[Serie A] JUVENTUS 1-0 Calciopoli Directors [December 7th, 2018] (3 Viewers)
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Cmon, you are overestimating them waay too much. This is the same team that lost to Sassuolo, lost vs Parma and drew 2:2 with Torino at home at the start of the season, then they got lucky in CL with Tottenham with 2 goals in last 5 minutes, they got very very lucky vs PSV when they should have been 1:0 down at half time with Handanovic`s red card, they got lucky winning away at Sampdoria with a goal in 95th minute, they got lucky winning vs Milan in 93rd minute with Dumb-a-rumma`s howler, now they are with 1 win in last 5 games in all competitions - at home vs freaking Frosinone...
They may be motivated as hell for this one, they may play the game of their lives, but they are still with Dumbrosio and Asamoah as full-backs, Vecino in midfield and Politano the italian Ronaldo on the wing. We only have DeSciglio to worry about, and he is still more solid than both Dumbrosio and Asa, Icardi can and probably will score a header, but it wont matter at the end as we can and probably will score 3 or even more, depending on how many of our chances we capitalise.
We got this, calma! A repeat of the result vs Napoli looks logical, 3:1, 4:1... Once they concede the first goal, they will slowly but surely collapse, it`s what they do, it`s their DNA...
They may be motivated as hell for this one, they may play the game of their lives, but they are still with Dumbrosio and Asamoah as full-backs, Vecino in midfield and Politano the italian Ronaldo on the wing. We only have DeSciglio to worry about, and he is still more solid than both Dumbrosio and Asa, Icardi can and probably will score a header, but it wont matter at the end as we can and probably will score 3 or even more, depending on how many of our chances we capitalise.
We got this, calma! A repeat of the result vs Napoli looks logical, 3:1, 4:1... Once they concede the first goal, they will slowly but surely collapse, it`s what they do, it`s their DNA...
https://www.football-italia.net/131701/report-spalletti-close-juve
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Football Italia should be disbanded for that title.
Nothing important, just two kids with their 2 cents...
JUVENTUS: SERIE A’S HARD-TO-WATCH, BORING, WINNING MACHINE
Date: 7th December 2018 at 12:01pm
Written by: Vito Doria
Dominance of a league can be admired and respected because a club has repeatedly achieved success but the lack of a rival to halt their triumphant run can make the competition boring to follow. Witnessing a team maintain such hegemony can be more intolerable if that squad is not exciting to watch.
Juventus have won every Serie A title since 2011/12 but they are not the most pleasing to watch for most neutrals. Their 3-0 victory away to Fiorentina last Saturday evening was their 13th from 14 Serie A matches in 2018/19 and it was another effortless performance from La Vecchia Signora. Do you think that the Bianconeri actually care if they provide a spectacle or not? Not the slightest.
Club legend Giampiero Boniperti said at the inauguration of the Juventus Stadium, “Winning isn’t important at Juventus, it’s the only thing that counts.” The current La Vecchia Signora side epitomises that to an extent but more than anything they do what is enough to win matches and they would prefer to focus on defending than attacking.
Italian teams are historically known for their pragmatic approach and emphasis on defending but most sides from the Italian peninsula predominantly focus on gaining maximum rewards with minimal effort. Like the slogan on the t-shirt worn by the obese man on the front cover of Fatboy Slim’s 1998 album ‘You’ve Come a Long Way, Baby’, “I’m #1 so why try harder?” (wtf?!?
)
Juve don’t have to try harder in Serie A because their domestic dominance is secure for now. Perhaps it is a mentality that non-Italians or people who don’t follow Italian football don’t understand or want to accept. Italian tacticians often treat football matches like a game of chess and Bianconeri coach Massimiliano Allegri can wait for the opposition to make their moves.
How about the remainder of Serie A though? Are they doing enough to force Juventus out of their conservative shell?
