield.

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Last one is Morata's. Proper box2box midfielder.

We barely penetrated their final third.
:lol: jesus fucking christ

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So is that heat map a product of the midfield being so bad that those 3 have to backtrack so much?
All in the name of balance
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,006
Zidane was avaible in the summer.
But now it's too late. Allegri is on 9.5m for the next 3-4years.
Unless HE step down our hands are tied
There were rumours about a pretty cheap clause to fire him.

But Zidane hasn't proven half of what Allegri has. No, not even with those CL trophies. This is a building job, not a rotated squad..
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,930
There were rumours about a pretty cheap clause to fire him.

But Zidane hasn't proven half of what Allegri has. No, not even with those CL trophies. This is a building job, not a rotated squad..
:rofl:

Anyway, this building job is more in the hands of the management. Max can only do so much with the crap he's been given. How many points has Alex Sandro alone cost us this season
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,006
:rofl:

Anyway, this building job is more in the hands of the management. Max can only do so much with the crap he's been given. How many points has Alex Sandro alone cost us this season
I always find it funny and weird when people overestimate what coaches do (in both directions). So I agree on the bold part but we should be doing better now.

Zidane was given an all-time best 11. What has he done post-Ronaldo ? Let's see what does without that team. Well, we already kind of did but that would be a harsh judgement too
 

GrandeGigi

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2012
1,884
I always find it funny and weird when people overestimate what coaches do (in both directions). So I agree on the bold part but we should be doing better now.

Zidane was given an all-time best 11. What has he done post-Ronaldo ? Let's see what does without that team. Well, we already kind of did but that would be a harsh judgement too
There are many out there that underestimate what coaches do too. One of those is our president who brought in a rookie last year with no previous experience at all.
 

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