Supporters of rival clubs often criticise Juve on social media for getting preferential treatment of referees and it is easy for Italians to highlight controversial moments in great detail. Not enough Italian teams have been able to pose a serious threat to Juventus’ hegemony of Italian football in this decade but very few are atoning for a lack of domestic success with good runs in Europe either.
Finances or lack of them don’t help either but different tactics could be implemented by other coaches. Although Maurizio Sarri did not coach Napoli to a Serie A title, his Partenopei team were a title rival for Juventus without resorting to defensive tactics or playing dour football. They were winning games with great attacking flair and swagger but they crumbled under the pressure and lacked the squad depth that La Vecchia Signora had. Juventus do possess great attacking weapons like Cristiano Ronaldo, Paulo Dybala, Mario Mandzukic, and Douglas Costa just to name a few and Allegri can coach proactive teams like he did at Cagliari from 2008 to 2010 but they won’t exert extra energy when it is unnecessary.
Italian teams and Juventus, in particular, should not be singled out though. How many teams in world football now or even in the past won by playing spectacular football? Not many. Pep Guardiola might have done it at Barcelona and Bayern Munich and he is doing it now at Manchester City but would anyone say the same about many other teams that dominate their domestic leagues? Probably not.
It would be preferable for Italian teams to utilise their attacking talents to the best of their abilities instead of trying to win matches and trophies in the most lackadaisical manner possible but Juventus are not going to play champagne football just for the sake of keeping the neutrals happy.
Unless the rest of Italy builds stronger squads or break the Bianconeri hegemony by playing with style, the Turin-based giants are going to remain dour to watch for quite some time.
Alternatively, if you want to follow Serie A and you want to be entertained, just don’t watch Juventus.
Are the Nerazzurri poised to upset the Old Lady?
By Toby Prince
On paper, Inter don't stand a chance. The Allianz Stadium is dread for any team. The Nerazzurri came away broken and battered after their last seven visits. It was difficult to score, let alone win. At the moment, Juventus’ confidence is at an all-time high. Never mind Cristiano Ronaldo, the rest of the squad is imperious. Then again...
Although 11 points adrift, a shocker could just be on the cards this Friday.
Considering the manner Napoli wrestled Juve last term, Massimiliano Allegri's Old Lady was expected to reach menopause this season. The Southern club gave a good fight, but the ‘Sarri Ball’ altars dissented. A club record 91 points weren't enough. Although still a distance off, Inter and AS Roma showed incredible progress too, closing the gap on the Scudetto tyrants. Lazio and AC Milan made inroads as well.
However, it’s been that same, boring script. Almost midway through the campaign, the Old Lady isn't showing her age. She has an eighth consecutive Scudetto in sight. The Bianconeri are unbeaten in 14 Serie A games, losing the maximum points just once against Genoa. Napoli tracks blindly, eight points behind.
Talk's begun about a potentially unbeaten campaign. As in 2012/13, the Turin warriors toss aside all supposed title rivals. Lazio and Napoli suffered 2-0 and 3-1 defeats respectively. While the pair could be pardoned for attempting a revolution on the road, AC Milan took huge blows in their own backyard. Their San Siro co-tenants are next in line.
Inter's a tough nut to crack, however. The Derby d'Italia is often unpredictable and tense. Similar to the Old Lady, the Nerazzurri, are running a fine streak. After a slow start, scratching five points from their opening four matches, Luciano Spalletti's men have reached for their ardour. Admittedly forced to share spoils with Roma, they’ve achieved impressive wins over Milan, Lazio and Genoa.
Spalletti's sturdy philosophy is paying off. Slowly but steadily, the bullet-headed Tuscan grinds out results. With the right blend of motivation and tactics, he's built a resolute defence while nurturing his prolific attackers. He could change the complexion of the Serie A if it all comes together tonight.
Spalleti isn't afraid to make adjustments. He switched to a 4-3-3 system against Roma but may revert to 4-2-3-1 to curtail Juve's deadly trio led by Ronaldo.
With Stefan de Vrij and Milan Skriniar anchoring the back, there isn't much to fret. It's said Donald Trump has contacted the pair about standing along the Mexican border. That's the type of wall they form. Jeeeesus...
Their impenetrability has kept the capable Miranda out of the first team. In 14 matches, the pair conceded just a dozen goals. Of course, Giorgio Chiellini and Leonardo Bonucci are the only partnership to better that.
Ronaldo currently leads the goal log with 10 but Mauro Icardi intends to reclaim his throne. The Argentine has two less at the moment. Serie A's reigning top scorer and player of the year, his superb understanding with the creative Ivan Perisic drives Inter up the table. Then again, the in-form Balde Keita could be the joker in Spalletti's deck.
In his last two starts, the former Barcelona prodigy produced three goals. Keita's made a mere five Serie A starts for Inter but leads them in shots and chances created. Combined with the clinical Icardi and unpredictable Perisic, the Old Lady will have their hands full. Football isn't played on paper.
JUVENTUS: SERIE A’S HARD-TO-WATCH, BORING, WINNING MACHINE
Date: 7th December 2018 at 12:01pm
Written by: Vito Doria
Dominance of a league can be admired and respected because a club has repeatedly achieved success but the lack of a rival to halt their triumphant run can make the competition boring to follow. Witnessing a team maintain such hegemony can be more intolerable if that squad is not exciting to watch.
Juventus have won every Serie A title since 2011/12 but they are not the most pleasing to watch for most neutrals. Their 3-0 victory away to Fiorentina last Saturday evening was their 13th from 14 Serie A matches in 2018/19 and it was another effortless performance from La Vecchia Signora. Do you think that the Bianconeri actually care if they provide a spectacle or not? Not the slightest.
Club legend Giampiero Boniperti said at the inauguration of the Juventus Stadium, “Winning isn’t important at Juventus, it’s the only thing that counts.” The current La Vecchia Signora side epitomises that to an extent but more than anything they do what is enough to win matches and they would prefer to focus on defending than attacking.
Italian teams are historically known for their pragmatic approach and emphasis on defending but most sides from the Italian peninsula predominantly focus on gaining maximum rewards with minimal effort. Like the slogan on the t-shirt worn by the obese man on the front cover of Fatboy Slim’s 1998 album ‘You’ve Come a Long Way, Baby’, “I’m #1 so why try harder?” (wtf?!?
)Juve don’t have to try harder in Serie A because their domestic dominance is secure for now. Perhaps it is a mentality that non-Italians or people who don’t follow Italian football don’t understand or want to accept. Italian tacticians often treat football matches like a game of chess and Bianconeri coach Massimiliano Allegri can wait for the opposition to make their moves.
How about the remainder of Serie A though? Are they doing enough to force Juventus out of their conservative shell?
Supporters of rival clubs often criticise Juve on social media for getting preferential treatment of referees and it is easy for Italians to highlight controversial moments in great detail. Not enough Italian teams have been able to pose a serious threat to Juventus’ hegemony of Italian football in this decade but very few are atoning for a lack of domestic success with good runs in Europe either.
Finances or lack of them don’t help either but different tactics could be implemented by other coaches. Although Maurizio Sarri did not coach Napoli to a Serie A title, his Partenopei team were a title rival for Juventus without resorting to defensive tactics or playing dour football. They were winning games with great attacking flair and swagger but they crumbled under the pressure and lacked the squad depth that La Vecchia Signora had. Juventus do possess great attacking weapons like Cristiano Ronaldo, Paulo Dybala, Mario Mandzukic, and Douglas Costa just to name a few and Allegri can coach proactive teams like he did at Cagliari from 2008 to 2010 but they won’t exert extra energy when it is unnecessary.
Italian teams and Juventus, in particular, should not be singled out though. How many teams in world football now or even in the past won by playing spectacular football? Not many. Pep Guardiola might have done it at Barcelona and Bayern Munich and he is doing it now at Manchester City but would anyone say the same about many other teams that dominate their domestic leagues? Probably not.
It would be preferable for Italian teams to utilise their attacking talents to the best of their abilities instead of trying to win matches and trophies in the most lackadaisical manner possible but Juventus are not going to play champagne football just for the sake of keeping the neutrals happy.
Unless the rest of Italy builds stronger squads or break the Bianconeri hegemony by playing with style, the Turin-based giants are going to remain dour to watch for quite some time.
Alternatively, if you want to follow Serie A and you want to be entertained, just don’t watch Juventus.
Are the Nerazzurri poised to upset the Old Lady?
By Toby Prince
On paper, Inter don't stand a chance. The Allianz Stadium is dread for any team. The Nerazzurri came away broken and battered after their last seven visits. It was difficult to score, let alone win. At the moment, Juventus’ confidence is at an all-time high. Never mind Cristiano Ronaldo, the rest of the squad is imperious. Then again...
Although 11 points adrift, a shocker could just be on the cards this Friday.
Considering the manner Napoli wrestled Juve last term, Massimiliano Allegri's Old Lady was expected to reach menopause this season.
The Southern club gave a good fight, but the ‘Sarri Ball’ altars dissented. A club record 91 points weren't enough. Although still a distance off, Inter and AS Roma showed incredible progress too, closing the gap on the Scudetto tyrants. Lazio and AC Milan made inroads as well. However, it’s been that same, boring script. Almost midway through the campaign, the Old Lady isn't showing her age. She has an eighth consecutive Scudetto in sight. The Bianconeri are unbeaten in 14 Serie A games, losing the maximum points just once against Genoa. Napoli tracks blindly, eight points behind.
Talk's begun about a potentially unbeaten campaign. As in 2012/13, the Turin warriors toss aside all supposed title rivals. Lazio and Napoli suffered 2-0 and 3-1 defeats respectively. While the pair could be pardoned for attempting a revolution on the road, AC Milan took huge blows in their own backyard. Their San Siro co-tenants are next in line.
Inter's a tough nut to crack, however. The Derby d'Italia is often unpredictable and tense. Similar to the Old Lady, the Nerazzurri, are running a fine streak. After a slow start, scratching five points from their opening four matches, Luciano Spalletti's men have reached for their ardour. Admittedly forced to share spoils with Roma, they’ve achieved impressive wins over Milan, Lazio and Genoa.
Spalletti's sturdy philosophy is paying off. Slowly but steadily, the bullet-headed Tuscan grinds out results. With the right blend of motivation and tactics, he's built a resolute defence while nurturing his prolific attackers. He could change the complexion of the Serie A if it all comes together tonight.
Spalleti isn't afraid to make adjustments. He switched to a 4-3-3 system against Roma but may revert to 4-2-3-1 to curtail Juve's deadly trio led by Ronaldo.
With Stefan de Vrij and Milan Skriniar anchoring the back, there isn't much to fret. It's said Donald Trump has contacted the pair about standing along the Mexican border. That's the type of wall they form.
Jeeeesus... Their impenetrability has kept the capable Miranda out of the first team. In 14 matches, the pair conceded just a dozen goals. Of course, Giorgio Chiellini and Leonardo Bonucci are the only partnership to better that.
Ronaldo currently leads the goal log with 10 but Mauro Icardi intends to reclaim his throne. The Argentine has two less at the moment. Serie A's reigning top scorer and player of the year, his superb understanding with the creative Ivan Perisic drives Inter up the table. Then again, the in-form Balde Keita could be the joker in Spalletti's deck.
In his last two starts, the former Barcelona prodigy produced three goals. Keita's made a mere five Serie A starts for Inter but leads them in shots and chances created. Combined with the clinical Icardi and unpredictable Perisic, the Old Lady will have their hands full. Football isn't played on paper.
